LG L246W

BlueMak said:
Sounds like you are running it under a lower than native resolution and there is some scaling going on.
OR, that you use the VGA or Component cable or VGA connection on your graphics card and you need to fix the geometry yourself.

First make sure you are running at 1920x1200. Then the rest and let us know.
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Nah I am running it at 1920x1200 using the HDMI to DVI cable. I am just talking about how the actual screen itself doesnt fill up all the way to the bezel and there is the little black area between it and the bezel. It just seems a little bigger at the top so it seems like the display as a whole has been pushed down. It's not that noticeable but it bothers me nonetheless.
 
On mine the space is about equal across all sides, and about 4 or 5 (what would be) pixels in width.
Looks normal to me. What kind of space are you talking about? more than a few pixels?
 
no not really much at all but i can like push the bezel down and it looks normal. I guess my monitor's frame is very slightly off. i might be just paranoid about it. ill go to the store and look at the one they have on display.
 
Hey guys, I want to pick up this display today. I was wondering two things:

1.) How do Playstation 2 titles look on this display via component from an actual PS2?

2.) How do you get audio from the PS2 without spending too much money on speakers etc? :)

Thanks in advance!
 
fornarmr said:
no not really much at all but i can like push the bezel down and it looks normal. I guess my monitor's frame is very slightly off. i might be just paranoid about it. ill go to the store and look at the one they have on display.
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Yeah, my bezel isn't really movable, so yours may be slightly defective.
 
I just bought this monitor. I have HDMI out on my HP 8510p (ATI mobility Radeon HD 2600) laptop. When i hook it up to the LG via HDMI to HDMI, it shows a pink hue over everything. Updated video drivers, rolled back, installed monitor drivers. Still nothing. Tried 3 different panels, 3 different HDMI cables...still pink.

So i broke down and bought a Samsung 245bw, using HDMI to DVI, works just fine. I really want the LG though.

Anyone have a clue. Think its an ATI issue?
 
sucks because it was the last one best buy had and they dont know when they are getting a new shipment in. ugh
 
bharris said:
I just bought this monitor. I have HDMI out on my HP 8510p (ATI mobility Radeon HD 2600) laptop. When i hook it up to the LG via HDMI to HDMI, it shows a pink hue over everything. Updated video drivers, rolled back, installed monitor drivers. Still nothing. Tried 3 different panels, 3 different HDMI cables...still pink.

So i broke down and bought a Samsung 245bw, using HDMI to DVI, works just fine. I really want the LG though.

Anyone have a clue. Think its an ATI issue?
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You didn't have another computer or source to test it on?
Otherwise, the only thing I can think is that the reds were set too high, but I assume you played with the color levels.
 
I used it on a Samsung 245BW. Worked fine. Although that connection was HDMI (laptop) to DVI (Monitor).
 
BlueMak said:
What's your graphics card??
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NVidia 8800GTX. Just a reminder so you don't have to search for my post. A game i play forces 800x600 resolution and the LG monitor stretches it. My Westy used to display it properly with black bars on each side.
 
Opeth said:
NVidia 8800GTX. Just a reminder so you don't have to search for my post. A game i play forces 800x600 resolution and the LG monitor stretches it. My Westy used to display it properly with black bars on each side.
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The LG can't natively use correst aspect scaling. It has to rely on the graphics card. The drivers of the 8800 series, at least under XP, are a mess for this. They work for some people, they don't work for others. You can try using 95 or 96 series of drivers if you absolutely have to have them with bars. Or hope for the best with newer drivers or install Vistal that seems to have less of a problem with it.

Just make sure you have in the nvidia control panel under flat panel scaling chosen the let nvidia scaling with fixed aspect ratio, click apply and hope it stays that way.
 
what is the best NV panel setting for 9300k."vista"
cause i don't have a hardware calibrator, so all my setting is manually which is not precise .
or if someone can share his accurate color profile so I can use it with the
 
BlueMak said:
The LG can't natively use correst aspect scaling. It has to rely on the graphics card. The drivers of the 8800 series, at least under XP, are a mess for this. They work for some people, they don't work for others. You can try using 95 or 96 series of drivers if you absolutely have to have them with bars. Or hope for the best with newer drivers or install Vistal that seems to have less of a problem with it.

