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Intel Penryn Information: We have slides direct from Intel that detail the company's new Penryn processors. Hit the link to see all 15 slides.

Marking the next step in Intel’s “tick-tock” product strategy and cadence to deliver a new process technology with an enhanced microarchitecture or entirely new microarchitecture every year, Intel Corporation will begin producing its next-generation Penryn family of processors in the second half of this year. These new processors benefit from enhancements to the Intel® Core™ microarchitecture and also Intel’s industry-leading 45nm Hi-k process technology with its hafnium-based high-k + metal gate transistor design, which results in higher performance and more energy-efficient processors.
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Needs more Nehelem. Integrated Memory Controllers make Jesus proud.


Integrated GPU's would be nice for ultra small notebooks but other than that I dont see a benefit.
 
Nice... the slide on Dynamic Acceleration Technology.

It doesn't seem to be splitting a thread across two cores. It seems to be saying that each core will have more headroom then marked for, to stay within the power envelope. That means higher OCs for us? Nice! :D
 
maybe; or it might just mean small guaranteed overclocks....
do people @ xs have penryn samples yet?
 
Baloney....Errr I mean Barcelona is in trouble and it hasn't even left the gate yet :p


In all seriousness,Intel has a few real winners on its hands here. :)
 
Peryn seems to be good to go... They need it to be released ASAP tho, even at a high price point... the sooner the better.
 
Looks to me like the new core is going to have a serious jump in Floating Point throughput. Between the highly optimised Floating Point SSE calls and more cache combined with higher clock speeds. I'd be surprised if we weren't looking at a 150%+ real world gains over the core 2 for the high end parts.

Here's hoping they get it all working and don't can bits. :D
 
The main question for me is to know if it still use LGA775 and would it work on current last-gen mobos like the BadAxe2...
 
Xilikon said:
The main question for me is to know if it still use LGA775 and would it work on current last-gen mobos like the BadAxe2...
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why are people so obsessed with this? a new mobo would cost a fraction of the new cpu cost.....so why why why??
 
osalcido said:
why are people so obsessed with this? a new mobo would cost a fraction of the new cpu cost.....so why why why??
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If you know how much a BadAxe2 or a 680i motherboard cost, you will wonder the same as me ;)
 
I don;t want to spend another $250 in the next couple of months for motherboard.
 
osalcido said:
why are people so obsessed with this? a new mobo would cost a fraction of the new cpu cost.....so why why why??
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This is a bit of an "extreme" case (no pun intended) but the ASUS Striker costs $350.
....that "fraction" is often around 1/2 (and can be higher).
Your argument only works if you are buying either a $1,000 CPU or if you are buying a $100 mobo & $400+ CPU.
 
osalcido said:
why are people so obsessed with this? a new mobo would cost a fraction of the new cpu cost.....so why why why??
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If an upgrade was only the cpu. But add in a good mobo, new ram, vid card.....it get's expensive. Much like the jump from athlon xp's to S939 A64's. And again with all of us sitting on the fence waiting to see what the next gen brings and at how much?

Computers are a fun hobby, but I have other hobbies, 2 kids, and an ex wife that detract from my pc upgrade budget so I have to look at the long term solution.

 
thunderstruck! said:
Nope, new socket I'm afraid.
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Damnit, why is this always the case with Intel?

I have to admit that AMD is much more socket "friendly" than Intel.

I'm with the other guy in that I have a child and wife...upgrading mobo's can be very expensive .
 
According to various articles, it will be introduced as LGA-775, but we'll have to wait and see exactly what existing mb's if any will meet the requirements.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955
Penryn family processors are supposed to be socket-compatible, meaning that on the desktop we will see them introduced as LGA-775 CPUs. We'd expect that Intel's new lineup of chipsets will be required, but we are not sure if the new chipsets will support the 1600MHz FSB out of the box or if a refresh will be required.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/03/29/intel_penryn_nehalem_and_the_future/1.html
Intel stipulated that current motherboards would need to attain certain requirements before being able to run 45nm CPUs, despite being socket compatible. The motherboard can be made to work with a simple BIOS update, however they would also need to support certain power requirements and the new elevated bus frequencies.
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osalcido said:
why are people so obsessed with this? a new mobo would cost a fraction of the new cpu cost.....so why why why??
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Anyone who buys a motherboard with lots of features, and buys a processor to overclock is spending almost as much on the motherboard. You can overclock a cheap processor to get more speed. You can't overclock a motherboard to get more features.
 
Xilikon said:
If you know how much a BadAxe2 or a 680i motherboard cost, you will wonder the same as me ;)
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well you shouldve bought one avg. price mobo for your p4d or conroe and then buy a different modest mobo for the new procs and ddr3, right? I think you wouldve saved money that way.
 
i wonder if there will be a difference in price between the 65nm Q6600 and the 45nm Q6600 and which one will be more overclockable.
 
Now I have to decide whether to jump the gun and upgrade my 939 single core rig to a e6600/ddr2 rig, or wait it out for the Penryn/ddr3 to arrive.

Can we all expect the new 45 Penryns to be priced in the $900 range when they are released like the x6800 and q6600 is now?

Also the same question for ddr3 ram. Do you think that the average price will be around $300+ for these new chips?

If those are the cases, which I think it will be, Im going to save some cash and get a e6600/ddr2 upgrade.
 
Intel wants to regain market share so I don't think they'll be too high in price. It will also depend on the price and performance of AMD's new processors.

Memory prices are another matter. I think the memory manufacturers will use it as an opportunity to take you for everything you got.
 
Triz08 said:
Now I have to decide whether to jump the gun and upgrade my 939 single core rig to a e6600/ddr2 rig, or wait it out for the Penryn/ddr3 to arrive.

Can we all expect the new 45 Penryns to be priced in the $900 range when they are released like the x6800 and q6600 is now?

Also the same question for ddr3 ram. Do you think that the average price will be around $300+ for these new chips?

If those are the cases, which I think it will be, Im going to save some cash and get a e6600/ddr2 upgrade.
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Won't Penryn still use DDR2 memory?
 
osalcido said:
well you shouldve bought one avg. price mobo for your p4d or conroe and then buy a different modest mobo for the new procs and ddr3, right? I think you wouldve saved money that way.
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LOL.. When I bought mine, Penryn infos is almost nonexistent ;) It's silly to plan out the upgrades 6 months to 1 year in advance. Personnally, if it works with Penryn, it would be sweet but if not, no biggie since mine still can take quads as well so there is still some room left.
 
heatlesssun said:
Won't Penryn still use DDR2 memory?
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With Penryn, the RAM support is on the motherboard so we can see Bearlake with DDR2 or DDR3 version. Nehalem will have a on-die memory controller, so I would believe it will be designed with DDR3 only to avoid too much variations in sockets and boards.
 
are you kidding, amd has been playing around with much more sockets that intel has. AM2+ SOCKETF are amd's equivelant.
 
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