So... How are you liking leopard?

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So far, I love it. Everything was seamless from the get go for me. I formatted my Hard drive before I installed it - Just to be sure there were no issues.

The only one complaint I have is when I open Dashboard, it stutters every time. I am chalking this up to be new video card drives, hopefully that will resolve the issue.

I currently run Leopard on a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, with 4GB of Ram, and 256 MB GeForce 8600GT. It is most defiantly worth the 129$ just for the speed increase, not to mention all the other features you get.

Let me know what you all think!
 
I haven't had much time to play with it. But I can definitely tell the speed boost. But then again I did a clean install and Tiger wasn't running as fast as when I first bought my iMac. Start up is very fast and shut down is twice as fast if not faster. Now I just gotta reinstall all my apps. No problems with dashboard though.
 
so far so good. the initial 30-45min after install was the worst because everything was being indexed by spotlight so the system was pretty much unusable after that and a reboot leopard is zipping along. only issue i've had is mail crashed when i first launched it, and macirssi is not leopard compatible.,
 
I thought I'd pass along a little trick that many have found.

If you like your dock on bottom, but are not a fan of the new 3d dock, in terminal, execute these commands:

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.Dock no-glass -boolean YES
killall Dock

and if you want the 3d dock back, replace 'YES' with 'NO'

voila!
 
I love it so far, that being said i also sold my 20" White imac and got a 24" AluMac last night ;) i have no self control. The glossy display rocks, i dont want to leave my desk chair since i got this thing. It came with an update cd to upgrade to leopard. Anyways Leopard seems rock solid so far, we were playing around with the remote desktop feature on ichat a few mins ago lol. good stuff.
 
I went to the preview last night... And, well... eh, I didn't really see the need to upgrade unfortunately...

It wasn't much snappier on the same hardware as I'd use it on... Spaces was nice, but I just don't have the need for it...

The new skin's awesome though :)
 
Arcygenical said:
I went to the preview last night... And, well... eh, I didn't really see the need to upgrade unfortunately...

It wasn't much snappier on the same hardware as I'd use it on... Spaces was nice, but I just don't have the need for it...

The new skin's awesome though :)
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interesting, i felt it was MUCH faster than tiger....but it's also different doing an in store demo vs on your own hardware at home.

but either way, theres nothing in leopard thats just so revolutionary that you MUST upgrade.
 
usualpulp said:
interesting, i felt it was MUCH faster than tiger....but it's also different doing an in store demo vs on your own hardware at home.

but either way, theres nothing in leopard thats just so revolutionary that you MUST upgrade.
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I've heavily tweaked my OS, removing almost everything that I don't need... even down to system KEXT's and the like, that it would have to be incredibly faster to beat what I'm using.

And besides, who cares? The limiting factor I'm still experiencing is *ahem* office under Rosetta.
 
Bought a 2.0ghz mac mini last night to put on the tv in my living room. Short of not being able to use the computer as a pvr its amazing (cablecard). The new appletvish front row is great, and i can encode with handbrake while watching video ts folders through frontrow or the dvd player (which is very nice also). Apart from price theres really almost no reason to use an apple tv with what the mini is capable of. I also bought the wireless keyboard to go with it, the thing is amazingly small, but still feels very nice although a bit cramped cause of my ape hands.

The way network shares are handled in finder is a great improvement as well.

Spaces is another very nice thing. Seems like it will be very handy to reduce clutter on screen, just set up certain programs to run in a specific space any time they are started. The switching is seamless. This alone may be enough of a reason to upgrade my original macbook pro eventually.
 
Spaces rocks, but the overall performance is fantastic, and what a difference my new imac is over the old. I love the looks of this thing, I havent wanted to leave my desk all weekend while using it lol.
 
I haven't decided to upgrade or not yet. Right now I'm broke, but it's only 65 bucks for students.

Do they ship a new version of GCC with it? I've never done a mac upgrade, but I'm kind of hesitant because I fucking hate recompiling all this CERN software for school I need to use. It takes over an two hours just to compile the programs on my duo 2.0ghz macbook with 2GB of RAM, not to mention a million ./configures and all that shit.
 
sum ASM required said:
Apparently it was a typo through my schools Software licensing department :( They thought it was going to be the same price as tiger.
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Yeah. I was really pissed that Apple jacked up the price for students. I was going to wait in line at my Apple Store to pick it up, but after I found out how much it was going to cost, I decided to wait and buy it later.
 
CEpeep said:
Yeah. I was really pissed that Apple jacked up the price for students. I was going to wait in line at my Apple Store to pick it up, but after I found out how much it was going to cost, I decided to wait and buy it later.
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jacked up the price? not sure what you mean by that because EDU gets the same discount on almost all the stuff
 
Amazon has Leopard at $109 free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mac-Version-10-5-Leopard/dp/B000FK88JK

For once too, my gov't employee discount beat out the student discount at Apple though, I got my copy for $107. Still not enjoying Leopard just yet though as I haven't had time this weekend to back up my system before the upgrade. I can't wait for Spaces though.
 
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gigglebyte said:
jacked up the price? not sure what you mean by that because EDU gets the same discount on almost all the stuff
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It's 109 for students now instead of 69 like all the other iterations of Mac OS X were.

