Asus customer service is #1 ( out of a possible 10)

It's pretty easy for Asus or any other mobo maker to make great claims about their motherboard, it's another to actually stand behind them. I think everyone who has ever dealt with Asus knows they couldn't care less about you. That's why the only time I'll ever buy an Asus board, like the one I currently own, is if I've read a lot of reviews on it and they've already tested it to the limits I wish to push it to. Thank god Newegg will replace most stuff for 1 year.

God forbid you ever have to actually RMA something to Asus... you might see it back in 2 months, and it'll probably still be broken, or one someone was kicking around on the workbench in the back.

My next motherboard is going to be a 650i EVGA simply for the fact that I know they'll help me out if I have problems, like they've done in the past when I had a problem with my video card.

To the OP: vdroop or not, if the damn board doesn't work as advertised, and you want to use that advertised feature, I believe you have a reasonable complaint. I mean that is an awefully expensive motherboard. It ought to offer something special right? Why else would anyone buy it? To run at stock settings? That's ridiculous.

Reminds me of all these boards out there that support 4 DIMMS but only at reduced timings, if you can get it to work at all. I think most people are far too lenient on motherboard makers simply because we've come to expect abject lies and BS from them.
 
Worst part is i paid the extra $$$ for this board for one reason and one reason only, more voltage.... Ive always used Asus for Intel builds, I didnt even consider any other brand when I built this rig... Thank god DFI has proven themselves to make wicked boards for Intel too, I guess its gonna be DFI for me from now on.....
 
We all have our reasons why we overclock and for me its benching.....

Great, so maybe you can explain something to me, if you have the time, that I have never understood in all my life.

Why the hell would people endanger their very expansive equipment just to score 3000 points higher than the other geek if you can't actually use the PC for something useful, like... I don't know, gaming, working? What possible advantage can it bring to your life to try and score as high as possible ? To empower your e-peen?

I don't get it...
 
wow why dont you call Intel and complain your chip doesn't OC to 4Ghz
 
Great, so maybe you can explain something to me, if you have the time, that I have never understood in all my life.

Why the hell would people endanger their very expansive equipment just to score 3000 points higher than the other geek if you can't actually use the PC for something useful, like... I don't know, gaming, working? What possible advantage can it bring to your life to try and score as high as possible ? To empower your e-peen?

I don't get it...

For the same reason people spend hundreds and thousands on hobbies. Some people buy cars, boats, motorcycles, and some people buy computers. It's a fact of life, get over it and move on.
 
Yes, except everything you mentioned actually serves a purpose. Gaming, working, transportation, ... ? Benching only serves in enhancing your e-peen.

And dude, lol seriously :D Get over it? It's never been a personal issue that disturbed my daily activities!
 
Great, so maybe you can explain something to me, if you have the time, that I have never understood in all my life.

Why the hell would people endanger their very expansive equipment just to score 3000 points higher than the other geek if you can't actually use the PC for something useful, like... I don't know, gaming, working? What possible advantage can it bring to your life to try and score as high as possible ? To empower your e-peen?

I don't get it...

Its a hobby and though you may call it empowering my e penis I dont look at it that way.... I push my computer not so I can brag about it, it gives me self satisfaction that I achieve my goal and the hard work I put in it paid off.... Theres alot of things people do that dont make sense to others, climbing Mt Everest is a good example, but people do it I guess for passion and unless your passonate about that same thing, one will never understand.... I hope that make sense.....

As for endangering your hardware, it is actually quite safe to run at those speeds if you know what your doing..... last hardware Ive killed due to overclocking was probably my old DFI nf2 board, but then again, I bought that hardware with the intention of killing it ( it was cheap enough).... ive had my E6600 at 1.82v, my ballistix at 3.12v my commando at 2.025v on the northbridge and I never thought at any time that I was endangering them.... For the record I wanted to RMA my board because it was defective, not because I broke it through overclocking.....

