Xtreme Low Q6600 G0 Temp on Air !!! (Lots of Pics)

unclewebb said:
My Tuniq Tower is a decent air cooler but no one can argue with a well screwed down Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme or its little brother the Thermalright Ultra-120.
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Word. My Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme is well screwed down without any modification to the mounting. However lapping its base is strongly recommended for max heat dispensing capability.

wasupdog said:
the best coolers are the tuniq tower and ultra 120 extreme. get a good fan too.
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Lapped Ultra120 X gets my volt :)

Unknown Soldier said:
My 3.4Ghz was done at 1.4650v(bios) but youcan see in the pic that it hit 1.440v. The 3.5Ghz was done at 1.4850v(bios) and was at 1.46xx during testing.

I thought the 9700 Zalman was a top of the range air cooler. Which cooler do you think is better?

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Looks alright so far and G0 runs very cool so you actually don't need the absolute best cooling to make the OC shine. If you've decent motherboard like Asus P5K-Dlx to go with the G0 Quad, you'll have better OC stability and possibly requires less volts than what you're reporting now. When I had my Q6600 G0 OC'ed to 3600MHz stage, I need much lesser volts than what you've set for yours to get to 3.4GHz.
 
Can't say that the Scyth Infinity is realy far (0.5C) behind.

Keep it in my nxt Q6600 System. :)

Euro 245,- CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (S775, 4x 2.4GHz, 8MB, 1066MHz FSB, Boxed) prijzen
Euro 135,- MOBO: Asus P5KC - P35 chipset - Dual-channel DDR2 1066/800/667 MHz or DDR3 1333/1066/800
Euro 155,- Mushkin DDR2 XP2-8500 Dual Channel 2048 MB, PC8500, 1066 MHz, 5, Non-ECC, Kit Of 2
Euro 200,- HD: = 4 x Euro 50,- HD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10, 320GB (7200rpm, SATA II, 16MB, NCQ, RoHS)
Euro 155,- House & PSU - Antec Titan 650 (E-ATX, 650W PSU included)
Euro 50,- Asus VGA GeForce EN7300GT Silent 256 MB, PCI-e 16x
Euro 30,- Lite-On DVD-RW LH-20A1S S-ATA.
Euro 10,- Floppy Drive

Total: Euro 980,-
 
Tiramisu, do you mind taking a picture of your case (innards)? I'm interested to see the airflow of the computer as I'm building hopefully early this week. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
FSB 470 * 8 @ 3760MHz 8Hrs+ LargeFFT Prime Stable - Final stable OC in the summer season.


As per requested, here's the 8Hrs+ LargeFFT Prime Stable screenshot at your disposal :cool:
LargeFFT Stress test is known to output the maximum heat, power consumption and stress to the entire system.
P5K-Dlx, Q6600 G0 and Ballistix Tracers all sustained the long 8Hrs+ torture at the given voltage : clock speed :cool:
For reference purposes, I have also attached the 8Hrs+ SmallFFT Prime stable screenshot below for you to see "a noticeable difference in the LOAD Vcore".
It appears that LargeFFT does actually puts out more stress so the Vcore further drops down to 1.4720v from 1.4800 OCCASIONALLY.
Whereas in SmallFFT, the load Vcore always remained at 1.4800 flat throughout the 8Hrs+ Prime.
So both results yields that the system is rock stable with its current OC settings :up: and I must say it again - What a FANTASTIC OC result on air :D :cool:

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Finally the moment you all have being waiting for: Complete Asus P5K-Deluxe BIOS Configuration. FYI:)


Please feel free to use it for your reference. The configurations shown above may not be 100% identical for all cases.
You're welcome;)

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Strap to Northbridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 470
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1175
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 7
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLE
Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: (only displays when Transaction Booster is set to Disable or Enabled)
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Voltage: 1.5250
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.7
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: x0.67
South Bridge Voltage: 1.2
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabaled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabaled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabaled
CPU TM Function: Disabaled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
PECI: Enabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)
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ok talk to me, i am a litte freaked out here. I decided to install my quad with the stock cooler and toy around until my Thermalrigth arrives on Wed.

I am using speedfan 4.32 like you and it only shows two cores, task manager only shows two cores. The only app that shows 4 cores is core temp and its not showing any temps it just says number of cores 4 and my vid and fequecny. I am at stock speeds right now

Prime95 only shows 2 cores

What gives?
 
Problem solved, I had to enable core 3 and 4 in the bios:D


2.93 stock volts on stock cooler, 48c , 47,42,41 on the cores, I cannot wait till the ultra cooler shows Ambient room temp 74 degrees F

I am realy in the 60;s of course do to the differential. The Core temp app shows one fo my cores at 68c with 4 prime95 instances running.
 
