Abit IP35, OC 4 sticks of ram ok?

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DaConfusion

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I am building a new system with the following specs:

Intel Q6600 G0 $288.00
ABIT IP35 Pro $184.99
eVGA 8800GTX 768MB $519.99
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1gb x 2) DDR2 $109.99
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1gb x 2) DDR2 $109.99
Corsair CMPSU-620HX $139.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB $79.99
Cooler Master Mystique $75.00
Tuniq Tower HS120 $64.99
Samsung 18x DVD Burner $29.99
Thermaltake 80mm Case Fan $7.99
SILVERSTONE FM121 120mm $17.99
Artic Silver 5 $5.99

I am considering either installing 2x 2GB sticks that have a CL of 5 or 4x1GB sticks with CL 4. But I need to overclock these babies... I have heard a problem with the fourth module not receiving sufficient power. Will this be an issue with the Abit? Have any other type of memory to suggest?

Thanks
 
I haven't heard of any problems. I know the memory controller is somewhat better on the P35 boards, especially with 4 dimms, but if there's a problem with power getting to the 4th slot, I haven't heard about it yet (obviously doesn't mean there can't be a problem ;) ). FWIW, I run 4 dimms on a G33 board.
 
Well here you are......

I have an Abit IP35 Pro with a Q6600 GO running perfectly stable on air @ 3600 with 4 gig.

You WILL need very good memory.
I'm using.....

I Tried
Patriot Extreme Performance PC2-6400 memory ...to slow!
OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 / 800 MHz / Reaper HPC Edition..to slow!
and found
Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 (DDR2 1066) @ 1000 (5-5-5-15) to be perfect..lights are kinda cheezy but that was what was on sale.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping Kentsfield 2.40GHz 8MB L2 LGA 775 Processor Retail BX80562Q6600 SLACR
Bus speed 400 (Quad pumped 1600)

Vcore 1.422
DDR2 2.30 (DDR2 Ref +2%)

2 Seagate 500 Sata II's using AHCI
2 Liteon 20x sata

Dual boot Vista Ultimate 32/64

Antec 900
Thermaltake ToughPower 600w
Sunbeam Tuniq Tower 120 CPU cooler (lapped)

This is by far the fastest system I've ever built and I've been overclocking since the sweet celeron 300@450 days.

Each component was bought on sale at various stores both net and brick over a months time. I had bought a Q6600 b3 @ Frys but jumped on the GO's @ ClubiT and was able to go from 3400 to 3600 just with a stepping change.

I hope this post saves a few of you the hours I spent testing, tweaking, and taking stuff back.

PT in Las Vegas
 
BAH! I just ordered 2 kits of Patriot's 2GB memory (exact ones you're talking about) :( . Is the performance difference noticeable and if so, how much? Benchies :D
 
If you plan any severe overclocking you will run outta room due to memory speed. As you increase your FSB the mem speeds are increased by preset ratios in bios. I could not get the Pat mem any higher than the very low 900's YMMV but I found you need to run 1000's or better to fully realise the abilitys of the Q6600.

PT

ps The Pat memory I tried was 2 sticks of 2 gig each.
 
I know that Corsair's yellowbeard tends to recommend 2x 2Gb DIMMs as opposed to 4x 1Gb.
 
4*1 works fine for overclocked to 3ghz was a piece of cake, but that's not really stressing the ram or motherboard, as it just takes it up to its stock speed.
 
I tried the IP35 Pro with 4GB of Ballistix and a G0, and I couldn't even get 3ghz stable. Bought a DQ6 and I am at 3.6ghz 100% stable.
 
Dethred said:
I tried the IP35 Pro with 4GB of Ballistix and a G0, and I couldn't even get 3ghz stable. Bought a DQ6 and I am at 3.6ghz 100% stable.
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strange IP35 Pro works great here with 4x1GB Ballistix @1020Mhz , have not had a single issue whatsoever.
 
You only need DDR2-800 to get a Q6600 to 3.6Ghz... buying DDR2-1066 just to run it at DDR2-800 doesn't make any sense to me. You won't notice the difference between CL4 and CL5 enough to make the price premium worth it, imo.

OC'ing with 4 sticks is a bit harder, because all 4 sticks need to be stable, at their rated speed at the least, and be fed with adequate voltage from the memory controller. I'd suggest goin with 2x2GB instead.
 
Dethred said:
I tried the IP35 Pro with 4GB of Ballistix and a G0, and I couldn't even get 3ghz stable. Bought a DQ6 and I am at 3.6ghz 100% stable.
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Probably not representative as you are failing to mention that everybody was telling you that you had a faulty board & to RMA it
 
primet said:
If you plan any severe overclocking you will run outta room due to memory speed. As you increase your FSB the mem speeds are increased by preset ratios in bios. I could not get the Pat mem any higher than the very low 900's YMMV but I found you need to run 1000's or better to fully realise the abilitys of the Q6600.

