Gigabyte P965-P35 X38 overclocking and BIOS tweaking Guide

Firstly Thanks for this great guide! One of the best ive seen on the web :)

Overcloking is something that untill about a week ago never really interested me, to be honest ive never really needed to overclock....then Crysis was released :rolleyes:

This game will in the end drive me insane, a few days ago I OC'd my 8800GTS to 600/1389/1003 and was finally able to play with a decent frame rate....or so i thought, seems it wasnt quite enough in large gunfights or anything making intense use of the physics engine so as stubern as I am, I decided it was time to push things more.

my system: 965P-DS3 - E6600 - 4x1GB OCZGold Dual channel - 8800GTS 640Mb - 74 GB 10000 RPM WD Raptor (system drive) - Audigy 2ZS - Vista Ultimate 32bit.

I've spent the last two days reading this Thread when I've had time, and tonight I decided to go for it. After much thinking of a good starting point I decided to go with the following...


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio (Note)____________ [8]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [102]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.0]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 800
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
CAS Latency Time_____________ 5 ____ [5]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay______ 5 ____ [5]
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_____5 ____ [5]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)________15 ____[15]
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_______4 _____[auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay______3 _____[auto]
Write to Precharge Delay______6 _____[auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay________42 ______[0]
Read to Precharge Delay_______4 _____[auto]
Memory Performance Enhance__________ [Normal]
High Speed DRAM DLL Settings________ [Option 1]
******** System Voltage NOT Optimized ******** <<---IGNORE This.
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.375]



I'm now Running at 3200Mhz (8x400) With what seems like no issues, was the first ry as well which amuses me, beginners luck I guess Temps are warm under Load (58) but I'm looking at upgrading cooling as soon as I've finished this post.

all in all I'm fairly happy, orthos has been running for just over 1,5 hours now, and I got 2 hours out of crysis earlier but then I crashed, although that means nothing as its was crashing occaisionally before the OC as well.

Should I try to tweek the ram more? I have no need really and at the moment things "seem" stable.


also why do some apps show my fsb as 450x8 and the cpu at 3600Mhz :confused:

http://avatar-its.de/screen_oc.jpg
 
I used this guide to tweak up my motherboard. Before the OC, I ran the stress test on stock speeds with fan running 100% and found that my cpu was hitting up to 63C. My cpu has the stock fan and heatsink along with 5 case fans.

At first I tried 4.0Ghz (10 x 400) and 3.6Ghz (9 x 400). Neither was stable (methinks it got too hot). Next 3.4Ghz (10 x 340) worked and proved stable. I'll probably try to get it higher later on . My cpu DOES have an unlocked multiplier. :D


cpuz page:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=270699
 
perry753 said:
I used this guide to tweak up my motherboard. Before the OC, I ran the stress test on stock speeds with fan running 100% and found that my cpu was hitting up to 63C. My cpu has the stock fan and heatsink along with 5 case fans.

At first I tried 4.0Ghz (10 x 400) and 3.6Ghz (9 x 400). Neither was stable (methinks it got too hot). Next 3.4Ghz (10 x 340) worked and proved stable. I'll probably try to get it higher later on . My cpu DOES have an unlocked multiplier. :D


cpuz page:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=270699
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If you run something like 8 x 425 for 3.4GHz you wil maximize your memory bandwidth. (run your memory near, or in this case slightly above its rated speed at 850Mhz ). You will need the 2.0 mulitplier and have your memory voltage set to overclocking values. You might have to loosen memory timings but maybe not. It is worth trying I am not sure of the mulitpliers availibe if there is one that runs your memory close to 800MHz you are good as is.

With stock cooling that is excellent.

Yep you are severly underclocking your ram.

RAM Size : 2048 MB
RAM Freq : 340 MHz
RAM Type : DDR2-SDRAM Dual Channel
RAM Ratio : 1:1
RAM Timings : 5-5-5-13

Your ram is running at 680MHz way under its spec. use a slightly higher mulitplier if possbile and do not worry if you have to go to 5 5 5 15 your increase in memory speed will more than make up the difference. that 5 5 5 13 is fairly strange, you sure that is correct settings for your ram ?
 
cytech said:
Firstly Thanks for this great guide! One of the best ive seen on the web :)

Overcloking is something that untill about a week ago never really interested me, to be honest ive never really needed to overclock....then Crysis was released :rolleyes:

This game will in the end drive me insane, a few days ago I OC'd my 8800GTS to 600/1389/1003 and was finally able to play with a decent frame rate....or so i thought, seems it wasnt quite enough in large gunfights or anything making intense use of the physics engine so as stubern as I am, I decided it was time to push things more.

my system: 965P-DS3 - E6600 - 4x1GB OCZGold Dual channel - 8800GTS 640Mb - 74 GB 10000 RPM WD Raptor (system drive) - Audigy 2ZS - Vista Ultimate 32bit.