The vCore is 1.65v in the BIOS and 1.55v actual. Temp shot up to 79°c at times. Prime stable for about 2-1/2 hours and still going. Ambient is pretty high, about 81°F. I think this is a good speed for the winter season.
Using Tira's formula to calculate the wattage used, it's about 240watts. My Swiftech triple rad and the Apogee GTX should be more then capable of handling, but for some reason, temp is way high. Maybe the AS5 needs a couple of days more to work better. Got to rethink my water set up.

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Waterboy: That looks like a good 24/7 overclock to me. 79C is a big core number but that's still 21C away from the throttling point so you don't have to worry about anything if you're running stable. The THERMTRIP# shut down point is at least another 20C hotter than the throttling point so you still have lots of head room without having to worry about hurting anything.

Do you have any software that you'll be using which is going to fully use all 4 cores the way Prime does? If not, then after you're done testing your Quad will never see the high 70C range again. Find a game to play and when you're done playing head back to the desktop and open up the chart feature in SpeedFan and post a picture of what your cores have been running at. Most users are surprised how cool their processors run normal applications compared to running Prime on all 4 cores. Very nice OC by the way. :cool:
 
can anybody take a picture of their innards? I'm really interested to see the general consensus on where to put the fans on their Thermalright Ultra 120 and airflow in general. I'm sure someone's willing to show off their hard(ware) work ;)
 
pooMonger said:
can anybody take a picture of their innards? I'm really interested to see the general consensus on where to put the fans on their Thermalright Ultra 120 and airflow in general. I'm sure someone's willing to show off their hard(ware) work ;)
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i would like to see that too.
 
I will be posting lots of picks once I get my cooler, I can do it here with the permision of the op or start another thread.

I figure to be up and runing with the Ultra tomorrow night if the cooler shows when its supposed to
 
It always useful when you are reporting CPU temps, to note your ambient room temperature.

Also, as it has already been noted, some programs report much lower numbers than others.
 
Tiramisu! Where have you gone? I am so used to seeing atleast 4 posts a day by you in this wonderful thread you have created! I miss you so!
 
pooMonger said:
Tiramisu! Where have you gone? I am so used to seeing atleast 4 posts a day by you in this wonderful thread you have created! I miss you so!
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You'll see me doing another review similar to this one I've in the next few days :)
I'll be testing the new P5K-Premium (Black Pearl) and the existing Q6600 G0 + Ballistix Tracers 8500 I've. I'll be including a 4x1GB OC results as well. P5K-Dlx 4x1GB OC results didn't impressive me as much as everything else so I hope the Black Pearl will do better in this area.
 
I love it when people like to share stuff like this in such depth, always makes for a good read. Great chip and great thread man, keep it up. :)
 
I just got a Q6600 and have a TR Ultra Extreme on it.

Now I was wondering if the heatsink is suppose to dissipate enough heat that the heatsink is suppose to get hot to the touch. I can currently run the cpu at around 40-50 deg Celcius, touch the heatsink, and it feels pretty much cool to the touch, basically, equal to the interior temp of the case. I lapped the heatsink, and am using arctic silver paste. I think I might have to reapply the paste.
 
dannyd86: Your body temp is 37C so if your cpu is running at a core temp of 40C then the heat sink should feel cool to the touch. It won't feel anything like the heatsink on the northbridge which can get up to 70C when it doesn't have a fan on it. Your temperatures are great so get overclocking that new processor and post some pics.
 
unclewebb said:
dannyd86: Your body temp is 37C so if your cpu is running at a core temp of 40C then the heat sink should feel cool to the touch. It won't feel anything like the heatsink on the northbridge which can get up to 70C when it doesn't have a fan on it. Your temperatures are great so get overclocking that new processor and post some pics.
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Thanks. Oh, also, I forgot to mention that those temps are from speedfan, so +15 = around 60 degress celsius, and heatsink feels cool. Should it still feel cool at 60deg C?

Another question. I am going to begin overclocking, I am looking for at most 3.0GHz. What do you think is the max temp that I should run this CPU at?
 
dannyd86 said:
Thanks. Oh, also, I forgot to mention that those temps are from speedfan, so +15 = around 60 degress celsius, and heatsink feels cool. Should it still feel cool at 60deg C?