Now what I dont understand is why are people here care so much about stability, as in maximum stable speed..... Ive never used Orthos to test stability cos I never do any stability test at all lol..... I can run Orthos at 4gs on air for 4 hrs no problem but my 24/7 setting is wayyy lower than that cos i dont think the differnce is noticable..... i was doing some test before and forgot to set my multi back to 9x, so for about a week, I was running at 6x multi and that whole time I never notice I was running 1250mhz slower than normal .....
 
I push my computer not so I can brag about it, it gives me self satisfaction that I achieve my goal and the hard work I put in it paid off....

Never looked at it this way, make sense. I'm sure you do like to brag though, but at least you were able to provide me with a logic reason to do what you do.
 
Well everybody likes to brag..... Why do you think people put thier overclock specs or list all thier expensive hardware in thier sigs.... :D
 
Well everybody likes to brag..... Why do you think people put thier overclock specs or list all thier expensive hardware in thier sigs.... :D

Bragging isnt bad. I put my full specs list first for when I ask tech support, 2nd to showcase my build because I have put tremendous effort and time into building it, as well as getting the money for it. I would just never risk it to 5.0ghz to score high though, Im just looking to get the most of my money when I work or game.
 
Alot of people dont know how hard it is to kill a C2D, I dont think I can fry my cpu if I tried, same goes for the motherboards but rams is a different story..... I would never overclock that high if I think theres a 1 percent chance of me killing my cpu, I work hard for my money and I aint risking my expensive hardware just to enlarge my e penis lol..... But honestly what I do is very safe so killing a piece of hardware never crosses my mind...... That might change in a month or so cos Im moving up to LN2 , -192c is pretty scary to play with but Im sure itll produce a decent ovrclock:D
 
Real overclockers run stuff like Orthos, SuperPI, and 3DMark. How can you get the satisfaction of achievement just by looking at CPU-ID? It isn't hard to boot @ 5k but it's a whole different story to bench at 5K. You say you actually "bench" but then go on to say you've "never used Orthos". I am still calling BULLSHIT on most of this thread. :rolleyes:

You also mention that [H]ard is not a place for comparing Overclocks. This is absolute bullshit as well. [H]ard has been one of THE places to be for overclocking a lot longer than many of the other sites. In the Intel forum, there is a sticky thread for comparing C2D benchmark screenshots and people talk about their over clocks all the time in both CPU forums and the Overclocking forum.
 
How can you think a mobo isn't hard to kill? It's the EASIEST computer part to kill. A little scratch somewhere bad and won't post. I've never seen such sensitive bitches.
 
Real overclockers run stuff like Orthos,.
Funniest thing Ive heard in a while.... I think Im gonna put this quote in my sig at XS if you dont mind n00b.....

I dont know why youre even in this conversation when its obvious you have no clue at the subject... If you think getting a screenshot at 5gs is easy then go ahead and try it, there is so much more to it than booting at 5Gs take a screeenshot and reboot.... It will be easy using LN2 but with dry ice I think its about as easy as getting a screenshot at 4300mhz on air.... Ive only seen it done twice and its taken me more than 20hrs and 30lbs of dry ice to do it.... its that easy.....

Ive used Orthos a few times but never used it to test stability, Who do you think has the highest overclock on air in the Intel database here at {H}? I guess thats easy to do as well, just boot at 4gs run Orthos, come back 4hrs later and your done.... Just to let you know, Orthos has nothing to do with benching n00b ( though you can treat it as a benchmark ) if you ask the 20 best overclockers in the world if they use Orthos id be surprise if more than 2 says they do..... Thats what makes your comment above so funny lol.....

You wanna see benches I guess Ill take this opportunity to brag a lil... I was not able to bench at 5gs and I cant recall any that can using dry ice, Its hard to filter out what people use for cooling but I doubt if more than 3 has a higher overclock or faster time than mine on dry ice.....