I've spent the last two days reading this Thread when I've had time, and tonight I decided to go for it. After much thinking of a good starting point I decided to go with the following...


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio (Note)____________ [8]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [102]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.0]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 800
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
CAS Latency Time_____________ 5 ____ [5]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay______ 5 ____ [5]
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_____5 ____ [5]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)________15 ____[15]
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_______4 _____[auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay______3 _____[auto]
Write to Precharge Delay______6 _____[auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay________42 ______[0]
Read to Precharge Delay_______4 _____[auto]
Memory Performance Enhance__________ [Normal]
High Speed DRAM DLL Settings________ [Option 1]
******** System Voltage NOT Optimized ******** <<---IGNORE This.
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.375]



I'm now Running at 3200Mhz (8x400) With what seems like no issues, was the first ry as well which amuses me, beginners luck I guess Temps are warm under Load (58) but I'm looking at upgrading cooling as soon as I've finished this post.

all in all I'm fairly happy, orthos has been running for just over 1,5 hours now, and I got 2 hours out of crysis earlier but then I crashed, although that means nothing as its was crashing occaisionally before the OC as well.

Should I try to tweek the ram more? I have no need really and at the moment things "seem" stable.


also why do some apps show my fsb as 450x8 and the cpu at 3600Mhz :confused:

http://avatar-its.de/screen_oc.jpg
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That is excellent results and you did exactly the right thing.

For just a little more , try this:

Memory Performance Enhance__________ [FAST]

Good stuff with the 4 x 1GB my board will not even run stock with 4 sticks. Frankly if it is stable and your ram is not rated for 4 4 4 12 I would leave it alone. You have hit the sweet spot, nothing stressed to much, play with the ram some if you want but you are not going to see any great increases in performance, you have got 90% of the hidden performance with minimal effort and no headaches, the next 10% will drive you nuts. Enjoy your game for a while, mess with it if you feel like it but you are golden. I would find it hard to resist trying 405 and maybe 410, but I am insane.

LOL no clue why coretemp is incorrect. Over the last several versions it has frequently gotten things like that incorrect. The temps are all that is important, and they look good, I would not worry about it.
 
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well sofar do good, its still running stable!

I'm very tempted to got further but I need cooling suggestions first.

I would like if possble to water cool the CPU/GPU and NB/other parts of board.

I have 4 HDD's in this rig all of which run at arround 50 degrees, and now since the overclock the case ambiant temp has risen to arround 55degrees which is a little worrying.

I saw on one of your pictures bill that you have two radiators for your water cooling? I'm guessing one is on the GPU one on the CPU? If i was to run two rads what would be the most sensible thing to do, put one on the CPU/NB and one on the GPU? or the otherway arround? Note: my GPU with the Stock heatink/fans runs at 85degrees underload (before overclocking it it did run much cooler...approx 80)


Also I remember reading somewhere in this Thread you play DAoC?

this also also one of the games I play more than anything else and i was wondering if you have any other tipps for performance.....I get an average of 25fps when in the labyrinth :confused:(Crysis now runs at 50fps) :confused: an between 50-80 everywhere else:confused:

if you dont want to hijack the thread with daoc please PM me and we can maybe talk per IM/Email?
 
cytech said:
slightly off topic:

well sofar do good, its still running stable!

I'm very tempted to got further but I need cooling suggestions first.

I would like if possble to water cool the CPU/GPU and NB/other parts of board.

I have 4 HDD's in this rig all of which run at around 50 degrees, and now since the overclock the case ambient temp has risen to around 55degrees which is a little worrying.

I saw on one of your pictures bill that you have two radiators for your water cooling? I'm guessing one is on the GPU one on the CPU? If i was to run two rads what would be the most sensible thing to do, put one on the CPU/NB and one on the GPU? or the otherway arround? Note: my GPU with the Stock heatink/fans runs at 85degrees underload (before overclocking it it did run much cooler...approx 80)


Also I remember reading somewhere in this Thread you play DAoC?

this also also one of the games I play more than anything else and i was wondering if you have any other tipps for performance.....I get an average of 25fps when in the labyrinth :confused:(Crysis now runs at 50fps) :confused: an between 50-80 everywhere else:confused:

if you don't want to hijack the thread with daoc please PM me and we can maybe talk per IM/Email?
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LOL I don't care. I had to turn PM off, otherwise all I did was PM and despite putting foot in mouth occasionally I like to think I am helping more than one person at a time.

