*New* 1GB 8800GT is Coming

I've never heard of a Palit brand card. Do they make quality products?
 
Yeah id say as long as you could get the 1GB models for the same price, it wouldnt be worth it. 512mb of memory is just barely being utilized in games really. It does help some over 256mb with the bigger texture games but.... 1GB is just not worth it unless its close to the same price. I wouldnt bother "stepping up" to that crap over a 512mb.
 
Retsam said:
Yeah id say as long as you could get the 1GB models for the same price, it wouldnt be worth it. 512mb of memory is just barely being utilized in games really. It does help some over 256mb with the bigger texture games but.... 1GB is just not worth it unless its close to the same price. I wouldnt bother "stepping up" to that crap over a 512mb.
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Here's my problem- I just ordered a 512mb EVGA 8800GT from Newegg for $265 which just shipped. Should I refuse shipment and get the Palit 1GB one instead (it's $300 total, including shipping) or should I just accept the EVGA 512Mb and hope that the new Geforce card comes out before my step-up period expires Mar 14th?
 
I wouldnt know what to tell you there. I suppose its not much of a price difference. However, who the hell is Palit.....I always stick with EVGA/XFX/BFG. Not sure id take a chance with an unknown company. I know I sure dont.

Id think by march evga would have a 1GB out. I dont really think its worth the 1gb anyways. 512MB is plenty of memory.
 
Retsam said:
I wouldnt know what to tell you there. I suppose its not much of a price difference. However, who the hell is Palit.....I always stick with EVGA/XFX/BFG. Not sure id take a chance with an unknown company. I know I sure dont.

Id think by march evga would have a 1GB out. I dont really think its worth the 1gb anyways. 512MB is plenty of memory.
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You got me curious when you said "who the hell is Palit"? I've heard previously they make a decent product and primarily deal with the european market. After looking, it turns out that Palit manufactures under a lot of different brand names including Gainward believe it or not. I'll be damned. See quote and link.....

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/palit-gf7600gt-voltmodding.html

Palit, Yuan, Daytona, XpertVision, Gainward… I’m not sure if this list is complete. What does it mean? I guess experienced users who are interested in PC hardware should know that Palit Corporation is today a major graphics card manufacturer and owns all those trademarks. There’s no unanimous opinion about one company having so many brands. On one hand, the user is offered a larger choice, especially since Palit has always offered an appealing price/performance ratio (note that I don’t mention quality here). On the other hand, a carefree user may be enticed into buying a cut-down version of some full-featured model. Such a version may have slower memory, a narrower bus, a simplified PCB, fewer graphics pipelines, etc.
 
If I understand this correctly, the best application for this would be in SLI, as when you SLI two 512mb cards, you increase the processing power, but the RAM stays 512mb. Maybe with a single 8800GT 1gb is excessive, but with 2 the extra RAM may actually benefit. Admittedly, I know jack all about the inner workings of SLI, but would I be wrong to believe this?
 
Pyroja said:
If I understand this correctly, the best application for this would be in SLI, as when you SLI two 512mb cards, you increase the processing power, but the RAM stays 512mb. Maybe with a single 8800GT 1gb is excessive, but with 2 the extra RAM may actually benefit. Admittedly, I know jack all about the inner workings of SLI, but would I be wrong to believe this?
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All of the frames processed in an SLI system are duplicated in the frame buffers of each card. Because of this the amount of actual usable memory is only equal to that of one card. The reason why a 1024MB card might be helpful at present has more to do with the card handling larger higher resolution textures than anything.

The larger frame buffer is largely the reason why the 8800GTX and Ultra are still king at high resolutions. There is no doubt in my mind that a G92 8800GTS with 768MB or 1024MB of RAM wouldn't dominate every other card on the market today.
 
I was really wanting them to launch the 1gig version from the start of the G92 GT. While my GT SSC out performs my old GTX (barely) with some benchmarks, I get much more studdering in games than I did with the GTX, the GT also runs the "humanhead" nvidia demo like malassis compared to the GTX. I attribute these issues to it's reduced memory.

I have a real sweet SSC though (run at 2060 core 2080 mem in crysis never problems/glitches) so I may hold off on the tempting step-up.
 
honestjohn said:
You got me curious when you said "who the hell is Palit"? I've heard previously they make a decent product and primarily deal with the european market. After looking, it turns out that Palit manufactures under a lot of different brand names including Gainward believe it or not. I'll be damned. See quote and link.....