It's 69 for institutions and *some* of them are selling them to students around that price, but direct from Apple it will still cost you 109.
 
Optional87 said:
It's 109 for students now instead of 69 like all the other iterations of Mac OS X were.

It's 69 for institutions and *some* of them are selling them to students around that price, but direct from Apple it will still cost you 109.
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I haven't checked it under my faculty/staff discounts yet... that might be cheaper. On the apple webpage it has a faculty/staff thing now and it was the same as the student discount.

I might upgrade if it really is that much faster. I feel that apple just takes things that have been around forever and gives them cute names, sometimes with slightly different functionality though. I mean, I've been using avidly using virtual desktops for the past decade. Anyways, I think if it was closer to the 70 mark I'd do it, but I don't think I can justify 120 for it.
 
My thoughts on Leopard:

UI changes are nice, except the transparent menu bar. Ugh.

I like the 3D Dock, but the Arstechnica review provided a way of enabling the "alternate" 2-D view.

A lot of things to like, but a couple that bug me:

The FIREWALL sucks. Big step back from Tiger. You can't specify your own ports to allow, unless you open up terminal and use ipfw.

Also, THE FIREWALL IS DISABLED BY DEFAULT. Even if you had Tiger locked down, and did an "upgrade" install, Leopard resets your firewall to allow all incoming connections.

What the holy hell??
 
I'm having a tough time figuring out how to use the new firewall. Are you serious when you say that the only way to specify ports is to use the terminal? If so, that is a crazy stupid thing for Apple to do.

How do you use the ipfw command?
 
flwolf said:
I'm having a tough time figuring out how to use the new firewall. Are you serious when you say that the only way to specify ports is to use the terminal? If so, that is a crazy stupid thing for Apple to do.

How do you use the ipfw command?
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Well the short answer is: "ipfw -h"

Some better info here...

http://www.ibiblio.org/macsupport/ipfw/


But still, it's not exactly user friendly.
 
I'm digging it. NYU is selling it for $69, so I suppose other university stores will be selling it for the same. Netinfo is gone though, wtf?
 
69 at university of idaho for me. I'll be installing it tomorrow.

Do you think it is 69 here because our bookstore is "an authorized apple service/dealer"?? They have this sign there that apple gave them that says that. idk
 
anyone else having problems with airport disk not being recognized??it worked fine with tiger now that i upgraded, there isnt even airport disk util in leopard:eek:
 
loaded it up last night and do have a couple of gripes about it....the freakin translucency on the menu bar is annoying as hell since the menus are still white!! just looks bad..either have them all translucent or none of if you HAVE to have it...at least make it a user adjustable option...haven't checked the firewall out yet but have had issues pulling images from yahoo in Safari...I try Firefox and its fine....when I get home I will pull info from the activity window but basically its saying the host can't be found...but again..only in safari...odd
 
to bypass the "semi-transparent" menubar just open up your wallpaper in photoshop and add a 12.5pixel (1680x1050 resolution) white bar at the top. this will make it look like the old menu bar. or you can do a gradient if you want it to look a little more fancy.

Kind of a PITA, but I guess it works for now.
 
well I had figured that one out already and I don't really consider that a fix...more of a work around but yeah...it will work...now has anybody else noticed that the menus also have VERY slight transparency to them?
 
My problem with 10.5 is the removal of classic support and yes I have a few old games on my 12" g4 laptop yet.
 
mngl1200 said:
My problem with 10.5 is the removal of classic support and yes I have a few old games on my 12" g4 laptop yet.
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Yeah, it was strange of them to do that without even saying anything about it. Your choices are stay with Tiger or get an Intel Mac and use Sheepshaver.
 
so besides a new background, a new reflective dock, and a new top bar what I was supposed to notice?

Folders on my dock? Yawn.

Time Machine - Yawn - why? Because its dumb. Change to my mail file and it will back it ALL up again. Change to a VM - same thing. Change to movie - oh god... there went 5gb


Still it installed without a hitch, as simple as most Windows upgrades I have done.

Mail isn't as improved as I want, making smart mailboxes got more annoying
 
Regardless of what some people are saying, I think it is much "snappier" than my previous install of tiger.

Safari seems to be A LOT better. Quickview will end up being something I use all the time. And spaces will be really nice on my single monitor setup when I'm using final cut.

I guess it's worth the 69 i paid for it. :cool:
 
Shivetya said:
Time Machine - Yawn - why? Because its dumb. Change to my mail file and it will back it ALL up again. Change to a VM - same thing. Change to movie - oh god... there went 5gb
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you don't really understand how time machine works...do you?
 
ok..home now and here is whats going on with Safari...when trying to go to yahoo pics don't load up but they do in firefox..check the activity window in Safari and its showing http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/astro/aqu43.gif (main part is always the us.i1.yimg.com) and if I try to pull that URL directly Safari gives an error saying Safari can’t find the server.
Safari can’t open the page “http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/astro/aqu43.gif” because it can’t find the server “us.i1.yimg.com”. now if I do this in Firefox it pulls the page just fine...any ideas cause its happening to more than just yahoo
 
Spent 3 hours on the phone with Apple trying to get Active Directory authentication working, and made absolutely no progress.

That's my initial impression.
 
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