When I built this computer (now a bit over a year old) I was in a hurry because my trusty old water cooled Abit NF7-s was not cutting it too well in Dark Age of Camelot and I had finally got to the point I wanted a bot account which was perfect for the old machine if I build a new one. Point is I was in a hurry. The water cooling setup you see is a Thermaltake Bigwater 745 kit. It is the ONLY Tt watecooling product I would even think of buying. However this ONE kit/product IMO is a very good buy at $150ish. As you noticed 2 rads, decent pump/res everything you need. The only down side is the mounting of the water block and that was fairly easy to take care of with some hardware (Danger Den sells the Maze 4 hold down hardware for $6 that will solve the issue). It is all one loop. One loop is best in 99% of the cases as it avoids two pumps. Putting 2 loops in parallel is seldom effective either. Water is such a good conductor of heat both loops quickly become the same temp do to mixing at the common point either the res or the pump. If I had not already blown a pile of cash on New everything (well the case was a freebie and I had a spare monitor) I probably would have gone with a more conventional setup single higher quality 2 x 120 rad, DCC/Lang pump, someones water block etc. but that runs $200 plus. These Tt rads are smallish (not thick) and are not the flat tube design more commonly used but are instead round tube type. This is OK because the Tt block is a full flow block. Most modern ones are restrictive as they use nozzles or small channels to speed up the water hitting the "hot spot" in the block and so need strong expensive pumps that can easily push the water through the block and the rad. The Tt pump is not nearly as strong but has high flow as the non-restrictive block (big water channels) and tube rads do not require a strong pump. Both design types can work well, the key is to match up the components from a total system standpoint. Gah, carried away again. My point is that CPUs and just recently video cards are getting more powerful without generating as much heat as they used to. A C2D overclocked to the hilt probably will put out about the same or less heat than a P4 at 3 GHz so a good quality dual rad should cool any decent system, If you were running two of the older 8800 or 2900 power sucking video monsters I would consider more than a 2 x 120 rad. otherwise unless you are going for near ambient idle temps (and some do for bragging rights) you don't need all that stuff to support a killer OC on water.

A big key even if you water cool is good case airflow, if you remove the fan from the CPU area the voltage regulation circuity can get too hot. While water-cooling is my primary cooling (with my DQ6 I could not remove the MCH/northbridge heatpipe assembly without having to come up with custom cooling for the MosFETS of the CPU voltage regulator as it is all a one piece assembly. So I have just a small fan on the NB, and stuck additional small fans on the radiator fins of the heatpipe. With a DS3 watercooling the NB would be an excellent idea and highly recommended but you must have airflow on the components around the CPU socket. What is not obvious is that I have 2 80mm fans in front 2 80mm in the rear, one 80mm in the top all running on a fan controller to make sure internal case temps stay low. I think getting most of the heat out of the case with water cooling will solve a lot of your temp concerns. One thing I like is that once you get the stuff at worst you will need a new block hold down to accommodate a new CPU and the setup will be effective and last for year and years and years.

OMG those are horrible frame rates. I am mana eldy (Adrie on Tristan) and only when we get in a tower defense with a bunch of people and I forget to turn spell effects to group only do my rates get that low (25FPS) running in lab I get 80ish, standing around doing nothing over 100. ahhhh wait a minute, LOL I play on a 19"CRT at 1024 x 768 from your link it looks like you have a nice big LCD. The higher resolution is what is killing your frame rates probably although I am surprised you do better in Crysis than DAoC. All I can suggest is the standard stuff I bet you have already done, Turn Vsynch off in video card settings, set DAoC options to "performance", and using the ingame options to set you "terrain" clip distance to medium.

Frankly after the last big patch, my OCed X1900GT is not making me happy even at the fairly low resolution I am playing. So I have managed to piss off about half the people in the Nvidia and Ati video sub forums while I investigate the new cards just out. Looks like an 8800GT (really nice cause my water block will fit right on) for instant gratification and to be ready for warhammer.

Damn I ramble on. Not much hardware news today. :(

What video card are you using and what resolution do you play at ?
Doh!!!! 8800GTS 640Mb

Its gotta be that you are playing at some really nice (God I bet it looks glorious) high resolution. All you can do is try to reduce the number of pixels you are pushing and that is a bad compromise. Hopefully the new high end cards will help you out. I think I should maybe rethink my video situation. I prefer CRT's but I would love a wide screen LCD and they are getting damn good finally. I think I have been underestimating the power needed to play DAoC at higher resolutions because my older not so powerful card has only had to push, compared to what I think you are running, a lower resolution.

The only other thing I can think of is, if you use sysinfo and look at the IRQ (interrupt) allocation, I am pretty sure you will find that the on-board NIC is sharing the same IRQ as the PCI-e video. This is not the brightest configuration for a online game as the network adapter is competing for CPU attention along with the video card. I have been looking for a nice $40 3com stand alone network card that I can set the IRQ to something else and even offload some of the network packet handling. The $15 ones do not do that. Still looking, found an $80 buck Intel card but thats a bit high. Anyway, about all I can think of ATM for DAoC. INC ! j/k . :D

PS did the machine run OK on Memory Performance Enhance set to "FAST" ? (with 4 gigs it is iffy but worth a shot)
 
I run my desktop at 1680x1050 on a 22" TFT, although I prefer the picture of CRT's buying a CRT in this size was just not an option :(

I Play DAoC in 1440x900 in windowed mode, maybe thats the problem. I've not run daoc full screen for....i cant remember when I last run full screen lol 3-4 years ago maybe.


its not just crysis, I get massive frame rates from TF2, or anything on the Source Engine. most newer games run absolutly fine as well :s just DAoC

something ive just thought of is my daoc install is probably about 4 years old, its been copied form HDD to HDD every time as I never could be bothered to reinstall, maybe my gamefiles are just corrupt.


