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LOL..... it is only a matter of time before all becomes clear.
 
LOL..... it is only a matter of time before all becomes clear.

Funny that you chime into comment when all of your socalled facts, theories and arguments got shot to hell when you had your brief cameo appearance over on XS.

Keep preaching to the uninformed Rick, it's the only stage time you'll ever get.
 
Funny that you chime into comment when all of your socalled facts, theories and arguments got shot to hell when you had your brief cameo appearance over on XS.

Where are the "socalled fact, theroies, and arguements" that got shot down? I only saw the thread get locked and not because of people at [H]......

Kinda funny though.

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Where are the "socalled fact, theroies, and arguements" that got shot down? I only saw the thread get locked and not because of people at [H]......

Kinda funny though.

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LOL. It got locked because of the flaming that went on. You fail to mention that all of your (and like minded "low flow performs just as well as high flow" cult members) "theories" and "facts" got shot down by most of the forum throughout that thread.
 
LOL. It got locked because of the flaming that went on. You fail to mention that all of your (and like minded "low flow performs just as well as high flow" cult members) "theories" and "facts" got shot down by most of the forum throughout that thread.

It got locked because of a couple of guys went on a circle jerk together, and had pretty much nothing to do with the thread.
 
I think this thread pretty much sums up this whole issue about what the high flow cult is really about. :p

So I am sure then by your point of view all MacGeeks must be judged by the Newton, all PC users by Windows ME, all Ford drivers by the Pinto, so on and so forth.

One company releasing one product does not equate to being analagous to the way an entire group of people acts, thinks, and believes. But you keep spraying your misinformation and FUD if it makes you feel better.
 
So I am sure then by your point of view all MacGeeks must be judged by the Newton, all PC users by Windows ME, all Ford drivers by the Pinto, so on and so forth.

One company releasing one product does not equate to being analagous to the way an entire group of people acts, thinks, and believes. But you keep spraying your misinformation and FUD if it makes you feel better.

Your one of the better ones so that comment wasn't intended for you. However, you have to admit that there are plenty of people around here for whom my comment was definitely appropriate.
 
Your one of the better ones so that comment wasn't intended for you. However, you have to admit that there are plenty of people around here for whom my comment was definitely appropriate.

No I don't. I think your comment was entirely inappropriate. If you have a problem with certain people take it to a PM. Please dont post widespread slander across an entire group of people. It is posts, and attitudes like that which promote animosity between people with differing views. It might be interesting to artificially inject drama where none is needed, but ultimately becomes tiresome and produces no valuable or useful effects. Posts like that, or others in this thread (by you and others) are what is wrong with this forum.

For example, when you add someone to your ignore list, just add them to you ignore list. There is absolutely zero reason to make a post which says "someone just made my twit list" other than to try and provoke and create more pointless drama.
 
For example, when you add someone to your ignore list, just add them to you ignore list. There is absolutely zero reason to make a post which says "someone just made my twit list" other than to try and provoke and create more pointless drama.

It actually shows the people who argue to argue, which we seem to have a recent influx of......
 
It actually shows the people who argue to argue, which we seem to have a recent influx of......

No, your stirred up a hornet's nest when you tried to push your unproven claims that "low flow is better or as good as high flow" theories. They're just here to set the record straight and inform you and your cult that you're wrong.

Anyhow, interesting that you said its a recent influx. TN's been called out by a few people for her love of flame baiting.
 
.... your unproven claims that "low flow is better or as good as high flow" theories. They're just here to set the record straight and inform you and your cult that you're wrong.........

seems to me that the most "cultish" group is the high flowers. Don't get me wrong, I think there are dipshits on both sides, just when it comes to fanatics, the high flowers seem to have the higher population.

Low flow works just fine for most of my uses, when i have a specific need for high flow, then i'll go high flow. Guys like you just make yourself out to be asses when you put down low flow folks. Think low flow sucks? Fine, maybe it does suck for what you want to accomplish. But there are plenty of situations where low flow works just as good as high flow, so what's the fucking point of this bullshit religious war?:rolleyes: How about you enjoy your garden hose/jet noise but supreme OCing setup, and we'll enjoy our neater, quieter, but not as OCing setups, w/o either side having the retarded impulse to talk needless shit.

Christ, some of you guys act like high school girls:rolleyes:
 
seems to me that the most "cultish" group is the high flowers. Don't get me wrong, I think there are dipshits on both sides, just when it comes to fanatics, the high flowers seem to have the higher population.

Low flow works just fine for most of my uses, when i have a specific need for high flow, then i'll go high flow. Guys like you just make yourself out to be asses when you put down low flow folks. Think low flow sucks? Fine, maybe it does suck for what you want to accomplish. But there are plenty of situations where low flow works just as good as high flow, so what's the fucking point of this bullshit religious war?:rolleyes: How about you enjoy your garden hose/jet noise but supreme OCing setup, and we'll enjoy our neater, quieter, but not as OCing setups, w/o either side having the retarded impulse to talk needless shit.