Just make sure you have in the nvidia control panel under flat panel scaling chosen the let nvidia scaling with fixed aspect ratio, click apply and hope it stays that way.
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Since when can't the LG use 1:1 mode?
I set my nVidia control panel to "use my display's built-in scaling", and whenever I lower the resolution to something less than 1920*1200, I can go to the menu->screen->ARC->and select 1:1.

I see you have the 245WP, and I have the 246WP, not sure if there is a difference with the scaling options.
edit: just looked at my service menu, mine says 245WP, box says 246WP.... not sure what that means.
 
BlueMak said:
1:1 is NOT correct aspect scaling, it is 1:1 scaling.
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Is aspect scaling where it would force 800*600 into 16:10 aspect ratio, but still keep it 600 vertical or something? If not, let me know, I'm curios.

Anyway, it sounds like he just wants to play the game at 800*600, with black bars. Why isn't 1:1 good enough for that?

EDIT: nevermind, got it. went back to his original post. I was just going off of his most recent post. Should have read the original before jumping in.
 
Hey guys!
Just hooked up my monitor.

It looks ORGASMIC!
You guys were so right about the MVA panels.

Here's my question: How do I set it to sRGB mode?
I hit the Input button and see "RGB", "HDMI", and "Component". If I select RGB it tells me to check signal cable... But HDMI works.
 
RGB means use the VGA input on the monitor, as opposed to HDMI.
You want to use HDMI, but set it to sRGB color mode, so go to the menu, and under the picture menu (the topmost one), go to CSM, and set it to sRGB.

Enjoy :)
 
Alright, I got my replacemnt from LG on Friday. I am really impressed.

They sent me a brand new, boxed monitor. Everything, stand, cables, the whole thing. This one is perfect, zero dead pixels, backlight is superb and the gradients are silky smooth. I am very impressed. The only thing I can see is that this one has that problem where there is a line on the left side. Little annoying. What is interesting about it is if I turn off overscan (my drivers won't display right without it) The line is still there. So it seems to be a problem with the input itself and not the panel. I will get some pictures later to show you. For reference it was made in April 07.

The whole thing took about two weeks, which isn't bad. They don't have a tracking system, so you have to call to get the tracking numbers.

Overall I am super impressed. I am not sure if the line thing is enough to send it back.

EDIT: Somehow the line disappeared... Hmmm. Has anything else had this happen? I remember the talks about this line awhile back. But I didn't know it would disappear. If this has happened to someone else could you tell me if it reappears? Thanks.
 
Basically it was a vertical line on the left edge of the panel. It spanned the whole vertical range of the panel. However, when turning off overscan, the visible picture drops an 1.5 in on the sides and 1 in on the top and bottom, when the line was visible it was still visible when in this mode. That is why I think it has something to do with the HDMI and not the panel itself.

The color of the line changed depending on the background.

I am not sure why it disappeared. On the assumption it is the connection I reseated the cable. I was also messing around with front porch settings but eventually set it back to what it was.

I then cycled through backgrounds and noticed it was gone! Lol.
 
LG L246WP-BM on Sale at Fry's for $499.95 + Tax

I have been looking at this item for a long time now and made a quick decision when I saw this new low price. Their in-store price is $599.99.

It shows as out of stock, but was told they are getting more in on Tuesday. Hopefully my order will ship then.

----- $531.20 out the door. -------

This is definately worth $60 more than the Samsung 245bw (price from newegg.com) - or at least I hope it is

The Westinghouse and Soyo were definately out due to horrible reviews and the Samsung 245bw was out becasue it was reviewed as a fair monitor with a TN screen. It did not leave me many options.
 
computerinfo said:
LG L246WP-BM on Sale at Fry's for $499.95 + Tax

I have been looking at this item for a long time now and made a quick decision when I saw this new low price. Their in-store price is $599.99.

It shows as out of stock, but was told they are getting more in on Tuesday. Hopefully my order will ship then.

----- $531.20 out the door. -------

This is definately worth $60 more than the Samsung 245bw (price from newegg.com) - or at least I hope it is

The Westinghouse and Soyo were definately out due to horrible reviews and the Samsung 245bw was out becasue it was reviewed as a fair monitor with a TN screen. It did not leave me many options.
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Resistance is futile!
 