PT

ps The Pat memory I tried was 2 sticks of 2 gig each.
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I'm testing out one of the patriot kits right now, but so far so good. I'll test the other one later. Currently running memtest @1032mhz 5-5-4-13 1T 2.2v. I'm satisfied as of now especially with the price.

I must thank enginurd for the help he gave me in my other thread. The whole 1:1 was the secret of the century :D
 
no prob. here's the info, if anyone needs it:


You don't need DDR2-1066 with a Q6600:
(CPU Multiplier) x [Base FSB speed] = CPU Clock speed
2 x [Base FSB speed] = RAM speed
4 x [Base FSB speed] = Effective FSB speed

On Intel platforms, running the RAM higher than a 1:1 ratio with the CPU is useless. Keep it linked at 1:1:

Q6600: 9 * 266 = 2.4Ghz, DDR2-533 << STOCK speeds
Q6600: 9 * 333 = 3.0Ghz, DDR2-667 << Nice OC
Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC, near max on good air
Q6600: 9 * 500 = 4.5Ghz, DDR2-1066 << you'll need phase change, I dont think WC is enough for this. though, you'll need more luck than anything.

Theres also no point in dropping the CPU multiplier and pushing a higher FSB speed, since quadcores don't like high FSB speeds. On intel platforms, running an unlinked config yields no real performance gains.
 
I have a question about the Ballistix Tracer ram. I went to their home page and used their compatability finder on the Abit IP35 Pro board. This page comes up:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=IP35 Pro&pl=ABIT&cat=RAM

If I decide that I would want 8GB of memory, and due to me wanting to overclock it, I figure I would get it on 2 sticks, insted of 4.

The top entry: 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module
CT2KIT25664AA80E runs on 1.8v, unlike most of the others that run on 2.2v.

Wich one is better, and do they really both work fine with the Abit IP35 Pro board?

Is the only draw back to gettin 8GB of ram on 2 sticks price?
 
TalonMan said:
I have a question about the Ballistix Tracer ram. I went to their home page and used their compatability finder on the Abit IP35 Pro board. This page comes up:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=IP35 Pro&pl=ABIT&cat=RAM

If I decide that I would want 8GB of memory, and due to me wanting to overclock it, I figure I would get it on 2 sticks, insted of 4.

The top entry: 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module
CT2KIT25664AA80E runs on 1.8v, unlike most of the others that run on 2.2v.

Wich one is better, and do they really both work fine with the Abit IP35 Pro board?

Is the only draw back to gettin 8GB of ram on 2 sticks price?
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I don't see any 8GB (2x4GB) kits in any of your links, and I'm a bit confused as to which kits you are asking for a comparison. All of the 8GB kits I've seen on Crucial's DDR2 webpage are Buffered ECC, which won't work in most desktop motherboards. Buffered ECC ram is mainy used for workstations and servers.

So, if you're asking which of the two is better for the IP35 Pro, a 4GB kit or an 8GB kit, it would have to be the 4GB UNBuffered Non-ECC kit, since it won't support the 8GB Buffered ECC kit.

This is the only 8GB kit I found on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144074

And yes, the main drawback to that kit is its price. The IP35Pro doesnt really have a problem powering 4 sticks of ram like the 680i boards, so your best option is 2x 4GB kits, since the board's max capacity is 8GB. Though, the after rebate price of that geil kit is similar to two 4GB kits.

What bugs me is... typically, in the past, when a board supports X amount of ram, the max for a single DIMM was X/2... but I don't see that limitation in the IP35 Manual, so that may not be the case here.
 
I don't know about Crucial's ram, but the Ballistix Tracer sounds like it is a good match for the the Abit IP35 Pro board for overclocking..

I thought the 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module CT2KIT25664AA80E DDR2 PC2-6400 &#8226; CL=5 &#8226; Unbuffered &#8226; NON-ECC &#8226; DDR2-800 &#8226; 1.8V &#8226; 256Meg x 64, for $589.99 (Top entry on the page) was 2 chips connected togeather, taking only 1 memory slot. http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=IP35 Pro&pl=ABIT&cat=RAM

I see It must be 2 seperate chips, taking both slots.

So, if this is correct: Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC, near max on good air, and I want to use Ballistix Tracer ram, I would need this kit?

2GB kit (1GBx2) BL2KIT12864AA804 DDR2 PC2-6400 &#8226; 4-4-4-12 &#8226; Unbuffered &#8226; NON-ECC &#8226; DDR2-800 &#8226; 2.2V &#8226; SLI-Ready &#8226; 128Meg x 64

This kit is also unbuffered too but 4GB but is 1.8v:

4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module CT2KIT25664AA80E DDR2 PC2-6400 &#8226; CL=5 &#8226; Unbuffered &#8226; NON-ECC &#8226; DDR2-800 &#8226; 1.8V &#8226; 256Meg x 64

So both kits would work in the Abit IP35 Pro?