Ive not done the memory enhance let, ill give it a try in a bit and let you know.


&#8364;dit:
Changed the memory to fast and it seems fine, I'll run a stress test tonight.

as for the IRQ's yes they are both 16 :(
 
cytech said:
I run my desktop at 1680x1050 on a 22" TFT, although I prefer the picture of CRT's buying a CRT in this size was just not an option :(

I Play DAoC in 1440x900 in windowed mode, maybe thats the problem. I've not run daoc full screen for....i cant remember when I last run full screen lol 3-4 years ago maybe.


its not just crysis, I get massive frame rates from TF2, or anything on the Source Engine. most newer games run absolutly fine as well :s just DAoC

something ive just thought of is my daoc install is probably about 4 years old, its been copied form HDD to HDD every time as I never could be bothered to reinstall, maybe my gamefiles are just corrupt.


Ive not done the memory enhance let, ill give it a try in a bit and let you know.


&#8364;dit:
Changed the memory to fast and it seems fine, I'll run a stress test tonight.

as for the IRQ's yes they are both 16 :(
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Lag caster heh ? No more help for youse !!! j/k !

Probally the high resolution but as I have no experience at anything over 1024 x 768 its hard to say, seems odd other what I would think are more demanding games do better. I doubt its your game files, but at game start hit that check box to "check all files" couldnt hurt and only take a minute or two. I always keep my game directory defraged after every patch, it wont help frame rates but I zone a lot faster. I will think about it, it really seems weird, no clue at the moment. Hmmm set the video drivers to let the game determine what levels of AA etc. to set and see if that makes a difference, in other words do not force AA or AF on, you might want to make a game profile just for DAOC if you can (I am runnng an ATI atm so not up on Nvidia control panel options. )
 
Completely Off-Topic...

Bill Parrish,

I tried to PM you but of course due to your popularity, you turned it off. ;) Just a question - why did you do this guide? You seem to have spent a lot of time on this that you should be getting paid. But you aren't, right? Right?!

Besides, I'm curious about your background - you're married, obviously. Where do you work at? Are you an author? Did you graduate from MIT or something? All the most heartfelt thanks. ;)

Curiously,
Jeff
 
GeForceX said:
Completely Off-Topic...

Bill Parrish,

I tried to PM you but of course due to your popularity, you turned it off. ;) Just a question - why did you do this guide? You seem to have spent a lot of time on this that you should be getting paid. But you aren't, right? Right?!

Besides, I'm curious about your background - you're married, obviously. Where do you work at? Are you an author? Did you graduate from MIT or something? All the most heartfelt thanks. ;)

Curiously,
Jeff
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My job went to India after 20+ years and didnt even send me a tee shirt. No but as an design engineer and then IT/networking guy for a big telecom company I had to get at least fair at writing technical stuff, did a lot of procedures and specifications for the equipment I designed. Never got above Senior Engineer/Senior Systems Analyst because of lack of cunning and Boy Scout ethics. Decent Engineering University on East Coast with a BSEE, nothing that cool. (dont want to say cause this is my real name and I guess someone could actually track me down - I own guns btw) Wife when to Heaven and forgot to run the dishwasher first. So semi-retired, build custom systems for a few select customers for distraction and addicted to DAoC as an escape from reality Terminally depressed with too much time on my hands. Like helping other people as it is easier than helping myself. /yawn. Other people have it far worse. Got hooked on computers when my dad brought home a Commodore Vic 20. Well guess I dont have to do that myspace page now.
 
Finally got my E6420 (L709) up to 3.41 Ghz yesterday @ only 1.45 V! Orthos stable at 4 hours+ ....

Added a fan to the northbridge heatsink after struggling to hit 3.3 from 3.2 and ended up hitting 3.4 without a problem! Fan's quiet enough that's drowned out by the Yate Loon 120mm cooling my Scythe Ninja, as well. :D

Have been following this guide since May, would like to thank Bill for all his help and informative posts - not just here, but across the forums. He's one of the few guys that puts the time in to give you an informative and lengthy response and really seems dedicated to improving the [H] community.


Thanks again, Bill!
 
First i dont know how to thank u.i was going for a cheap mobo but after reading ur post i decided to go for either GA-P35-DQ6 or GAX-38-DQ6.IT may sound silly i gonna get e2160 overclock it to atleast 3.0ghz wait 3-4months for the new processors frm intel.will e2160 overclock this well on this mobos:confused:.for cooling i will get thermalight ultra 120 extreme.also i have 800 MHZ value RAM frtom kingston will this be enough
I am a noob when its come to overclocking but after reading your guide i feel very confident on doing oc:).This is the best thread on the net:D. awaiting your reply .
thanks.
 