I made the plunge today. And I love it. This is my first foray into lcds, and upgrading from a 19 inch dieing crt is drastic. Now if I could figure out how to use portrait view on xp with ati, i would be set.


I would recommend this monitor.

-Slobo
 
slobo said:
I made the plunge today. And I love it. This is my first foray into lcds, and upgrading from a 19 inch dieing crt is drastic. Now if I could figure out how to use portrait view on xp with ati, i would be set.


I would recommend this monitor.

-Slobo
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Yep, I just bought it, too, despite my reservations about it's lack of 1:1 pixel mapping (even if the menu says 1:1, it's NOT). I have to say that the Samsung 245BW and this are pretty darn close in looks. The Samsung has sharpness adjust, which doesn't exist on the LG, but the LG out of the box is very sharp over HDMI. The LG has better viewing angles, though.

Anyway, via a PC, it displays 1:1 at 1920x1200 no issues. However, if you have a game console connected via component for example, it won't display e.g. 852x480 correctly. It overscans like mad.

As a PC monitor it seems great.
 
Can it do image scaling in PC games?
Like games running at 1280x1024 will "stretch" to fit the full screen... And that's bad...
 
UtopiA said:
Can it do image scaling in PC games?
Like games running at 1280x1024 will "stretch" to fit the full screen... And that's bad...
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I think the way to get around this is if you're using Nvidia video cards, you can set the aspect scaling in the software.
 
WilliamG said:
I think the way to get around this is if you're using Nvidia video cards, you can set the aspect scaling in the software.
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Yes there is an option for image scaling in the Nvidia Control Panel, but it seems to be broken on certain graphics cards. No matter which option you select, it reverts back to default ("No scaling").

If anyone knows a workaround or a fix, please post or PM me.
 
WilliamG said:
Yep, I just bought it, too, despite my reservations about it's lack of 1:1 pixel mapping (even if the menu says 1:1, it's NOT). I have to say that the Samsung 245BW and this are pretty darn close in looks. The Samsung has sharpness adjust, which doesn't exist on the LG, but the LG out of the box is very sharp over HDMI. The LG has better viewing angles, though.

Anyway, via a PC, it displays 1:1 at 1920x1200 no issues. However, if you have a game console connected via component for example, it won't display e.g. 852x480 correctly. It overscans like mad.

As a PC monitor it seems great.
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Hmm, either you have a bad monitor or you might be confused as to waht 1:1 scaling is. For example, there is no reason to do 1:1 scaling of the 1920x1200 resolution, it won't show anything different since that is the native resolution...
You might be thinking of correct aspect scaling instead. Which would still not make much sense for that resolution, but would for the other resolutions available.
 
Yes, of course you are right. I mean aspect ratio scaling. The LG does 1:1, which makes e.g. 640x480 look TINY in the middle of your screen. It would be nice if the LG did e.g. 640x480 scaled correctly. That's what kills PS2 gaming, for example.
 
WilliamG said:
Yes, of course you are right. I mean aspect ratio scaling. The LG does 1:1, which makes e.g. 640x480 look TINY in the middle of your screen. It would be nice if the LG did e.g. 640x480 scaled correctly. That's what kills PS2 gaming, for example.
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ACTUALY, when you use the component connection then you CAN do correct aspect scaling. It doesn't work when you try to do it with VGA or HDMI/DVI only. Which IMO is very stupid, but...
 
computerinfo said:
LG L246WP-BM on Sale at Fry's for $499.95 + Tax

I have been looking at this item for a long time now and made a quick decision when I saw this new low price. Their in-store price is $599.99.

It shows as out of stock, but was told they are getting more in on Tuesday. Hopefully my order will ship then.

----- $531.20 out the door. -------
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As a possible alternative , CompUsa also has the L246WP-BM onsale for $499 w/free ship . http://http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=LG+L246WP%2DBM+&N=200011&Ntk=All&product_code=344641
 
Ok. False alarm on the line. It is a weird anomaly caused by changing by background to a light color and then changing back to an full bodied image. And it is actually only with one image.

Strange, but yeah. No need to worry.

