Tagan Says [H] Reviews are Paid For.....

GORANKAR said:
[H] does vid card reviews the way they do to give us a better idea of how well a game actually plays on a given vid card at the settings they think most people would play the game. So 800x600 is not a res they bother to bench much around here. They also include apples to apples benches in all vid card reviews, so I fail to see your problem in this regard.

Their apples to apples benches seem to jive with what the majority of other reviewers at other sites get. So, if they are being paid off, they are doing a piss poor job for their "clients".. Since you admit to not reading the reviews, I guess you would not know any of that.

I am glad that oral diarrhea is not contagious. Continue to troll if you like.
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heheh theyve actually had to use 800x600 or 640x480 for one review recently, because mid range cards couldnt handle it, it was Lost Planet FX10
 
Volucris said:
I don't need to have some company tell me they have paid reviews. I already knew that and that's one of the many reasons I feel [H] does a shitty job with reviews. There are far better places to get reviews.
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Volucris said:
I'm only here because this isn't their review section.

[H] has a poor method of reviewing things. They're paid off in most cases and use asinine methods of comparison. Like their video card comparisons where they compare the performance of a video card while not using the same performance settings for different cards in a game. It creates useless statistics unless you do the same specs for every card.
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I'd refute your claims here if it weren't so obvious you're just trolling. I've seen 4 yr olds go around shouting their newly discovered "naughty words" PEE! and POO! that were more subtile then you.
 
Volucris said:
I'm only here because this isn't their review section.

[H] has a poor method of reviewing things. They're paid off in most cases and use asinine methods of comparison. Like their video card comparisons where they compare the performance of a video card while not using the same performance settings for different cards in a game. It creates useless statistics unless you do the same specs for every card.
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Where is the proof? They slam some products with people who have ads on the site.... what ... you... waaa? :confused:

<grabs blunt object>
 
Kyle, remind me never to piss you off...:eek:

What if he really does like the cock? You just did him a favor.
 
This is kind of madness wouldn't you say? There are 12 pages of this crap all from one line in a forum by an admin at Tagan? Who cares? Throwing around names won't help Hardocp either. If a company you reviewed says that on their forum, shrug it off. Now more people have read what that guy said than if this had never been mentioned.

And for the record I have an ABS Tagan ITZ 700W PSU and it runs fine (not that its the same or matters). I think everyone is grasping at straws here. It is not very nice to read the mods and long-timers of my favorite hardware site resorting to this stuff over the obvious intentions of someone on another forum. Its saturday night, grab a beer, watch a movie, and relax!:cool:
 
Funny stuff. The guy with all the information that knows I am paid off and questions my professional integrity just graduated from high school..:rolleyes:
 
That's one epic troll of a post given the sheer absence of evidence in any of the presented charges.

As a newswriter for one of the gaming sites who often ends up linking to [H] when the occasional hardware news or review item pertains to what we cover, I find the accusations hilarious.

The [H] methodology for pitting video cards against one another in terms of what's playable is actually very illuminating. It eliminates the guesswork of trying to descry whether a card will perform well at a little bit lower or little bit higher settings than its competitor.
 
I'm surprised a company would actually go and say that... Is this the first
time someone's ever said anything like that or close to it Kyle?
 
Paid comes in several forms..... It could be either banner ads or simple cash; either way how else is a large site to stay running?.?.?....
 
Yeah, but I don't think [H] is getting paid by the advertisers for their reviews. What I'm saying is that paying for an add doesn't get you a good review, and not paying for an add will get you a bad review. I remember when [H]Consumer did a system evaluation on a monarch computer system, back when there was still monarch computers, and it got torn to shreds in the review for bad support, mismatch color dvd drives, and this is when half the ads were from monarch.

I still read other reviews, don't want to put all of my eggs in one basket, but for the most part [H] is good and clean in my book. Still don't like the 30 days with Vista review on 2 different machines running nvidia cards at a time when nvidia couldn't make a Vista driver to save its life, and their conclusion that Vista was unstable. But that's a whole different can of worms...
 
R1ckCa1n said:
I don't think people question your ethics. End of day, banner ads and such are common place on the hardware site which also generates good revenue. Doesn't mean the company A pays for more banners over the next "x" period of time as part of the review. Does it make it wrong, no. Something has to keep the [H] servers running ;)
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Wasn't this PSU ABS branded and isn't ABS and NewEgg the same company, and isn't that a big NewEgg advertisement up top?
 
Ex-fucking-zzactly! If anyone should be pissed about the "paid" review, it should be Newegg/ABS/Rosewill/Chief Value/wtf ever else they're calling themselves. It may be manufactured by Tagan, but for all intents and purposes, it's an ABS (Newegg) PSU. Yet Newegg is still a MAJOR advertiser here...Hmm?