Christ, some of you guys act like high school girls:rolleyes:

Exactly the kind of comments designed to provoke controversy....completed ruined what was a good post.
 
Anyhow, interesting that you said its a recent influx. TN's been called out by a few people for her love of flame baiting.

Sorry but that wasn't intended for me as I have been on this forum since November 2003. I think he meant you. :p
 
Exactly the kind of comments designed to provoke controversy....completed ruined what was a good post.

i see your point, but it was not meant in a derogatory way. I guess perception is everything. If I ever decided to go high flow, I'd proudly refer to my "garden hose/jet fan" setup, and that was the sprit of those words. Not negative or derogatory in any way, at least in my mind as I wrote them. Unfortunetely, sometimes what I'm feeling or thinking doesn't get conveyed in the post. That's the case here.:eek:
 
i see your point, but it was not meant in a derogatory way. I guess perception is everything. If I ever decided to go high flow, I'd proudly refer to my "garden hose/jet fan" setup, and that was the sprit of those words. Not negative or derogatory in any way, at least in my mind as I wrote them. Unfortunetely, sometimes what I'm feeling or thinking doesn't get conveyed in the post. That's the case here.:eek:

You guys do know that tube size has nothing to do with noise right? Same with waterblocks.

Just a friendly service reminder.

There's a reason why a bunch of us love Thermochill PA radiators. They can dissipate more heat at a faster rate than other radiators and were built around low CFM fans.

Moving parts generate noise. Waterblocks and tubing don't.
 
i think, ranker, that comment was a generalization about high-flow setups. Generally, they are used with louder fans, pushing more CFM, cooling better, than low flow, which is nearly always quiet fans, low CFM and less cooling.
 
i think, ranker, that comment was a generalization about high-flow setups. Generally, they are used with louder fans, pushing more CFM, cooling better, than low flow, which is nearly always quiet fans, low CFM and less cooling.

I use Thermochill PA radiators for a reason. So I can run low speed AND undervolted Yates and still dissipate the same amount of heat that radiators of different manufacturers that require higher CFM.

But nevertheless, fan speed and CFM is a totally different topic. None of which has anything to do with 1/2" ID vs 1/128" ID debate.
 
You guys do know that tube size has nothing to do with noise right? Same with waterblocks.

Just a friendly service reminder.

There's a reason why a bunch of us love Thermochill PA radiators. They can dissipate more heat at a faster rate than other radiators and were built around low CFM fans.

Moving parts generate noise. Waterblocks and tubing don't.

this pretty much shows you're not really in for reasoned discussion, but just to argue. I never said WB and tubing create noise:rolleyes:
 
i think, ranker, that comment was a generalization about high-flow setups. Generally, they are used with louder fans, pushing more CFM, cooling better, than low flow, which is nearly always quiet fans, low CFM and less cooling.

You couldn't be further from the truth IMHO, at least for all the people that I know of anyways. I'd be willing to bet their (and mine) high flow systems are just as quiet (if not quietier) than any of the low flow systems out there.........:eek:
 
You couldn't be further from the truth IMHO, at least for all the people that I know of anyways. I'd be willing to bet their (and mine) high flow systems are just as quiet (if not quietier) than any of the low flow systems out there.........:eek:

*sigh* godamn but you people sure know how to distort the fuck outta things sometimes.:(

NEVER said high flow was ALWAYS "louder", just that when those who are fanatics about high flow AND use their systems for the last nth degree eek out, those folks tend to run thier fans faster in order to eek out that last little bit.

godamn i feel like rodney....

can't we...um...can't we all jus' get along??:p
 
*sigh* godamn but you people sure know how to distort the fuck outta things sometimes.:(

NEVER said high flow was ALWAYS "louder", just that when those who are fanatics about high flow AND use their systems for the last nth degree eek out, those folks tend to run thier fans faster in order to eek out that last little bit.

godamn i feel like rodney....

can't we...um...can't we all jus' get along??:p

Well say what you mean............God damn it............:eek:
 
wow, didn't know everything was such a huge-ass debate when going water cooling... I thought you just add H2O to your system and you're considered an enthusiast :D

Ok not really... but you know....
 
Watch it or some of the Swiftech/D-Tek cult Mafioso types may set you up for a beating. :eek: ;)

Be more original rather than biting off what I labeled as the AC Mafia.

seems to me that the most "cultish" group is the high flowers. Don't get me wrong, I think there are dipshits on both sides, just when it comes to fanatics, the high flowers seem to have the higher population.

