Are these e4300 chips any good?

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LordJezo

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I was just reading some stuff about how the e4300 are the most wonderful chips for their price range. Are they any good for gaming? I am not a hardcore overclocker, I don't really like the risk involved, but I am also not a power gamer. As long as a game runs and doesn't run choppy with it's default settings I am a happy camper.

If I got one of these things to save some money (as opposed to getting a e6400) would I be able to run things and get decent performance or should I skip the budget line and stick with the 6x00 series, actually, just wait for the new chips coming out in a couple of months with the 4mb on all of them.
 
If you are going cheap, just go with the E6400. Your computer will thank you for putting in such a sweet CPU. I would advise staying away from the E4300 unless you are extreamly strapped for cash.
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nullzero said:
It seems the e4300 dont OC as well as e6300 and e6400s.
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The e4300 oc like crazy from the review over at Firingsquad. They got it up to 3.58ghz on air.

It will also drop in price to about $113 in q2. Great proc for the oc'er on a budget.
 
I got the E4300 and couldnt be happier. I was originally going to get the E6400, but the E4300 was on sale for $163. This was my first time OCing and it was not hard at all! The chip OCs nicely. I left mine at 3.0ghz just because I dont need anything more and prefer not to push it to the max. With my current setup I hit high 9xxx in 3dmark06. At stock speeds I was at 7xxx.

I play BF2 and R6 vegas at 1280x1024 and have no complaints. Couldnt be happier.
 
Stupac said:
The e4300 oc like crazy from the review over at Firingsquad. They got it up to 3.58ghz on air.

It will also drop in price to about $113 in q2. Great proc for the oc'er on a budget.
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They got it upto 3.5 GHz on $500 memory sticks LOL.
 
wdn said:
They got it upto 3.5 GHz on $500 memory sticks LOL.
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Yeah...

There are a few ppl around here that can't break the 3.1 area.

I say E6300 if you want to save about 20$ over the E6400...

Or wait till the E4300s drop down to their REAL MSRP.
 
I got my e4300 for a pretty good price.
I am happy with its performance, and I have it at 3ghz. :)
 
wdn said:
They got it upto 3.5 GHz on $500 memory sticks LOL.
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$500 dollar memory and 1.525v...

Im guessing they got an above average e4300, from what other people are posting they are clocking in around 2.9ghz-3.2ghz on average with a voltage bump to about 1.35-1.4v. Need a little more e4300 data with various steppings to make sure the results show this. The newer revisions of the e6300 are clocking majority +3.1ghz-3.4ghz with voltage in the 1.35-1.4. I would say go for a e6300 or e6400 perferably if you plan to OC at all. If your OCing, most people would have a decent mobo like a gigabyte S3 at least anyway (so high FSB isnt much of a problem). If your penny pinching and want to save $15 dollars then go for the e4300 over the e6300 (after 3ghz the real world performance increase is marginal anyway).
 
I was originally gonna buy the e6400 but went with the e4300 because a) it was cheaper and b) its very forgiving on memory

Mine OC'ed insanely out the box. Mine hit 3ghz right off the bat at very low voltage and very low temps. The chip has so much more headroom, but I wanna keep mine for years and years so 3ghz is fine by me.
 
What kind of ram and motherboard and cooler do you need in order to get this thing up to speed?

Would I need more expensive stuff to get the chip up above E6600 speeds?
 
The people in the SFF section are really ranting about the e-4300 because of the 9x mulit and it being forgiving on the MOBO and Ram so if 2.4 is all that you want I know my friends e-4300 and p5l-mx will easly do over 2.4. I posted a thread over there E-4300/P5L-MX if you want to check it out. I think any decent board will get you over 2.4.
 
EnforcerGT said:
I was originally gonna buy the e6400 but went with the e4300 because a) it was cheaper and b) its very forgiving on memory

Mine OC'ed insanely out the box. Mine hit 3ghz right off the bat at very low voltage and very low temps. The chip has so much more headroom, but I wanna keep mine for years and years so 3ghz is fine by me.
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truth. I dont think its fair to say that we are barely hitting 3ghz. I mean I am in the same boat as ^^^^. I dont need to reach the limits of the cpu. Those of us that have OC'd with the E4300 are very happy. I didnt think I wanted this chip and was really set on the e6400. For the price you cant beat it. Why would you opt to spend more on the E6400 when the E4300 can reach the around the same speeds and isnt as demanding on your mobo and ram.
 