I don't know a whole lot about this scaling thing. I mean, I get it, but I don't see why everyone is up in arms about it. I would like to do some testing to settle this once and for all. Here is what I have:

(2) 24" LG L246W
A Wii
An Xbox 360
A computer

I might have access to a PS2, maybe. Let me know what to do and I will run the tests! :D;)
 
BlueMak said:
ACTUALY, when you use the component connection then you CAN do correct aspect scaling. It doesn't work when you try to do it with VGA or HDMI/DVI only. Which IMO is very stupid, but...
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Eh? It didn't work for me at all. I hooked up my PS2 via component and the set stretches all games vertically. Can you explain what you did to make the LG aspect scale correctly?
 
WilliamG said:
Eh? It didn't work for me at all. I hooked up my PS2 via component and the set stretches all games vertically. Can you explain what you did to make the LG aspect scale correctly?
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Go to the monitor's menu under "screen" then "arc".
 
Just picked one up, so far so good. Got BB to PM it to Compusa and I had about $460 worth of giftcards to BB so I got it for $69 (after tax) out the door, can't beat that :D

Anyway, about calibration.... would you guys recommend the Nvidia CP for calibration or the Adobe calibration tool that comes with Photoshop?

Also, I see that it should be set on sRGB. After that, the only setting I should adjust physically on the monitor is the brightness, correct? i.e. change everything else in the Nvidia or Adobe software/drivers?
 
BlueMak said:
Go to the monitor's menu under "screen" then "arc".
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Still not seeing it! Are you telling me you have a black border around the entire PS2-game image? That's what you SHOULD have if the LG aspect scales correctly. Can you take a picture, please? :)
 
What a GREAT post!

We should Sticky this sucker!



ChakkaSol said:
I was wondering what the mva panel type was and with the pixel response time was 8 while most pva panel types are now 6. Looks like mva panels offer better color/blacks but give up a wee bit on pixel response. Not sure if one can actually see the difference between a 8ms and a 6 ms panel...if not much difference I think I would rather have better color/black reproduction. Anyway to find out?

From wikipedia if anyones interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#MVA

MVA
MVA (Multi-domain Vertical Alignment) was originally developed in 1998 by Fujitsu as a compromise between TN and IPS. It achieved fast pixel response (at the time), wide viewing angles, and high contrast at the cost of brightness and color reproduction. Modern MVA panels can offer wide viewing angles (second only to S-IPS technology), good black depth, good colour reproduction and depth, and fast response times thanks to the use of RTC technologies. There are several "next generation" technologies based on MVA, including AU Optronics' P-MVA and A-MVA, as well as Chi Mei Optoelectronics' S-MVA.

Analysts predicted that MVA would corner the mainstream market, but instead, TN has risen to dominance. A contributing factor was the higher cost of MVA, along with its slower pixel response (which rises dramatically with small changes in brightness). Cheaper MVA panels can also use dithering/FRC.


[edit] PVA
PVA (Patterned Vertical Alignment) and S-PVA (Super Patterned Vertical Alignment) are alternative versions of MVA technology offered by Samsung. Developed independently, it suffers from the same problems as MVA, but boasts very high contrast ratios such as 3000:1. Value-oriented PVA panels also use dithering/FRC. S-PVA panels all use true 8-bit color electronics and do not use any color simulation methods. PVA and S-PVA can offer good black depth, wide viewing angles and fast response times thanks to modern RTC technologies.
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WilliamG said:
Still not seeing it! Are you telling me you have a black border around the entire PS2-game image? That's what you SHOULD have if the LG aspect scales correctly. Can you take a picture, please? :)
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I don't have a camera or a PS2.
BUT, when I got my monitor I used the component connection to see if there is much difference between it and VGA for my Xbox 360. The VGA pwned the component connection. The only positive thing about the component connection at the time was that as I remember instead of getting the two options of Full and 1:1 that I get with VGA (or HDMI/DVI) I was having in the place of the 1:1 another option named Original. I don't know about the name, but what it did was correct aspect scaling as far as I remember. But since I have the 360 at 1080p I can use the VGA 1:1 and still get the same result only with much better picture quality throught the VGA. If you have the PS2 then just try it...not that hard.
 
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