BillParrish said:
Thats kinda what I was trying to say with 2 sticks, I can run 475 FSB 24x7 but put in 4 sticks and it all goes to hell in a hurry. I too noticed with 4 sticks the memory got very toasty, did not pass my "can you keep your finger on it for a count to 5 test" and so I made a little barcket out of plastic to hold 2x40mm fans just above the memory, cooled them right off but did nothing for stability. It seem apparent from old posts these version 1.0 boards where never tuned to run with 4 sticks but instead were optimized for 2 sticks. I am talking to Gigabyte support now, if I find anything out I will post. I am assuming you have some kind of cooling on the MCH/northbridge heatsink and taking it off and replacing the factory "goop" with decent thermal paste works wonders sometimes.
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Any responses on v1.0 and 4GB of RAM?

I am starting to have reboots/BSODs twice daily within Vista HP x64. I'm wondering if I should pull the second 2GB of RAM or install XP on another disk...

Btw to address your question, no I have no special cooling on the northbridge.

What's strange is that the system seems completely stable during Crysis or UT3. Sometimes I get a reboot upon exit from a game or when sitting at the desktop and a scheduled recording fires up (2 ATI TV tuners are installed).

There are so many variables here at play...
 
sarban-oxley said:
First i dont know how to thank u.i was going for a cheap mobo but after reading ur post i decided to go for either GA-P35-DQ6 or GAX-38-DQ6.IT may sound silly i gonna get e2160 overclock it to atleast 3.0ghz wait 3-4months for the new processors frm intel.will e2160 overclock this well on this mobos:confused:.for cooling i will get thermalight ultra 120 extreme.also i have 800 MHZ value RAM frtom kingston will this be enough
I am a noob when its come to overclocking but after reading your guide i feel very confident on doing oc:).This is the best thread on the net:D. awaiting your reply .
thanks.
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Nope good stragety, one day a Q6600 will go in my DQ6, maybe, damn el-cheapo cpu does everything I want and I am too cheap to just buy one for the heck of it.

Not too impressed with the x38, too much money but it has replaced the P35-DQ6 so the P35 might be hard to find but you might find a deal on one.

yep with a 9x multi you will be fine and the ram will be ok too, you should be able to go as high as the cpu can stand. (in theory you could do 400FSB x cpu multi of 9 for 3.6GHz and with a memory multiplier of 2.0 your memory would not even be overclocked.) You will not make 3.6 but that memory will not hold you back.

Give us a shout here if you run into trouble.
 
dook43 said:
Any responses on v1.0 and 4GB of RAM?

I am starting to have reboots/BSODs twice daily within Vista HP x64. I'm wondering if I should pull the second 2GB of RAM or install XP on another disk...

Btw to address your question, no I have no special cooling on the northbridge.

What's strange is that the system seems completely stable during Crysis or UT3. Sometimes I get a reboot upon exit from a game or when sitting at the desktop and a scheduled recording fires up (2 ATI TV tuners are installed).

There are so many variables here at play...
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I gave up on my machine, I tired everything I could think of and could not get it stable. Gigabyte was no help and then I found where the version 3.0 boards had the memory traces redone to improve operation with 4 sticks so I knew I would never get a decent OC on my DQ6 with 4 sticks. Maybe I threw in the towel too eary but I just could not figure it out.

Wow 2 tv tuners.

It almost sounds more like a software issue. Frankly that is such a different setup from the flat out gamer machines I build that I just dont know enough to say. I put an ATI all in wonder X1900 in my brothers machine and we are both still trying to figure out how to get all the stuff to work.

A small fan glued to the NB is really recommended. Solves all kinds of ills and it cannot hurt. Dont think it will help your issue if you are game stable but it is such an easy and cheap thing to do.
 
BillParrish said:
I gave up on my machine, I tired everything I could think of and could not get it stable. Gigabyte was no help and then I found where the version 3.0 boards had the memory traces redone to improve operation with 4 sticks so I knew I would never get a decent OC on my DQ6 with 4 sticks. Maybe I threw in the towel too eary but I just could not figure it out.

Wow 2 tv tuners.

It almost sounds more like a software issue. Frankly that is such a different setup from the flat out gamer machines I build that I just dont know enough to say. I put an ATI all in wonder X1900 in my brothers machine and we are both still trying to figure out how to get all the stuff to work.

A small fan glued to the NB is really recommended. Solves all kinds of ills and it cannot hurt. Dont think it will help your issue if you are game stable but it is such an easy and cheap thing to do.
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I've installed XP x64 last night. I will be throwing BeyondTV on there pretty soon ( wish I hadnt sold my license on here... )

One thing I noticed is that in Vista, my hard disks were powering down and back up all of the time, simply while sitting at the desktop. Not so under XP.

