GeForce 9800 - NVIDIA has the Press by the Throat

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AuDioFreaK39

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NVIDIA has finally gotten a strong grip on the media's throat with the selective information and press releases they are putting out. It's no wonder we can't speculate on the NV55 / Gxx that we call the GeForce 9800 series, because they simply haven't provided with a codename yet. The G92 is officially the 8700GTS, the G98 is some lower end model priced at $59, and the G86 is unconfirmed? I'm still placing high bets that they are going to call it the G90, but then again I can't be sure of it. As for a November 2007 release date, I would agree that it's highly probable considering the company's history of high end cards, as well as staying competitive with AMD/ATi's new upcoming lineup. Additionally, German based CryTek has given some hints about working exclusively with Intel and NVIDIA to give gamers the "best possible experience", meaning that Intel would release its Extreme Edition of the 45nm Penryn "Yorkfield" and "Wolfdale" chips in November, and NVIDIA would accordingly release the GeForce 9800 series.

Anyways, congrats to NVIDIA for keeping their release info on the "down low". As much as you all want a definitive answer, I'm very sure that it will be a November release for the GeForce 9800.

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GeForce 9800GTX + Intel Core 2 Quad 45nm Hi-k "Yorkfield" + SSE4 + Crysis = pwned? YES.
 
Hello AuDioFreaK39,

Oh, I do like your logic very much and hoping for it to be true, as I've got a "let's-buy-a-new-high-end-gaming-rig" itch for the last 4 months now and would love to shell out money on those items you've described ;)

Without double-posting though - here's my two bits on the whole idea.
 
Woohoo!!!!! :D Momma always told me patience is a virtue. Any idea what socket type those intels are?
 
It's called a NDA. Want inside information so you can pre-test the hardware and have a "review" ready as soon as the NDA is lifted? KEEP your data to yourself.

Leak information and forever be out of the loop.
 
Certain boards can. Check your board's site for information on new a BIOS that supports the new processors.
 
and 680i

I just became video cardless (sold here in the forums) in anticipation of what will happen in November.

I guess that means I'm betting on the same thing. If I go 3 months without a real video card and end up having to buy an 8800GTX anyway, I'm gonna be very sad.
 
Kowan said:
It's called a NDA. Want inside information so you can pre-test the hardware and have a "review" ready as soon as the NDA is lifted? KEEP your data to yourself.

Leak information and forever be out of the loop.
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Umm, may I ask how this is NDA? This is strictly my own personal opinion and speculation, thank you very much.
 
How is SSE4 (developed for multimedia related applications) going to help gaming performance? :confused: If anything I'm guessing Crysis is going to make use of all four cores of quad-core processors (like Penryn).
 
I am going to order my case, fans, fan controller, water cooler setup, and dragg butt on as much as I can withought going crazy till November. I guess painting the inside of the case, could kill some time too.

I want the IP35 Pro, does it have a good chance working well with 45nm Penryn "Yorkfield" and "Wolfdale" chips? It would be good to order the motherboard as early as possible to keep me buisy.

I still will shy away from the CPU and GPU as long as possible....

November is going to be fun!!
 
Moofasa~ said:
How is SSE4 (developed for multimedia related applications) going to help gaming performance? :confused: If anything I'm guessing Crysis is going to make use of all four cores of quad-core processors (like Penryn).
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SSE isn't just for multimedia. It helps speed up vector calculations done in any application. SIMD very much applies to games.
 
TalonMan said:
I am going to order my case, fans, fan controller, water cooler setup, and dragg butt on as much as I can withought going crazy till November. I guess painting the inside of the case, could kill some time too.

I want the IP35 Pro, does it have a good chance working well with 45nm Penryn "Yorkfield" and "Wolfdale" chips? It would be good to order the motherboard as early as possible to keep me buisy.

I still will shy away from the CPU and GPU as long as possible..
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My IP35 Pro and 4GB of Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 1066Mhz are waiting patiently for a Quad Core Penryn and a GeForce 9800GTX :)

I really hope NVIDIA pulls it off..
 
Can we keep the guesses down a notch lol? I mean there's a lot of other G92-threads. Most people do, or at least should, know what the rumors are currently pointing to. Then people like sheep get happy over someone's statement (no offense). No one really knows for certain what it will end up being, all that we have is 2-3 outcomes or possibilities and the current rumors, but don't mind me - have at it :eek:.
 
ryan_975 said:
SSE isn't just for multimedia. It helps speed up vector calculations done in any application. SIMD very much applies to games.
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I know that SSE in general is not only for media, but the improvements toward SSE4 specifically were geared toward multimedia applications (ie: the Divx encoder).
 
Alwayse something better coming out.

I think I will upgrade Dec / Jan.

My Rig ran Bioshock better than a quadcore with a Ge-Force 8500 did....
 
im gunna build a new pc in feb/march, surely the new quads and 9800gtx will be out by then
 
Justintoxicated said:
Alwayse something better coming out.

I think I will upgrade Dec / Jan.

My Rig ran Bioshock better than a quadcore with a Ge-Force 8500 did....
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Why would a quad core be paired with an 8500?

For all of those wondering about SSE4...
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SSE4 is a new instruction set for the Intel Core microarchitecture, initially implemented in the Penryn processor.

Unlike all previous iterations of SSE, SSE4 contains instructions that do operations not specific to multimedia applications. It features a number of instructions whose action is determined by a constant field, and, in a rather surprising move, a set of instructions which take XMM0 as an implicit third operand. In addition, SSE4 totally lacks support for operations on 64-bit MMX registers; SIMD integer operations can be carried out on 128-bit XMM registers only.