WTF are you talking about..... this chip cannot compare to the X6800 no matter what. Of course it would for surely need to go fatser than the X6800 to get the same score.... it has less cache! If you look at the stock clocks there is no comparison there either since the E6300 runs a 266 FSB vs. the 200FSB that the E4300 runs. A direct comparison between these 2 chips would be to run them at the same FSB on the same multi and then see what happens.
 
merlin87 said:
truth. I dont think its fair to say that we are barely hitting 3ghz. I mean I am in the same boat as ^^^^. I dont need to reach the limits of the cpu. Those of us that have OC'd with the E4300 are very happy. I didnt think I wanted this chip and was really set on the e6400. For the price you cant beat it. Why would you opt to spend more on the E6400 when the E4300 can reach the around the same speeds and isnt as demanding on your mobo and ram.
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Because the E4300 is not anywhere close to reaching the overclock speeds of the E6400.
 
Stupac said:
With the the expensive ram and cheap cpu it averages out.:D
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Yep, save $45 off the price of a E6400 by buying an E4300, and then you need to go out and spend $300 more on memory to the E4300 to get a decent overclock. LOL.

:D
 
The e4300 can barely keep up with the clock speeds the e6300 runs at. My friend is running a e6300 at 3.3ghz with 1.34v on a gigabyte S3, its othros stable as well.
 
wdn said:
Yep, save $45 off the price of a E6400 by buying an E4300, and then you need to go out and spend $300 more on memory to the E4300 to get a decent overclock. LOL.

:D
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This doesn't make sense... E4300 has 9x multiplier and the E6400, only 8x so you don't need 300$ memory...
 
wdn said:
Yep, save $45 off the price of a E6400 by buying an E4300, and then you need to go out and spend $300 more on memory to the E4300 to get a decent overclock. LOL.

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Decent overclock?
I think from 1.8ghz to 3ghz is a pretty nice overclock for how cheap of everything you can run it on.
 
Blah blah...

people obsessing about the OC-ability.

Back in the day, we were happy to get a Celeron-300A up to 450. A 50% OC.

The E4300 is the new Celeron, especially after the price comes down. A 50% OC without breaking a sweat or straining your mobo and RAM. 66% seems quite common without even fiddling with the voltage. Yes I aimed for 100% one afternoon, didn't get there. I quickly got bored with that and didn't pursue it very hard, as I don't actually need it for anything. Sure I could buy expensive RAM and probably buy myself a spot in some fleeting record-book entry, but why? Cheaper RAM will get a 50-70% OC easily.

Even at stock speeds, I am getting 60+ FPS in HL2 and BF2, which is good enough for me. I overclock it mostly for doing batches of DivX encoding.

Let's face it though folks, the days of the CPU being most important part of your system is LONG GONE! Time to move on, get something in the 1.8-3 GHz range and be happy with it. If you want really fast performance for most people this means a fast disk, enough RAM, a hot graphics card, etc.

To answer original post, remember that? Anyhow, yes the E4300 will do pretty well in gaming. See my signature for my specs.
 
For months we've had to hear how the E4300 was going to be the NEW BUDGET KING. People said it was going to be THE sub-$120 overclocking CPU and they were going to wait for it come hell or high water. So what really happens? Well, it comes out and it's only $25 cheaper than an E6300 was 6 months ago and slower clock-for-clock. LOL. Pretty funny.

I bought my E6300 in August for $200 shipped. If CPU speed really doesn't matter, then ANYONE could have bought an E6300 months ago like me and decent RAM (my D9 Team RAM was less than $200) and ran it at say 2.8 GHz. A 400 FSB is NOT stressful on any decent motherboard or E6300 on the market. Heck, it's default FSB for DDR2-667! What is the point of the E4300 exactly?

Geniuses I tell ya. Geniuses.
 
aldamon said:
For months we've had to hear how the E4300 was going to be the NEW BUDGET KING. People said it was going to be THE sub-$120 overclocking CPU and they were going to wait for it come hell or high water. So what really happens? Well, it comes out and it's only $25 cheaper than an E6300 was 6 months ago and slower clock-for-clock. LOL. Pretty funny.

I bought my E6300 in August for $200 shipped. If CPU speed really doesn't matter, then ANYONE could have bought an E6300 months ago like me and decent RAM (my D9 Team RAM was less than $200) and ran it at say 2.8 GHz. A 400 FSB is NOT stressful on any decent motherboard or E6300 on the market. Heck, it's default FSB for DDR2-667! What is the point of the E4300 exactly?