A frequent source of crashes was invoking UAC while multimedia (WMC) was playing or recording. It might very well be a software/driver issue.
 
Just had to chime in here. My board has been running super since a year ago when I first read up on overclocking this baby here! Stable like a brick once I got my cpu overclock figured out.

Currently I just went from my old E6400 @3.2ghz, to an E6750 @3.2ghz, I am limited now by my ram since it really does not like running over spec speeds very much, and there are no more dividers to drop ram speed gain.....
 
Hey guys, I used this guide when it first came out and I've been running an e6400@3ghz for about 9 months I guess without a problem. Anyway I just got some more ram recently, so now I'm using 4 1gig sticks. Now I'm having a problem and just wanted to see if anyone has similar issues and from what I've read so far a few of you do and want to know if there might be a fix or work around.

Here's the deal, I use a dual boot system with Vista32& XP Pro and they both work fine and are stable with the 4 sticks. I went to install Vista64 in place of Vista32 after I got the new ram and started getting this random BSOD Stop c0000218[Registry File Failure] error on reboots in Visat64. It got to the point that I just reinstalled Vista32 after not being able to get into Vista64 anymore, because of this error. I did not have a single problem booting to XP Pro during this time and have had no problem at all since I went back to Vista32. I did run memtest over a span of 2 nights when I got the ram and all was fine. I also reinstalled Vista64 once and got the same problem.

Specs
DS3 r3.3
2 1gig sticks of Gskill DDR800
2 1gig sticks of Super Talent DDR800 running at 752Mhz
e6400@3ghz
FSB@376
X1900XT
Vista is installed on 2 Hitachi 320gb T7K500 SATA2 Hard drives in Raid 0
XP is installed on a 250gb WD Caviar IDE drive
 
getting this random BSOD Stop c0000218[Registry File Failure] error on reboots in Visat64
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I do not recall seeing that issue before. It sounds more like a software problem. I did notice the only real difference was Vista is being installed on the raid 0. That should not matter but perhaps it is worth a try to break the raid into single disks and try installing Vista on just one drive. At least you could eliminate that as the source of the issue or confirm that there is something about the raid vista is having an issue with.
 
I did think about putting Vista64 on another drive that I have in a non raid configuration. So I'll try that at some point. I just wanted to be able to utilize all of my memory, but Vista32 is running great on my Raid0 without any issues.
 
I think it might be time to get a new board. What $150 P35 board will support Yorkfield quads?
 
From what I have read that chip will be supported by the P965 DS3 board with a BIOS update, so I don't agree with that assessment. I'm hoping at this point that the problem is addressed with Vista service pack1, but that just wishful thinking on my part.
 
GwarGor said:
From what I have read that chip will be supported by the P965 DS3 board with a BIOS update, so I don't agree with that assessment. I'm hoping at this point that the problem is addressed with Vista service pack1, but that just wishful thinking on my part.
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Considering the issues I'm having with 4GB of RAM, I'm thinking it's time to upgrade.
 
dook43 said:
Considering the issues I'm having with 4GB of RAM, I'm thinking it's time to upgrade.
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With your video requirements (couple of TV tuner cards) and ram I honestly am afraid to recommend anything because I have no first hand experience with multiple TV tuner cards. I would be checking out some of the computer audio/video tech forums to find someone using a board in a similar configuration.
 
dook43 said:
Considering the issues I'm having with 4GB of RAM, I'm thinking it's time to upgrade.
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Your situation and mine are quite different, I only have a problem with Vista64 and since I don't have any issues at all with 4GB of ram and XP Pro or Vista32 and my system is running great ATM, I have plenty of time to wait for a fix for my issue.
 
BillParrish said:
With your video requirements (couple of TV tuner cards) and ram I honestly am afraid to recommend anything because I have no first hand experience with multiple TV tuner cards. I would be checking out some of the computer audio/video tech forums to find someone using a board in a similar configuration.
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I'm in contact with the OCZ support technicians at this time. They wanted me to give the MCH +0.2v (I'ts been at only +0.1 for a while now).

THey also give out custom SPD's to flash the sticks with. Interesting...
 
GwarGor said:
Your situation and mine are quite different, I only have a problem with Vista64 and since I don't have any issues at all with 4GB of ram and XP Pro or Vista32 and my system is running great ATM, I have plenty of time to wait for a fix for my issue.
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hmm I was thinking of adding 2gb more of ram to my setup (see siggy) and say you have no problems running 4 gb of ram eh? winXP pro 32 even eh? interesting. can i run it with 4 sticks? or should I get 2 sticks? Are you finding it a noticeable amout of headroom in you day to day computing?
 