Yous should run that CPU to about 70C at highest, that's just under intel thermal spec. I figure if your stock load temps are 60C you might not have too high of head room for OCing. Let us know though.
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dannyd86 said:
What do you think is the max temp that I should run this CPU at?
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You don't have to worry about this. Run it as hard and as fast as you like. If it's not stable then back it off. If it runs stable and it's not throttling then you don't have to worry about absolute temperatures. These processors do a great job of looking after themselves and people worry way too much about how hot they're running. It's just a number.

With CoreTemp 0.95 you can set it in the Options to show you the Delta to the maximum junction temperature. That shows you how much head room you have until the processor will begin to throttle itself and slow down. Beyond the throttling point, there is still more than 20C of headroom before the processor will get so hot that it will shut down. When overclocking you'll never be able to get near these temperatures without losing stability and likely rebooting so you don't have to worry. As long as your Prime stable, the temperatures are unimportant.

JM001: that's just under intel thermal spec
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You need to read that spec. The spec is for a case temperature which is not what CoreTemp or SpeedFan or TAT are reporting.
 
unclewebb said:
You don't have to worry about this. Run it as hard and as fast as you like. If it's not stable then back it off. If it runs stable and it's not throttling then you don't have to worry about absolute temperatures. These processors do a great job of looking after themselves and people worry way too much about how hot they're running. It's just a number.

With CoreTemp 0.95 you can set it in the Options to show you the Delta to the maximum junction temperature. That shows you how much head room you have until the processor will begin to throttle itself and slow down. Beyond the throttling point, there is still more than 20C of headroom before the processor will get so hot that it will shut down. When overclocking you'll never be able to get near these temperatures without losing stability and likely rebooting so you don't have to worry. As long as your Prime stable, the temperatures are unimportant.
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I agree 90% with the above, but the caveat I have is voltage... extremely high voltages (relatively speaking) can also damage electrical components over time. I'm not an electrical engineer (or any sort of engineer :) ), but just from all of my reading over the years, my personal preference and advice would be not to run 1.6v+ on a 24/7 basis. There's usually not any need to do that to begin with (to make your e-mail scream?) and it can shorten the life of your hardware, unnecessarily.

Someone more knowledgable than me on the subject is welcome to explain to me why I'm full of shit, but until then, I'll fall on the side of caution.
 
Spanki: I agree with you 100% about excessive core voltage. Intel recommends that you keep core voltage at 1.50 volts or less for long term reliable use and I always stick to that guideline. Their absolute maximum is 1.55 volts but not for 24/7 use.

Here's what Intel says about running your processor over 1.50 volts but less than 1.55 volts:

"At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute maximum
and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected."

To clear things up, it's important to keep your processor below the throttling point and it's also important to keep the core voltage within the Intel spec. If you do both then your processor should last you a life time. You'll get bored with it long before it ever craps out.
 
Wow that is quite a achievement. Looks amazing. I hope I get mine this month.
 
To Everyone:

I just bought the 18th Anniversary Asus P5K-Premium "Black Pearl" and I'll be starting a new thread similar like this. The OC testing methodology will be very much the same as this one. 90% of the OC results are going to be based on Prime 25.3 and the rest 10% will be Max FSB and Suicide Max Screen, etc.

I'll be testing the new mobo with the existing golden Q6600 G0 and Ballistix Tracers 8500. My goal will be seeking for better OC-ability in 4x1GB configuration, hopefully. This is probably the only area I've to point out that P5K-Deluxe didn't impress me much but it didn't disappoint me either. I'll be expecting the Black Pearl to deliver lower temp and greater OC-stability at higher OC'ed state.

You guys should see the new thread by the end of tomorrow.

Looking forward to see you all participating in the upcomming new thread. :)


Sorry for the poor quality pics
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I just got mine G0 in and lapped it along with the Scythe Ninja Rev B.
My settings are 1.40Volts on the Cpu and nothing else changed voltage wise.
My fsb is running at 370x9
 
Do you notice much of a difference in performace when OCing to 3.0 than stock speeds?
 
new record??? that cpu IS NOT STABLE!!!!! that cpu cant even make the hardocp overclocking database.:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, that maybe true but I still think it is some record at least a new OC figure even if it is not stable. And it Happened here on Hardforum which makes me more enthusiastic.
Cause than you know that these dudes are at least keen to get some OC here.

And I am not the kinda guy who thinks about to wreck my CPU by setting it on Orthos for a week.

My sense of stable is more like 15-25 minutes cause that's the time I stress my CPU at the max in day to day situation. Maybe some of you guys do longer stress with video or something.

Still nice to see the figure 4.1 next to the Q6600 ->>>|:).

But stable OC's are more good I agree.
 
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