I still am not sure if the mobo cares if it's 2.2v or 1.8v, and is there a performance difference?
 
DaConfusion said:
I am building a new system with the following specs:

Intel Q6600 G0 $288.00
ABIT IP35 Pro $184.99
eVGA 8800GTX 768MB $519.99
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1gb x 2) DDR2 $109.99
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1gb x 2) DDR2 $109.99
Corsair CMPSU-620HX $139.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB $79.99
Cooler Master Mystique $75.00
Tuniq Tower HS120 $64.99
Samsung 18x DVD Burner $29.99
Thermaltake 80mm Case Fan $7.99
SILVERSTONE FM121 120mm $17.99
Artic Silver 5 $5.99
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Question #1: Where is your secondary storage drive??
 
enginurd said:
no prob. here's the info, if anyone needs it:


You don't need DDR2-1066 with a Q6600:
(CPU Multiplier) x [Base FSB speed] = CPU Clock speed
2 x [Base FSB speed] = RAM speed
4 x [Base FSB speed] = Effective FSB speed

On Intel platforms, running the RAM higher than a 1:1 ratio with the CPU is useless. Keep it linked at 1:1:

Q6600: 9 * 266 = 2.4Ghz, DDR2-533 << STOCK speeds
Q6600: 9 * 333 = 3.0Ghz, DDR2-667 << Nice OC
Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC, near max on good air
Q6600: 9 * 500 = 4.5Ghz, DDR2-1066 << you'll need phase change, I dont think WC is enough for this. though, you'll need more luck than anything.

Theres also no point in dropping the CPU multiplier and pushing a higher FSB speed, since quadcores don't like high FSB speeds. On intel platforms, running an unlinked config yields no real performance gains.
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GREAT POST THANKS! :D

But I have a question, should I be running my ddr2 in my sig below at which of the following (from another post:) for my ip35:

The memory dividers relate to memory straps accordingly: 1:1 and 1:1.2 relate to 1333MHz, 1:1.25 and 1:1.15 relate to 1066MHz and 1:1.66 and 1:1.2 relate to 800MHz FSB CPUs.

Does that mean I should set my settings to 1:1.66 ((I don't have my board yet, so I'm assuming there is a setting for all these timings in the bios for the ip35).

thanks,
 
enginurd said:
You don't need DDR2-1066 with a Q6600:
(CPU Multiplier) x [Base FSB speed] = CPU Clock speed
2 x [Base FSB speed] = RAM speed
4 x [Base FSB speed] = Effective FSB speed

On Intel platforms, running the RAM higher than a 1:1 ratio with the CPU is useless. Keep it linked at 1:1:

Q6600: 9 * 266 = 2.4Ghz, DDR2-533 << STOCK speeds
Q6600: 9 * 333 = 3.0Ghz, DDR2-667 << Nice OC
Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC, near max on good air
Q6600: 9 * 500 = 4.5Ghz, DDR2-1066 << you'll need phase change, I dont think WC is enough for this. though, you'll need more luck than anything.
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just a reminder that the P35 chipset doesn't support 533 RAM unlike e.g. 965.
 
oozish said:
GREAT POST THANKS! :D

But I have a question, should I be running my ddr2 in my sig below at which of the following (from another post:) for my ip35:

The memory dividers relate to memory straps accordingly: 1:1 and 1:1.2 relate to 1333MHz, 1:1.25 and 1:1.15 relate to 1066MHz and 1:1.66 and 1:1.2 relate to 800MHz FSB CPUs.

Does that mean I should set my settings to 1:1.66 ((I don't have my board yet, so I'm assuming there is a setting for all these timings in the bios for the ip35).

thanks,
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1:1. You should have no problems reaching 400FSB even 500. At 400FSB your memory will run at DDR2-800. Then all you have to do is overclock the FSB some more or change the multiplier. Enginurd's post showed it best, I'm just trying to explain it. The biggest tip I can give you is not to think about this too much. Wait t'll you get the board, you'll see how easy it is. Thinking about it will only confuse you more and more.;)
 
oozish said:
But I have a question, should I be running my ddr2 in my sig below at which of the following (from another post:) for my ip35:

The memory dividers relate to memory straps accordingly: 1:1 and 1:1.2 relate to 1333MHz, 1:1.25 and 1:1.15 relate to 1066MHz and 1:1.66 and 1:1.2 relate to 800MHz FSB CPUs.
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I'm not sure about the text from another post, so link me. Though, your sig seems fine. Your board is on the 1066Mhz strap, so if you don't have explicit control over your RAM multiplier, your RAM speed options will be based off of the 1066 strap.

If you do have control, just set your base FSB at 400 and your RAM multiplier at 2x, which would be DDR2-800.

BUFF said:
just a reminder that the P35 chipset doesn't support 533 RAM unlike e.g. 965.
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Yah, but for any desktop/gaming system, DDR2-533 just isn't worth buying these days, especially since DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 are so comparable, price-wise.
 
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