Official Dell 2707WFP Thread !!! Info, Pictures, Reviews

Without putting my face right up next to the screen I cannot hear anything nor really tell the difference in dot pitch between my old 2405. If either of those are you primary concerns I do not think you need to worry.

The charger for my xbox 360 batteries is louder.
 
Thanks Cabezone, gweempose, and RonaldSage - can I just check whether you are located in Europe or the US? There is some suspicion with the NEC that it is European 2690s that have a hum because of the higher voltages in Europe. I hope that European sourced Dell 27"s are identical to the US ones and that geography and voltage makes no difference.

David
 
Thanks gweempose and Cabezone. That raises concerns for me. Because with the NEC 2690, it seems to be the european destined 2690s that had the hum - the US and lower voltage areas didn't have the problem. Maybe the same with the Dell? Don't know.

David
 
Dell doesn't have this problem :). I got two 2407 Rev.4 (bought it after bad experience with NEC 2690 - 3 stuck pixels!) one is made in Czech republic another one is from Mexico. None of them is humming and non of them has dead pixels.
 
lukx said:
Dell doesn't have this problem :). I got two 2407 Rev.4 (bought it after bad experience with NEC 2690 - 3 stuck pixels!) one is made in Czech republic another one is from Mexico. None of them is humming and non of them has dead pixels.
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Thanks. That's good news.

David
 
OK, I admit I'm clueless about HD stuff.

I tried hooking up a Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player to my 2707 via HDMI to DVI cable and I am getting a blank screen with an "out of range ..... switch to 1900 x 1200 60Hz". This player outputs 1080i.

I was under the assumption that the 2707 could handle it as it supports HDCP. What am I missing here?

:confused: TIA
 
cman74 said:
OK, I admit I'm clueless about HD stuff.

I tried hooking up a Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player to my 2707 via HDMI to DVI cable and I am getting a blank screen with an "out of range ..... switch to 1900 x 1200 60Hz". This player outputs 1080i.

I was under the assumption that the 2707 could handle it as it supports HDCP. What am I missing here?

:confused: TIA
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It's probably not a HDCP problem. Are you sure you're using a DVI-D to HDMI cable?

I'm not sure the monitor will accept 1080i. Try setting the player to 720p, if possible.
 
cman74 said:
OK, I admit I'm clueless about HD stuff.

I tried hooking up a Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player to my 2707 via HDMI to DVI cable and I am getting a blank screen with an "out of range ..... switch to 1900 x 1200 60Hz". This player outputs 1080i.

I was under the assumption that the 2707 could handle it as it supports HDCP. What am I missing here?

:confused: TIA
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1080i isn't supported through DVI; try outputting 720p and see if that works.
 
RonaldSage said:
1080i isn't supported through DVI; try outputting 720p and see if that works.
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I should have read post #4 on the first page. :mad:

VGA DVI Component
480i No Yes Yes
480p No Yes Yes
720i No Yes Yes
720p No Yes Yes
1080i No No Yes
1080p No Yes No
 
cman74 said:
I should have read post #4 on the first page. :mad:

VGA DVI Component
480i No Yes Yes
480p No Yes Yes
720i No Yes Yes
720p No Yes Yes
1080i No No Yes
1080p No Yes No
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that doesn't make any sense.... If VGA can't support any of those resolutions, why the hell is it even on there....
 
I'm pretty sure those VGA specs aren't accurate; I didn't get a chance to test out any of those resolutions, since I've returned it already, but I've seen a link where someone did a review of the 2707 specifically for use with a 360 connected through the VGA port.

It was a Korean website, I don't remember the name...
 
The Xbox 360 dose ouput in 720p and 1080p through VGA on this monitor i own this monitor and have tested it with component and VGA only VGA does 1080p although its listed in PC resolutions not in HDTV (1080p) talk... eg. 1280×720 and 1920×1080.

its just washed out through VGA you could probably correct it if you fiddle with the settings but im happy with component in 1080i upscaled... you cant tell the difference on this monitor from 720p and 1080i in terms of interlacing...

but be warned when you choose a 1080p monitor over a 720p one you will see alot more jaged edges in games with the xbox 360 in games... the only benefit is when you use a 1080p souce on this monitor... its a choice you have to make...

if you go for a 720p monitor you might loose out on a much clearer picture when using a ps3 in 1080p games and hd-dvd/blueray movies...
 