Low flow works just fine for most of my uses, when i have a specific need for high flow, then i'll go high flow. Guys like you just make yourself out to be asses when you put down low flow folks. Think low flow sucks? Fine, maybe it does suck for what you want to accomplish. But there are plenty of situations where low flow works just as good as high flow, so what's the fucking point of this bullshit religious war?:rolleyes: How about you enjoy your garden hose/jet noise but supreme OCing setup, and we'll enjoy our neater, quieter, but not as OCing setups, w/o either side having the retarded impulse to talk needless shit.

Christ, some of you guys act like high school girls:rolleyes:

this pretty much shows you're not really in for reasoned discussion, but just to argue. I never said WB and tubing create noise:rolleyes:

So the association of garden hose/jet noise is just mentioned randomly?

And then claiming your AC setups are neater, QUIETER...

Nice try.
 
Be more original rather than biting off what I labeled as the AC Mafia.

If the glove fits you must convict. :p

You all know how much I like car racing analogies, right? I always just thought it was a nice explanation, but lately I am thinking that all the high flow people really are into high performance motor sports. First there was the Edelbrock Swiftech block and now we have this pic:



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You couldn't be further from the truth IMHO, at least for all the people that I know of anyways. I'd be willing to bet their (and mine) high flow systems are just as quiet (if not quieter) than any of the low flow systems out there.

Nice try, but no cigar.

Big pumps make more noise than smaller pumps as the noise comes from the size of the motor and the impeller. BTW, silence is the goal and I can hear a pin drop on the floor.

Hope ya don't mind me cleaning up you grammar. ;)
 
lol Top Nurse, is that an Ultra Wizard? And did your door break off too? I bought that, brought it home and let my brother borrow it because I put my older computer into that case. I go over to his place like 3 days later and the case has no door on it...
 
That's a Chieftec Dragon. The door hinges are made of plastic, and only swing 180 degrees; if you swing it too much, the hinge will snap, and you'll be left without a door.
 
Nice try, but no cigar.

Big pumps make more noise than smaller pumps as the noise comes from the size of the motor and the impeller. BTW, silence is the goal and I can hear a pin drop on the floor.

Hope ya don't mind me cleaning up you grammar. ;)

So what sort of monstrosities do you imagine people use in their setups? The majority of the people I know use either Laing pumps, 50z's, or Eheim's. If you're talking about size, nothing is smaller than a DDC or a D-Tek DB-1 pump. The DDC-1 is on par with noise of my Eheims. The quietest pump is the DB-1.
 
from your sig...

CPU Loop: Iwaki RD-30 -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Yate Loon D12SL-12) -> Apogee GTX CPU -> Swiftech mcres-micro reservoir with G1/4" tap
 
from your sig...

CPU Loop: Iwaki RD-30 -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Yate Loon D12SL-12) -> Apogee GTX CPU -> Swiftech mcres-micro reservoir with G1/4" tap

And you think there are many out there that run an RD-30 so you can apply this generalization to all high flow users? Most people I know use DDC-1's, with DDC-2's and D5's being the next most popular pumps.
 
And you think there are many out there that run an RD-30 so you can apply this generalization to all high flow users? Most people I know use DDC-1's, with DDC-2's and D5's being the next most popular pumps.

They're friggin noisy too when put next to an Eheim 1046.
 
The thing you fail to realize is that AC blocks can be run in low, medium, and high flow configurations depending on the pump used. Some people like the Aquastream and others like the Aqua Computer DDC (or +) with the plexi top, some people run 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm ID tubing. Please don't say this is OT after running your mouth all over the place. ;)

BTW, do you really call these blocks low flow in nature:

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One thing I forgot to mention. Every time we have one of these kinds of threads the sales of AC components goes right through the roof here in the states and in other English speaking countries. Just wanted to thank you for your support in this endeavor. :D
 
One thing I forgot to mention. Every time we have one of these kinds of threads the sales of AC components goes right through the roof here in the states and in other English speaking countries. Just wanted to thank you for your support in this endeavor. :D

I can count two Aquaducts sold based on this thread. Lucky thing a new shipment is in the near future at www.sharkacomputers.com
 
Hey did you notice the shark fin in the water at the bottom of the page, must be something new. Now how can we get it so that every time Ranker visits he hears the music cut for Jaws. :p
 
I can count two Aquaducts sold based on this thread. Lucky thing a new shipment is in the near future at www.sharkacomputers.com

Wes told me he expects those 360 XT's to be gone by the time it takes for the shipment to go from Germany to LAX to Sharka. And Ranker deserves a big ((((HUG)))) for helping out with AC sales. :D

Did you order any of those Poweradjusts R1ckCa1n? I think those will go just as fast.
 
TN :

Yes (High flow doesn't cool unnecessary components)

Yes / No (Fittings aren't high flow, block design isn't low flow)

Yes (See point 1)

No (Good, relatively unrestrictive design for a chipset block, unless that is the GPU block....though aren't they the same?)
 
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