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This is how my score stands vs all the best overclockers in the world.... Youll have a better clue when they break it down according to cooling methods used cos going againsts LN2 is like running on air and competing against people on phase change..... The spi 1M is #7 and the 32M is 3rd best ( both #1 in dry ice) at the Xtremesystems HWbot team .. thats no easy task with the caliber of competition in that forum

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@ Tigerlord, youre right dude, I like to brag:D
 
While that is impressive, it's not very practical for anything but sharing stats with your buddies. I am much more impressed with those overclockers who strive to achieve the highest speeds possible while still having a usable system. Dry Ice 24/7 isn't very practical and I'm sure you'll agree. But if this is how you like to spend your money and time, more power to ya.
 
If you want stability, this was my Orthos run on air using a Thermalright Ultra 120....:D

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E6300 on water... could have gone higher but its my buddy's cpu so I didnt wanna stress it too much...

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Your expectation is kinda high considering only 1 watercooled C2D has a higher overclock than mine in the database and Im running air.... Marvins clock at 4gs was proven to be fake BTW so on air nobody was even close, even the X6800s :D
 
I expect 4gigs with a fuxin stock cooler out of you pal! :D heheh, j/k though man. Have fun, time to go troll someone else for awhile.

Peace out! :cool:
 
I have a K8N Diamond Plus in RMA right now, we'll see if they can beat Asus (I hope they can). The PCI lock failed and the PCI slots and onboard sound are dead...

To the OP: Whoever is criticizing you needs to just shut up. It's not like you asked them "Why doesn't my CPU go to 3.6GHz?" They advertised a feature, they need to support that feature. It would be like buying a car advertised with 500hp only to find out that it has 100hp because "you have to buy the upgrade" or some bull like that. Companies that don't stand behind their advertising are a) scum and b) dishonest asshats. That's why I went eVGA for videocards, no BS for me from them!
 
MSI has one of the best customer service in the industry so youre in good hands.... also thanks for the support......

W6FO.... peace bro... ;)
 
Asus advertises certain voltages, then those boards should support it and is defective otherwise...I'm with this guy. This is a no-brainer, no matter what his intended purposes are. Get off his e-penis and show some respect. Good luck luihed.
 
You know most of the 800 #'s you call to are handeled by outsourcing companies. Thats when you get some guy that can't speak english and you start getting stumpped.
 
That's why I love eVGA. The same people that respond to problems in their forums are the ones who answer the phones. I don't care if another company has the same product cheaper, I'd rather pay 20 bucks more and know if I have a problem I'm covered. I hope they continue to have the stellar support we've come to expect from 'em. To be honest, before the eVGA mobo in my signature, I pretty much used Asus boards exclusively. I've never had a dead one, but they are very finicky with memory timings and temperature.
 
Luihed, keep up the work, Bro'. Asus eats turds, and anyone who thinks differently is Asus' future dinner guest. I bought a POS Striker Extreme, and when it took a nose dive I got a single email from them. If they say the board can do that, the board should do that. Period. Perhaps you're OC'ing, perhaps you take it to dinner and dress it in pumps, rouge, and a maxi-pad (... oh, my bad, that's those kinks over at Gigabyte!). What you're doing with the board doesn't bear on the matter if it originally is missing an advertised feature. You keep climbing Everest, and those who can't handle the heights can chirp their lilliputian squeaks at you from base camp 1.
 
Luihed Luihed Luihed.... what can I say, haha. Yeah I don't know you very well, but this thread was pretty funny! I just read through it and couldn't believe the ones who tried to blame you for wanting a motherboard to work at it's advertised timings :eek: Although you probably should have not mentioned that you tried to Vmod it LOL

Can't remember who compared this to collecting a sports car and said hey it's used for transportation.... which is total BS, people collect really old/expensive cars to LOOK at, have them cleaned every week and drive them once every 3 months. IMO this is a MUCH cheaper form of recreation, however geeky it is (I'm geeky too, don't worry ;) )

Nice OC'ing though, I was impressed w/4+ Ghz, but 5 is amazing! I should run out and throw some dry ice on my 3600+! Except that my mobo doesn't go past 310 HTT :(

I can see you must have been upset, I don't think I saw you type "lol" until this post
 
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