Several of these instructions are enabled by the single-cycle shuffle engine in Penryn.
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SSE4 is ASM opcodes. Whatever there use is, the better.

Crysis is not the only target for killer systems I hope.
;)

Someone down at XS isn't under NDA, and I am pretty sure he has some cards, but he's waiting it out. :)
 
AuDioFreaK39 said:
This is strictly my own personal opinion and speculation, thank you very much.
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So, as encouraging as your topic is, its nothing but your own personal speculation with no sources or base for these claims.

Yet another thread to add to the pile.
 
Droc said:
So, as encouraging as your topic is, its nothing but your own personal speculation with no sources or base for these claims.

Yet another thread to add to the pile.
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That is what the forums are for, people wanting to BS about new or unreleased products.....

I'm suprised when people think posts in the forms need to just be fact only....
 
TalonMan said:
That is what the forums are for, people wanting to BS about new or unreleased products.....

I'm suprised when people think posts in the forms need to just be fact only....
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Well I think it stems from the after effects. Firstly, there's probably a hundred or more posts on the subject with maybe 90% of them saying the same thing (naturally). Then when someone comes on and asks for help on a PC, whatever it may be, someone quotes "wait for GX it will blow everyone away!" etc. The same or similar statement comes up in a GPU discussion or comparison as well, spreading more "FUD" or untruths or whatever you want to call it. That's where the irritation comes from, and people eat up the information like sheep without a second thought.

Lol, they can do that but I wish one of the Mods would just make a sticky of all the "info" on the card/core. However, sticky's are never made here and it will never happen and we'll get more and more threads. Next thing ya know the forums will get slow, again, and they'll have to restart/clean it out again lol :(.
 
Miscommunication said:
Well I think it stems from the after effects. Firstly, there's probably a hundred or more posts on the subject with maybe 90% of them saying the same thing (naturally). Then when someone comes on and asks for help on a PC, whatever it may be, someone quotes "wait for GX it will blow everyone away!" etc. The same or similar statement comes up in a GPU discussion or comparison as well, spreading more "FUD" or untruths or whatever you want to call it. That's where the irritation comes from, and people eat up the information like sheep without a second thought.

Lol, they can do that but I wish one of the Mods would just make a sticky of all the "info" on the card/core. However, sticky's are never made here and it will never happen and we'll get more and more threads. Next thing ya know the forums will get slow, again, and they'll have to restart/clean it out again lol :(.
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I just think it would be nice if people would put [RUMOR] or something in the thread titles, or if people could vote on threads to have stuff added to the title for the cases where new people post up threads, we could all vote it as a rumor or fact or bug or whatever and that would be added to the title :)
 
exactly. Its when someone posts a topic like this and makes it out like its a bloody press release, even including silly company logos, its just a waste of interweb that could have been used for armature porn.
 
Droc said:
exactly. Its when someone posts a topic like this and makes it out like its a bloody press release, even including silly company logos, its just a waste of interweb that could have been used for armature porn.
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You know what.....thanks for flaming.
 
I go the other way. I encourage people to have fun and get chatty, even it is is their opinion, and do not need them to include a headding of "rumor".

I think most people know on unreleased products everybody is guessing anyway....
 
TalonMan said:
I think most people know on unreleased products everybody is guessing anyway....
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Oh there's far more sheep out there, no disrespect to them personally, but many beleive it to be of fact. Just go visit Tom's forums sometime. No one knows everything and we all are wrong on one thing or another. All we can do is use not-so-common sense and look at the future objectively before coming to any major assumptions, that goes for everything, especially when it's not under our control.
 
The 9800 should work great on any PCIe-16x slot right? I am using a gigabyte DS3 motherboard.
 
Droc said:
no problem, happy to help.

Thanks for the topic anyways, lord knows we always need more unsupported speculation on teh interweb.
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He's doing his part. :D He posted the very same at NVNEWS

This part people missed the irony,
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New newz out

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/09...950gx2-priced/


Whoever posted that had his head under a rock. His sources are from February. Don't believe the lie, just because he posted this September 16, 2007
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if the card is released in november, i believe that it will be a updated 8800 with more shaders and dx10.1 support, and ofcourse on a 65nm it will be clocked way the heck up there and it should have a lot more features as hdmi and stuff. and i really dont believe twice as fast as 8800 ultra crap, because everyone has said that its improved 8800, unless ofcourse they slap it with twice as many shaders.

i have a very good feeling that the final build of crysis will be running pretty good on the 8800 series, and if it is i really dont see nvidia releasing a new product and i perfectly understand them trying to capture the oem market with 65nm and mid-mainstream parts.

and if it is twice the spedd of an ultra and coming in november than i am ready to sell my 8800gtx sli. lol
 
ScretHate said:
Socket 775. They're supported by the current P35 chipset.
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And the P965 and the 680i and the 650i and the 570SLI and the "Hybrid Up" frankenstein chipset in my board and the 975X and the 945 and the G33 and the G31. I bet some of the ATI chipset offerings will suport them, but I don't care to check.

There are reasons to get a P35 based board, but 45nm support is widespread so that is not one of them.

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Anyone know if current chipsets can be made to run penryn through BIOS updates?
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Yes. There has been a BIOS available for my board to support these chips for months, based on the ASUS 45nm page's listing of the version that supports the 45nm CPUs. Look at all those supported boards. Only 5 of them top out at 1066, too.
 
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