Geniuses I tell ya. Geniuses.
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Yeah but when you got a 9x multi and 400FSB what do you get??? 3.6Ghz.... not 2.8Ghz. Have you done a direct comparison of these chips yourself?? Did you run the same multi's and FSB on them?? I want to see the results if you did.
 
jbmx4life said:
Yeah but when you got a 9x multi and 400FSB what do you get??? 3.6Ghz.... not 2.8Ghz. Have you done a direct comparison of these chips yourself?? Did you run the same multi's and FSB on them?? I want to see the results if you did.
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Thanks for missing the point entirely jbmx. Enjoy your CPU. I just hope you know you could have been just as happy 6 months ago.
 
jbmx4life said:
Yeah but when you got a 9x multi and 400FSB what do you get??? 3.6Ghz.... not 2.8Ghz. Have you done a direct comparison of these chips yourself?? Did you run the same multi's and FSB on them?? I want to see the results if you did.
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3600 ?? Well as they say, talk is cheap -- I'm still waiting for somebody with an E4300 to crack the 3200 barrier -- never mind 3600 LOL. :D Let's see some new entries in the official Core 2 overclocking database.
 
wdn said:
3600 ?? Well as they say, talk is cheap -- I'm still waiting for somebody with an E4300 to crack the 3200 barrier -- never mind 3600 LOL. :D Let's see some new entries in the official Core 2 overclocking database.
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I am not saying that anyone is going to get 3.6Ghz just cuz the stock multi is 9x. Simply what is bothering me the most is people slamming this chip without the proof to back up their claims. I have yet to see the benching results of an E6300 @ 266x7 vs E6400 @ 266x7 vs and E4300 @ 266x7. Right away everyone sees that the E4300 OC'd to 3.38Ghz is still beatin by the "slower" X6800 @ 2.93 even tho the X6800 has 2mb more cache prolly other optimizations due to being an "EXTREME" chip.
 
jbmx4life said:
WTF are you talking about..... this chip cannot compare to the X6800 no matter what. Of course it would for surely need to go fatser than the X6800 to get the same score.... it has less cache! If you look at the stock clocks there is no comparison there either since the E6300 runs a 266 FSB vs. the 200FSB that the E4300 runs. A direct comparison between these 2 chips would be to run them at the same FSB on the same multi and then see what happens.
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Is really that big a difference?

356FSB vs 400FSB on my e6600 is maybe a 30-40 point increase in 3dmark06.
 
i think whats going on is that the e-4300's are tossed off the same fabrication as the other core-2;s but what happens is that the marginal and over production chips end up being converted over to e-4300. so you get a few good cores that were from 6300's and 6400's but you also get some marginal cores that couldn't take much high fsb--made into the 200fsb-4300s.--so the question with the 4300s --what are the odds of getting a good chip for high fsb ? it is still a decent over clocker with a mb that has low fsb limits like the 945p's and vias .the odds for a good chip for a high fsb oc are still with the e-6000 series for the time being. a e-4300 with a good core would be the ideal solution. but intel is going to make us play--eny-meany-miny mo !-- and kill the economy of the chip by making ocers buy more e-4300s to find a good one--needle in a haystack !:cool: :eek:
 
No, the E4300 is AllenDale design. These are not Conroe-rejects. Yes they are all one big happy Core2 family, but while the E6300 & E6400 are Conroe with half the cache disabled, the Allendales are built with only 2 megs to start with. The Allendale are done from a different mask and different dies from what I have read.
 
wdn said:
3600 ?? Well as they say, talk is cheap -- I'm still waiting for somebody with an E4300 to crack the 3200 barrier -- never mind 3600 LOL. :D Let's see some new entries in the official Core 2 overclocking database.
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I ran my E4300 at 380x9=3420 for about a day. Got worried about the heat though due to the goofy Ninja Rev. B mounting bracket. I didn't run Orthos was just doing desktop stuff, gaming, and DivX because at that time I didn't know about all those requirements for inclusion. Not going to try and repeat it until I get my Ninja issue resolved.
 
Well if UPS ever gets to my damned doorstep today, my E4300 is on the truck awaiting delivery. I got my LGA775 bracket for my Vapochill Micro yesterday from ePowerhousepc.com so I am ready to get goin!
 
I bought my E6300 months ago for $150 and enjoying 3 ghz with default voltage on this chip. I could definitely go higher if I wanted but I have ddr2-667 which is limiting and don't have a powerful vidcard like a 8800gtx. There's no point trying to hit higher unless for e-penis.

E4300 clocking near 3.6ghz is rare and the ones that clock high need real good cooling with high voltage. Most of them hit near 3.0ghz. I was enjoying my chip months ago for cheaper price.
 
My own goal is to reach 3.2 GHz, which should hopefully be possible :)
 
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