FragMan said:
hmm I was thinking of adding 2gb more of ram to my setup (see siggy) and say you have no problems running 4 gb of ram eh? winXP pro 32 even eh? interesting. can i run it with 4 sticks? or should I get 2 sticks? Are you finding it a noticeable amout of headroom in you day to day computing?
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Yes, that's what I'm saying...The only issue I have is with Vista 64. I'm using 4x 1GB sticks and have no problems at all except booting Vista64. I really don't see a difference in day to day stuff, but in ET:Quake Wars, I do notice a difference. 2x 2GB sticks would be better IMO, but I have no problems at all, except in Vista64 and that is a boot up problem only, I believe. When I was able to boot up in Vista64(for about a week, but I had the random error I spoke of the entire time) I never had a problem either. So if you're running XP Pro32 or Vista32 I wouldn't think you would have a problem with 4x 1GB sticks of ram with the DS3 r3.3, because I don't...
 
BillParrish said:
I do not recall seeing that issue before. It sounds more like a software problem. I did notice the only real difference was Vista is being installed on the raid 0. That should not matter but perhaps it is worth a try to break the raid into single disks and try installing Vista on just one drive. At least you could eliminate that as the source of the issue or confirm that there is something about the raid vista is having an issue with.
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He's also got mismatched memory....
 
dook43 said:
He's also got mismatched memory....
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I just don't think it has to do with different branded memory. If that was the problem, I think it would also surface in Vista32 & XP Pro. As I stated, it's a boot issue only with Vista64. I think I am going to to Install Vista64 on a single drive today though, because I've read about the error I'm getting. It seems from what I have read that it is most likely a hard drive controller error, so I'm thinking it could have to do with the raid controller or raid drivers(I'm thinking it's the raid drivers).I'll report my results in a few hours.

**Update**
I was able to put Vista64 on another drive that I have in a non-raid configuration and have had no problems at this point and I did setup the OS with all the latest drivers for my setup. After many reboots I have not gotten the error again and it happened right away before. So ATM I have a triple boot setup ;)
 
hello guys. Its a great guide and it made be type of a pro from a newbee. first i am mentioning my system specs and then my results, so Bill please have a look at them and see if thats ok.

Intel E6600
gigabyte ga965-dq6 rev 1.0 using latest f-11 bios
transcend axaram ddr2 800 (4-4-4-12) 1.8v Default b companies website
xfx geforce 8800 gt overclocked edition
thermaltake big typhoon cooler.
thermaltake armour case
win vista ultimate 32 bit



now my results
CPU Clock Ratio (Note)____________ [X9] <<<----CPU Multiplier
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [340] <<<----FSB Speed (Front Side Buss)
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [104]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.50]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 800 850
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [manual]
CAS Latency Time_____________ [5]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay______ [5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_____[5]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)________[15]
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_______4 _____[auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay______3 _____[auto]
Write to Precharge Delay______6 _____[auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay________42 ______[0]<-- defaults as this for some reason
Read to Precharge Delay_______4 _____[auto]
Memory Performance Enhance__________ [Fast]
High Speed DRAM DLL Settings________ [Option 1]
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.275]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.15V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.15V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.38125V]

after this the result iam getting are as follow.

processor 3060 mhz
ram at 850 mhz with timmings 5-5-5-15 and everything is stable. and my fsb in cpu-z is 1360. and it cool.

now i want to ask that is my multiplier at 9 ok. cuz if i make it a 8 and 340 fsb my ghz will be low as i cannot go more than 350fsb, this is think is due to my mobo dq6 rev 1.0 as only rev 3.0 supports 1600mhz fsb, am i right??

also my ram is at 850mhz but fsb:dram is showing 4:5 is this ok or should be something else. and is CIA in bios any good as i have seen most of the users have kept it at disabled? if i just enables it and put it to any value sport, or raciing etc my pc is stuck at windows boot

what if i use spd 3 instead of 2.5 but that will make my ram to 1020mhz? will it be ok


Thanks and really appreciate your help
 
after this the result iam getting are as follow.
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processor 3060 mhz
ram at 850 mhz with timmings 5-5-5-15 and everything is stable. and my fsb in cpu-z is 1360. and it cool.


now i want to ask that is my multiplier at 9 ok. cuz if i make it a 8 and 340 fsb my ghz will be low as i cannot go more than 350fsb, this is think is due to my mobo dq6 rev 1.0 as only rev 3.0 supports 1600mhz fsb, am i right??

Sure that is fine, not sure why you cannot go above 350FSB mine will do 485 FSB but I did a lot of mods to the heatpipe. Best sweet spot would be 8 x 400 with 2.0 memory mulitpler and then inch up from there but if you cant get past 350 the setting you have are good. (fan on NB/MCH might help it gets awfull hot and is OCed just like the cpu. rip off the "bling" cover and carefully spread the outer fins a bit and a 40mm fan will pop right on and the other fins will hold it without glue or screws.) By support they mean bios support. this board could run any Intel cpu made if Gigabyte decided to give us bios updates.

also my ram is at 850mhz but fsb:dram is showing 4:5 is this ok or should be something else. and is CIA in bios any good as i have seen most of the users have kept it at disabled? if i just enables it and put it to any value sport, or raciing etc my pc is stuck at windows boot