People grasping at straws? Hardly, some asshat said some inflamatory stuff, is employed by said company on their official message boards. Under the law (IANAL) that seems to me as Tagan approves of it's employess libelous actions. IMHO, they should be reprimanding THEIR employee (perhaps a firing is too much), and issue an apology to Kyle.

Bottom line is this: the [H] review exposed another poser PSU for what it was - an overpriced piece of junk. So the fuck what if a 1300w Tagan does "fine" on someone else's system, who may pull (let's just pull a # here) 500w? It wasn't sold as 500w, it was sold as 1300w, and while it may have actually put out what it said it would, it did NOT do it cleanly. The Thermaltake 1200w from a while back (April) did a FAR better job - in efficiency, ripple & regulation. It may be rated as 100w less than the Tagan, but still, I'd be willing to bet the Tagan @ 1200w would still be far "dirtier" than the TT, and certainly less efficient. All at pretty much the same price (@ Newegg, ~$370ish) - yet the TT is *modular*, and has a 5 year warranty vs the Tagan/ABS's 3 year. Seems like a no-brainer for the ultra high-end PSU there.

...And if you search around, you can get either the W0156 or W0133 units for the low $300's - even better. Only difference between the new SKUs being Crossfire and SLI "certification" it seems.
 
Yup.

It's actually a VERY GOOD PSU. I'm willing to say that. But if I'm paying $400 for a 1300W, dammit I want a 1300W!!!
 
jonnyGURU said:
Yup.

It's actually a VERY GOOD PSU. I'm willing to say that. But if I'm paying $400 for a 1300W, dammit I want a 1300W!!!
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The question is though if [H] reviews are paid for....why did it do WORSE for PcPer than it did for me? :confused:
 
There's a guy in the thread over at the Tagan forums who is an absolute fucking first degree moron, named Schwarz. I fought the urge to register and make sure he's fully aware of just how stupid he is and ultimately won out, deciding that it makes me seem like a 13 year old if I go to "rival" websites and tell 13 year olds how fucking stupid they are.

So I'll settle for this instead.
 
Paul_Johnson said:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=480
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I really liked the tables where they summarized the ripple, noise, and voltage variance and compared them directly against the allowable standards. I know the screen caps of the oscilliscope are sexier, but it's hard for me to digest/translate that information. It's nice in that it lets you see the waveform, which is significant, but the idea of "here's the spec, here's the numbers, red numbers exceed the spec"--that was helpful to me. Maybe [H] (and jonnyGURU.com too) could incorporate a similar set of tables?
 
I'm curious if this thread is as far as Kyle wants to take things, as far as responding to tagan's BS cliams of "bought" reviews. Will we hear instead of a ban hammer a judge's gavel? :p

I know it would be pointless and kind of stupid to think of legal remedies over everyone that said something unkind about the [H], but this seems a little different then run of the mill internet retard spouting off. When it comes from an official representative of a company, that basically accuses you and your business as taking payola or bribes, that's about the most fundelmental attack on someone's integrity as you can get.
 
I registered here a while ago, but my "other duties" keep me from using your forums more often. ;)

Paul is doing a fantastic job and is as objective as they come. Keep up the great work!

This whole muck throwing episode is reminiscent of another company who tried to do the same when their product fell short. I won't name names, but let's just say they used Topower as well. ;)
 
Super Nade said:
I won't name names, but let's just say they used Topower as well. ;)
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Haha.... yeah... still have the list of shills for that one saved in My Documents folder for future reference.
 
I was really disappointed with Tagan's response on this one.

I e-mailed them to express my disgust with how they handled the situation and informed them I would not be purchasing their products, nor recommending them.

It's funny: PCPerspective's review seemed to conjur up much of the same issue's [H]ard|OCP's did. I haven't heard Tagan screaming that Ryan is being paid off.

Anyway, keep the PSU reviews rolling.
 
Tagan can pay me $5000 and I'll yell in the middle of my city their psu is the greatest thing since sliced bread lol... I am serious though. ;)
 
Master [H];1031674676 said:
I was really disappointed with Tagan's response on this one.

I e-mailed them to express my disgust with how they handled the situation and informed them I would not be purchasing their products, nor recommending them.

It's funny: PCPerspective's review seemed to conjur up much of the same issue's [H]ard|OCP's did. I haven't heard Tagan screaming that Ryan is being paid off.

Anyway, keep the PSU reviews rolling.
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Yes the repsonse to PcPer's review has been quite different:
http://www.tagan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2715#post2715
 
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