Hi guys. I have question for 2707 owners.

I connected Wii via Component, running 480P HD on widescreen, and I setted 'Aspect' on Wide Mode for my 2707.

But, my 2707 displays 480P in 4:3 aspect ratio rather 16:9. I tried with xbox360 and same result. Are you guys having a same problem???

Should I RMA this monitor back to Dell??
 
shinji23 said:
Hi guys. I have question for 2707 owners.

I connected Wii via Component, running 480P HD on widescreen, and I setted 'Aspect' on Wide Mode for my 2707.

But, my 2707 displays 480P in 4:3 aspect ratio rather 16:9. I tried with xbox360 and same result. Are you guys having a same problem???

Should I RMA this monitor back to Dell??
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I thought 480i/p was 4:3. Don't you need 720p or 1080i/p for a 16:9 screen.
 
Tanquen said:
I thought 480i/p was 4:3. Don't you need 720p or 1080i/p for a 16:9 screen.
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Really?? I didn't know. I thought 480P is also a widescreen. But Wii has a widescreen option. 480P widescreen option works on my regular HDTV and same for the XBOX360 and that is why I am bit confused...
 
shinji23 said:
Really?? I didn't know. I thought 480P is also a widescreen. But Wii has a widescreen option. 480P widescreen option works on my regular HDTV and same for the XBOX360 and that is why I am bit confused...
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480p is a widescreen resolution 852x480. It gets squished when you run it on a 480p capable tv that is 4:3
 
Does anyone know what revision number it is now for 2707?

I'm rather concerned with the color inaccuracy and backlight uniformity problem brought up in some reriews out there with early revisions, I guess I might wait for those problems solved in the next revision.
 
AFAIK There is only one revision - A00. No earlier revisions, no nothing.

Backlight problems? This has got the most uniform backlighting with absolutely no bleeding, so i don't know what problem you're talking about.

Colour inaccuracies? Probably the most accurate display aside from S-IPS and professional graphics displays.
 
1) Does this display properly scale Playstation 3 using an HDMI to DVI converter in 1:1 (which black bars on top and bottom only) @ 1080p. Does it stretch 720p full screen (I['m hoping yes on that one)?


2) Does this display properly scale Xbox 360 via VGA @1080p 1:1 with black bars top and bottom?

3) Does this display properly scale Wii over component, or better yet does it stretch the Wii wide to look as good as the Wii can look?

4) Is this a good display for console and PC gaming, I guess this is related to the above questions.

Thank you for your help.
 
Ferris23 said:
1) Does this display properly scale Playstation 3 using an HDMI to DVI converter in 1:1 (which black bars on top and bottom only) @ 1080p. Does it stretch 720p full screen (I['m hoping yes on that one)?


2) Does this display properly scale Xbox 360 via VGA @1080p 1:1 with black bars top and bottom?

3) Does this display properly scale Wii over component, or better yet does it stretch the Wii wide to look as good as the Wii can look?

4) Is this a good display for console and PC gaming, I guess this is related to the above questions.

Thank you for your help.
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I believe everything except the wii question is answered in this thread, just read it :)

Also, if it scales with DVI its going to scale with VGA.
 
I'll answer the Wii question. Over component it does stretch the image and retain the proper aspect ration however it blows it up to fill the whole screen and chops off the sides a little. It also has some input lag over the component with the Wii, making the pointer feel sluggish.
 
kimnkk said:
AFAIK There is only one revision - A00. No earlier revisions, no nothing.

Backlight problems? This has got the most uniform backlighting with absolutely no bleeding, so i don't know what problem you're talking about.

Colour inaccuracies? Probably the most accurate display aside from S-IPS and professional graphics displays.
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Thanks for the info, I wasn;t sure if its rev00 or 01.

The two problems I listed above are two common problems stated in many reviews, I didnt make it up...
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_2707WFP_27_inch_LCD_monitor/4505-3174_7-32306445.html
read this man, it's like the first one u'd get when typing 'Dell 2707wfp reviews' in google. The color is vivid or stunning doesnt mean it's accurate, which makes this one less perfect in my mind, thats why i decided to wait.

