When you have enough money for 8800U SLI, AMD is long obsolete.
Here's somebody with a bit of sense in his head! How dare you put things in their proper context?
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When you have enough money for 8800U SLI, AMD is long obsolete.
If you buy an Ultra you deserve a Darwin award.
Here's somebody with a bit of sense in his head! How dare you put things in their proper context?
Nothing is obsolete. If the 3.5" floppy isn't obsolete, AMD isn't either. Here's to hoping AMD stays alive and saves us a lot of money.
yes yes...but you're still missing the point
Which is that, if this guy wants to spend 1.8 grand on an upgrade, he should at least be running the most current platform
it's hilarious that you are trying to lecture this guy (and me) about the "continued viability" of an old platform when he is trying to purchase 2 8800 ultra cards
"continued viability" is obviously not in his vocabulary and thats why it shouldnt be in yours if you want to give him advice, and hence my advice was appropriate
That's very true, but you also have to admit that Al makes a damn good point. It doesn't make much sense at all from a dollar-per-frame perspective to be running an Opteron or what have you when Intel's current line of procs is clearly superior. He states a pretty obvious alternative: Core 2 Duo and overclocked 8800 GTXs, which will give him better performance 9 times out of 10 (or better).He can spend his money however he wants.
QFT (fucking hate qft) Well he speaks the truth!
Well the 8800 ultra's aren't good enough to put in a sig rig or any system for that matter. It won't matter during games and it's not even cool enough to get props.
Just game!
I played the command and conquer 3: Tiberium Wars the other day on the rig in my sig on all medium with great FPS. It's not worth the dough.
Have a nice day!
That would be a good point were it not for the fact that we're talking about the OP investing in $1650+ graphics card setup, something that the majority of people around here spend roughly $200-450 for. That changes the way we think about the situation slightly.If you'd rather spend less money and lose maybe 10FPS, why not go AMD? You'll save quite a bit of money for only a small loss of performance.
Right now I have two Evga Superclocked 7900GTXs running in SLI mode. I am thinking these would probably still beat only one 8800Ultra, so I was going to get 2. Is this true?
Btw, will I even notice a difference in SLI with the 8800Ultras with my somewhat outdated cpu?
Here are my specs:
AMD Opteron 170 @ 2.63ghz
2gbs of Corsair PC4000 DDR ram
750W PSU (certified for 7900GTX sli, dunno about 8800ultra)
That would be a good point were it not for the fact that we're talking about the OP investing in $1650+ graphics card setup, something that the majority of people around here spend roughly $200-450 for. That changes the way we think about the situation slightly.
Which system will be faster in games?
1) C2D + 2x8800GTS / 1x8800GTX/Ultra
2) Opteron + 2x8800GTX/Ultra
IMO 2x Ultra is not worth it, just go with 2x GTX. However I don't that it is a good idea if you trade the second GTX with a C2D.
If he is using a small resolution screen, 2x 8800GTX will push FPS high enough that I think you can't notice the difference between an Opteron and a C2D. Normally a monitor only has a 60Hz refresh rate at the native resolution so what is the difference between 120 FPS and 160 FPS?
QFT (fucking hate qft) Well he speaks the truth!
Or people who have the money and feel like spending it on whatever they wish.
I'm thinking that perhaps the 8800 Ultra exists so that extremely envious poor people feel like they have something else to complain about.
Interesting play, NVIDIA. I hope it amuses you as much as it does me.
I think 8800 Ultra SLI would barely cut it with that supar powerful CPU you're using. I mean it would work, but you'd definitely be GPU limited. You should probably wait until the next generation of video cards and then upgrade to "9800 Ultra" SLI. Then your system would be much more balanced.
^^This guy is wrong, depending on the resolution you're playing at.
Listen to me plenty because I'm right. Anyone who is running AMD at this point in time has been obsolete since June 2006. Thanks
Ummm, he was being very sarcastic? Earth humor, ar! ar! ar! [/Mork]
Every DX9 game is being maxed out at 1600x1200 by one 8800GTX alone.
I think people tend to underestimate how much a faster CPU can improve performance.
I just don't think that there is any situation in games where a single graphic card on a slightly faster CPU can outperform two of the best graphic cards on a slightly slower CPU(except for supcom, I think) .
I still have my FX60 on OH MY GOD s939 with ddr 1 I"m happy as can be.
There are plenty of situations where that's the case. SLI does not work with all games. SLI never doubles the performance of one card. Even when it does provide a performance advantage, it's only substantial about half the time. One fast card with an OC'd CPU is way better than SLI with a slow CPU.
Care to elaborate? Have you ever tried SLi before? If you have then you know that it can be disabled in the control panel, one fast card with an OC'd CPU is not way better than SLI with a slightly slow CPU in some games but two fast cards with a slightly slow CPU is way better than one fast card with a slightly better CPU in other games.
If you're running ancient shit (software) then there's no need to stay current on hardware. However, you are missing out what's probably the best generation of consumer hardware ever (C2D + 600i platform, 8x GPU).
At the end of last summer, the reports were all over the web. Entry level Conroe's were beating top-class AMD FX cpu's in real world benchmarks. Intel has been on top since that time, and legions of people upgraded to an LGA 775 platform last fall, myself among them (I was coming from s-478). That is why DDR2 prices were so expensive from Sept-Jan. Now they have started coming down. AMD is simply out of the picture for enthusiasts right now. If you ask me, they are out for good, because processors have ceased to be the ultimate rubrick of computer performance. Intel will simply coast on the success of Conroe, AMD will try to match that success with it's own product and if/when it does, it will then coast itself. The trend is to keep adding more cores, which don't actually improve performance whatsoever on 90% of applications. This is a sign that the chip makers are running out of ideas. They've already tried the clock frequency race, efficient architecture, and multi-cores. Naturally, fabrication methods will continue to improve, but I think we have seen the best of the big chip makers. The future is in graphics and high speed storage.
A single GTX barely makes any effort, in today's games, with all the eye candy on @ extremely high-resolutions.
SLI never doubles the performance of one card.
Sorry I didn't actually respond to this topic, but I am running 2560X1600 resolution.