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/palit-gf7600gt-voltmodding.html

Palit, Yuan, Daytona, XpertVision, Gainward… I’m not sure if this list is complete. What does it mean? I guess experienced users who are interested in PC hardware should know that Palit Corporation is today a major graphics card manufacturer and owns all those trademarks. There’s no unanimous opinion about one company having so many brands. On one hand, the user is offered a larger choice, especially since Palit has always offered an appealing price/performance ratio (note that I don’t mention quality here). On the other hand, a carefree user may be enticed into buying a cut-down version of some full-featured model. Such a version may have slower memory, a narrower bus, a simplified PCB, fewer graphics pipelines, etc.
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Thanks after I had to RMA my Gainward 4600+ GF4 5 times I will never buy another product from them. By the time I got a workign card (which is still running) the card had dropped $200 in price. Of course I got to use it some in between failures (memory going bad or artifacting etc) but none the less there was alot of going weeks with no card. They had the only GF4 with dual DVI's at the time.
 
Just stay with the step-up d9e will be out in time for your step up period hopfully... im waiting atm for the holiday season to end price will only drop from here.

Wag said:
Here's my problem- I just ordered a 512mb EVGA 8800GT from Newegg for $265 which just shipped. Should I refuse shipment and get the Palit 1GB one instead (it's $300 total, including shipping) or should I just accept the EVGA 512Mb and hope that the new Geforce card comes out before my step-up period expires Mar 14th?
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Code name for the next Nivida Top of the Line Flag ship as ive heard is D9E and is schduled for a Febuary Delievery.
 
Can anyone tell me why (apart from monetary reasons) they don't simply make the 8800GT 512 or any of the new cards have a "wider"/"higher" bit memory bus? I don't know enough about how cards are physically created to ask this in a better way, but what stops them from releasing an 8800GT with a 512-bit memory bus bus instead of a 256-bit one? The GTX has a 384-bit memory bus and logically that's the only thing that keeps it faster than the GTS and GT 512 cards. It improves the memory bandwidth (link) even though the clock speeds and number of shader processors are the same or lower than on the new cards.

What stops NVIDIA from using a 384-bit+ memory bus with these cards? Wouldn't that be the simplest way to get faster high-end cards?
 
Big D. said:
Can anyone tell me why (apart from monetary reasons) they don't simply make the 8800GT 512 or any of the new cards have a "wider"/"higher" bit memory bus? I don't know enough about how cards are physically created to ask this in a better way, but what stops them from releasing an 8800GT with a 512-bit memory bus bus instead of a 256-bit one? The GTX has a 384-bit memory bus and logically that's the only thing that keeps it faster than the GTS and GT 512 cards. It improves the memory bandwidth (link) even though the clock speeds and number of shader processors are the same or lower than on the new cards.

What stops NVIDIA from using a 384-bit+ memory bus with these cards? Wouldn't that be the simplest way to get faster high-end cards?
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this card was made to be a price/performance part and to also compete with the 256-bit 3850/3870 cards from ATI.
 
Big D. said:
Can anyone tell me why (apart from monetary reasons) they don't simply make the 8800GT 512 or any of the new cards have a "wider"/"higher" bit memory bus? I don't know enough about how cards are physically created to ask this in a better way, but what stops them from releasing an 8800GT with a 512-bit memory bus bus instead of a 256-bit one? The GTX has a 384-bit memory bus and logically that's the only thing that keeps it faster than the GTS and GT 512 cards. It improves the memory bandwidth (link) even though the clock speeds and number of shader processors are the same or lower than on the new cards.

What stops NVIDIA from using a 384-bit+ memory bus with these cards? Wouldn't that be the simplest way to get faster high-end cards?
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Because they may not even be possible with lower die size SKU's like the G92 or RV670. The larger a memory interface the more room a GPU will need to route all the traces to the back of the GPU.
 
Earlier someone stated that SLI would not help because they would still bound by the 256-bit bus.

That can't be right though. I realize that SLI isn't perfect, but surely two of these 1GB cards in SLI would have enough pixel pushing power to be useful. Even if it only amounted to 1.5 GTs with a GB of ram in SLI, it just seems like you could really push the resolutions.
 
I can't wait for the flood of posts from l33t gam3rz crying about their RAM disappearing as the card appropriates the upper bounds of the address space.
 
Will a game like crysis even take advantage of 1gb of memory even at high resolutions like 1900 ?
 
Mortuus said:
Will a game like crysis even take advantage of 1gb of memory even at high resolutions like 1900 ?
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youre like the 100th person to say that. In Crysis the 8800gt runs out of steam long before it would be capable of running high settings or any AA at 1920.
 
MarcusFoX said:
Code name for the next Nivida Top of the Line Flag ship as ive heard is D9E and is schduled for a Febuary Delievery.
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that's pretty powerful way to state something that is barely even a rummor. nothing is scheduled nothing is confirmed by nvidia and there aren't any traces of engineering samples out there. the latest on the D9E aka G100aka 9800 is for a "March Release", this from rummorville (fudzilla)
source: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4763&Itemid=34
 
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