Yep same thing just expressed a different way, 4 cpu clock tics to 5 memory clock ticks x 2 for DDR2 means your memory data rate is 5/4x2 or 1.25 x 2 = 2.5 times as fast as the FSB setting. The cpu will alway run at 4 x the FSB and we cannot change that. Gigabyte just does the math and gives us simple to figure out numbers, one of the things I like about the board. That memory ratio stuff confuses me and I like knowing if I put in 3.0 memory multiplier I can just multiply FSB x 3 and have my memory speed. You current setting is a good one, memory is a little overclocked for some extra performance. Loosening up the timings does not hurt enough to matter, but you can play with them more if you like, try 5 4 4 12 and see if it will pass a memtest run. The "0" in the sub timings is the default and means the same thing as auto, no worries, my typo. I do not care for the "automatic overclocking" as you found out, it is crap.


what if i use spd 3 instead of 2.5 but that will make my ram to 1020mhz? will it be ok
It might you would need to test and move up gradually, reduce the mulitplier on the cpu so it is not running so fast, back off on the FSB to run the memory slower, kick in the 3.0 mulitplier and start raising the FSB testing with memtest to determine how fast your memory can run. In the first few posts of this thread I go into detail on how to find our what your memory is capable of, you cpu might not be listed in the tables etc. but the general procedure is the same. It is a lot of time and work but does not have to be done all at once.
 
bill! What is the cheapest glue I can use to glue a fan on the NB heatsink? I don't have hot melt glue gun or w/e.
 
Thanks Bill for your kind help.

I will try to set my multipliers above 350 and see what happens, with more voltages. Also i will try to set my memory as you mentioned. Will post about my new results if i get everything stable. Thanks again
 
total0 said:
bill! What is the cheapest glue I can use to glue a fan on the NB heatsink? I don't have hot melt glue gun or w/e.
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In the paragraph below I say RTV, there is a brand called RTV but here I mean it by its real meaning, Room Tempertature Vulcanizing, which just means that at room temp the glue solution will cure by itself and turn into a rubber like compound. So RTV brand glue would do fine but any silicone adhesive that will cure at room temp will be good to go.

Ok, normally you dont want products with silicone around electronics but in this case it will not matter. Any inexpensive general purpose RTV silicone adhesive should do the trick. Heck RTV silicon gasket sealer would work if you could stand the smell as it dries. You want something that will stick to plastic and metal and not dry hard. Look for something that says it will remain flexiable after drying. That way you kinda make your own rubber fan mounts. I lay the case on its side, decide how it is going on for routing the power wires in the direction I want, make sure I have it so the airflow isblowing down into the heatsink, put a blob in each fan mounting hole that will contact the heatsink fins so some of the glue is "sticking out" above the level of the fan housing, wait 30 seconds for the glue to firm up/skin a tiny bit so it will not drip out, and just gently lay it on the heatsink. I then give it just a very very small push down and a wiggle in the center, not even trying to sit it flush on the heatsink but more to make sure each blob grabs some fin. I wait 2 minutes and then very carefully with a pencil or toothpic turn the fan blades and make sure no glue has gotten on them and the fan turns freely without hitting anything, and then go watch TV for 1/2 hour. I really does not take a lot to hold one on if it dones not get bumped. I knocked one off one time, just cleaned off (the silicone stuff just peels right off, never know it was on there) the old glue and redid it.

I use this because I had it laying around. I think its a bit pricey but the tube I found had to be 5 years old judging by the dust and I dont even remember where or why I bought it.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031780578&postcount=5
 
I have a perplexing problem and have worked on it for a couple weeks now and need assistance.

I had been running on a E6600 at 410x8 for the longest time (months). Did a normal reboot one day and the system did the double start (as if something were wrong) and reset the overclock. No biggie I thought, just go into the Bios and load back up my overclock profile. No dice. No matter what setting/voltage I have tried since then it won't get past the memory test before it does the double boot and resets the settings.

I have even tried just to manually enter in the stock speeds instead of choosing auto to see if that worked (like it would before) and nothing. The only thing that will completely boot is if the FSB is set to the default settings.

I even tried another CPU (e6550) to see if I cooked something in the processor....no dice either (meaning no overclock in the bios). The weird thing is that I can use Easytune (last resort) to overclock and it works fine, however the settings will not survive a reboot. But it does overclock fine.

I need to retain what hair I have left, so help me :)


EDIT: I even tried different ram....same result (ram test fine at all speeds I have tried with memtest)
 
So, let me make sure I got this right. You can overclock when in windows, but your bois overclock fails on bootup? First I would reset the bios with the MB jumper and start from scratch. Do you have a way to test you PSU? When you start the PC it is being strained more than in typical use. Those are both just guesses, but worth a try.
 
Yep, already tried a clean bios reset. No way to test the PSU, can only throw in a spare one.
 
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