"However, at various levels of saturation between the two extremes--the middle 55 percent or so--there are pockets of colors that the display can't reproduce properly. This display also has poor brightness uniformity: on a black screen, you can clearly see light emanating from three of the four corners. There's also various red and green color contamination visible in grayscale midtones, and lighter blues look positively purple."
 
ichitakaseto said:
Thanks for the info, I wasn;t sure if its rev00 or 01.

The two problems I listed above are two common problems stated in many reviews, I didnt make it up...
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_2707WFP_27_inch_LCD_monitor/4505-3174_7-32306445.html
read this man, it's like the first one u'd get when typing 'Dell 2707wfp reviews' in google. The color is vivid or stunning doesnt mean it's accurate, which makes this one less perfect in my mind, thats why i decided to wait.

"However, at various levels of saturation between the two extremes--the middle 55 percent or so--there are pockets of colors that the display can't reproduce properly. This display also has poor brightness uniformity: on a black screen, you can clearly see light emanating from three of the four corners. There's also various red and green color contamination visible in grayscale midtones, and lighter blues look positively purple."
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No worries.

Take Cnet's review with a truckload of salt, because they honestly don't know what they're talking about.

If you read a real review, you will see that people take calibrators to the screen and actually measure the gamut and accuracy. Cnet just says 'blue looks like purple', which is far from a proper or real colour test. I don't know what 2707WFP they got, but there is definitely no backlight bleeding from any corners of this screen.

That said, this is not the most colour accurate displays out there, but you can make it more accurate if you buy a decent calibrator. It wasn't made to compete with those $3000 displays that are made for professionals.
 
ichitakaseto said:
Thanks for the info, I wasn;t sure if its rev00 or 01.

The two problems I listed above are two common problems stated in many reviews, I didnt make it up...
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_2707WFP_27_inch_LCD_monitor/4505-3174_7-32306445.html
read this man, it's like the first one u'd get when typing 'Dell 2707wfp reviews' in google. The color is vivid or stunning doesnt mean it's accurate, which makes this one less perfect in my mind, thats why i decided to wait.

"However, at various levels of saturation between the two extremes--the middle 55 percent or so--there are pockets of colors that the display can't reproduce properly. This display also has poor brightness uniformity: on a black screen, you can clearly see light emanating from three of the four corners. There's also various red and green color contamination visible in grayscale midtones, and lighter blues look positively purple."
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Most, if not all of the reviews I've read about the 2707WFP where they have calibrated the screen first and tested the colors, they have spoken very nicely about the color accuracy of the 2707WFP. :) Extremetech, Behardware, Xbit-labs etc.

The 2707WFP is a wide gamut screen.
Eyeballing this screen vs. as example 2407WFP and comparing colors would be a bit wrong. The 2407WFP has the standard gamut of a sRGB screen, while the 2707WFP is a wide gamut display closer to RGB. Link for some indepth info about sRGB vs. RGB. The color mapping is different between those screens, so images and colors will appear different as well. Here is a visual example of this.

The uniformity of the screen is like any other screen: lottery. Cnet probably got a bad specimen. This doesn't mean you can't get a perfectly uniform 2707WFP. :) If Cnet were a consumer, he would RMA the 2707WFP to get another 2707WFP without that defect. :D
 
i see... i havent been looking into this for long, guess ive been only reading the minorities. Thanks for providing the more indepth info, ill read it through, and maybe reconsider getting one now.

ps. any decent calibrator of recommendation? ill definitly need one if going to buy this monitor. ;)
 
ok i received mine 2 days ago and for now so far so good,no problems on my side
it's a great monitor is al i can say
 
Weenis said:
480p is a widescreen resolution 852x480. It gets squished when you run it on a 480p capable tv that is 4:3
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480p is a 3:2 resolution, 720x480. It's supposed to be scaled to either 4:3 or 16:9, but many monitors get this wrong. How does this one do?
 
I found a good price on the Dell 2707... $1085. Oddly enough I found this on Alienware's website! :confused: (I would have assumed that the price wiould have been jacked up a bit on thier site)

Here's the link for anyone who wants it: 2707 @ Alienware
 
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