2707 or 3007?

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wombar

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Hi All,

I'm in the market for a new monitor and the 3007-HC and 2707 fall into my price bracket (£1000-£1400). However, I've got a few questions about the features available on both of these monitors. I figure it's probably best if I tell you what I need from the monitor, and hopefully some of you can give me some guidance.

1) I don't game, so resolution is not an issue with regards to having a powerful rig.

2) I work from home doing web dev, graphics etc so a nice high resolution would be good. Currently using a 19" viewsonic which is feeling distinctly small these days.

3) I sit about 2 feet away from my current monitor. There's not much space to increase that distance, is the 3007 going to be too big sitting that close?

4) Ideally I'd like to be able to connect my AV amp to the monitor as it has composite out with all my consoles connected to it at the moment. Is it possible to get a switch box(i.e. composite to DVI etc) that will support the 3007 or is that wishful thinking? This isn't a massive requirement as I can use my TV card(which has composite in) which is what I do at the moment but it would be nice to have a monitor that can run my consoles as well.

5) My current viewsonic has an uneven backlight which is more noticeable in Photoshop. When I have a solid colour, top to bottom of the screen, I can see it is lighter at the top than at the bottom. Does this occur with the higher end monitors these days? Again it's not a massive issue but can be a pain when trying to do fine colour adjustments.

At the moment, the 2707 is probably closer to my needs, but I just feel that I'd always be thinking that I should have gone for the 30" instead. What do you guys think?
 
Can your current card do dual link DVI ?

If so, then the 30 incher is the way to go.
 
My current card can't do Dual Link but I can pick up a simple 7600GT that claims to do Dual Link for £100 or so.

I don't mind spending the money on the 30", but ideally it would be nice if I could have something that I can plug an Xbox 360/HD DVD player into without having to tear my hair out. I'm just wondering how easy it is to use the 30" to do normal things like plugging in a PS2 etc. It's not something that I do often, but would be nice to have the option with such a big screen.

Obviously this monitor only has a DVI connection because of the super high resolution and isn't really meant for games consoles, but it would certainly be nice to have lots of options.
 
wombar said:
My current card can't do Dual Link but I can pick up a simple 7600GT that claims to do Dual Link for £100 or so.

I don't mind spending the money on the 30", but ideally it would be nice if I could have something that I can plug an Xbox 360/HD DVD player into without having to tear my hair out. I'm just wondering how easy it is to use the 30" to do normal things like plugging in a PS2 etc. It's not something that I do often, but would be nice to have the option with such a big screen.

Obviously this monitor only has a DVI connection because of the super high resolution and isn't really meant for games consoles, but it would certainly be nice to have lots of options.
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Sounds like a no brainer to me then...2707 is much more flexible than the 3007.
 
Forget PS2:s, xboxes etc CRAP! Once you've used the 30" for a week you'll hate yourself for even thinking about a 27" low res monitor. If you look at the monitor from 2 feet away, the low pixel pitch on the 27" will certainly be annoying. 30" has a pixel pitch of 0.25 vs 0.3 for the 27.
 
I 've had the 2707wfp for two weeks now. It is not low rez! It is an awsome monitor. You would not be disappointed in it.
 
i own a 3007..and im loving it...i went from 2407 to this and feel that the upgrade was really great..
 
I don't think the 27" can be classed as low rez, just not as high rez as the 30" :)

I'm certainly leaning towards the 30" at the moment purely because I very rarely use any external sources such as a PS2 etc and I can always run it through my TV card which is what I do at the moment.

I've spoken to Dell today and they reckon they can supply me with a 3007-WFP-HC for £1200 which isn't too bad but I'm thinking I can haggle that down a fair bit more.

Do the extra connections on the 2707 actually work as they should, and is the quality decent? I know it might sound like a stupid question, but I'd hate to get the 2707 and find it doesn't actually work that well.
 
If you were a gamer, I would say go for the 2707 just due to the fact that you don't have to push around as many pixels. BUT, at the current price of the 2707 I just can't recomend that thing to anyone.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm still seriously in two minds about this, I sit in front of this thing all day so obviously I want something that is going to serve me faithfully for years to come.

I dunno, it's a tough choice :) Anyone know what the returns policy for Dell UK is like? Will they pick up the monitor if I decide to return it? Do I have to pay for the return carriage?

The one thing that REALLY worries me about 30" is that I'm going to be sat too close.
 
With the rez of the 30" you will have to sit close. That is not an issue. A lot of people on hear sit 3 feet away from the huge 37" westinghouse screens. But personally I would even buy the 24" dell instead of the 30". Because if with a monitor that big and expensive i would not be able to justify it to myself to be used only for the pc.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone.

thefewtheproud said:
With the rez of the 30" you will have to sit close. That is not an issue. A lot of people on hear sit 3 feet away from the huge 37" westinghouse screens. But personally I would even buy the 24" dell instead of the 30". Because if with a monitor that big and expensive i would not be able to justify it to myself to be used only for the pc.
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This is my worry, it's a lot of money and in an ideal world I'd be able to use it for everything. I'm after a monitor with the 92% colour gamut which is why I'm looking at the 2707 and 3007HC otherwise I would seriously consider the 24".
 
I have a 20" 4:3 LCD and sit about 2' away from it too. The reason I mention this is because the 20" has about the same pixel pitch as the 30" (0.255 vs 0.25). 2' is a comfortable distance for me to read text on my monitor. I could probably go as far back as 2.5', but at 3' the text starts getting too small--my vision isn't perfect. So for me personally, if I were to get the 30" LCD I would have to view it from about 2' away. You're probably in a similar situation as I am then.

So now your question is will it be too big at that distance? There's a simple way to find out--make a cardboard cutout with the dimensions of the screen. The actual display area comes out to about 25.5" x 15.9". Just make a cutout with those dimensions, put it 2 feet away from you, and see how much you have to move your head to see from side to side and corner to corner. That should help.
 
So based on the logic of counting all the sub pixels….I drive a seven door car…four entry doors, one gas door, one engine access door (aka a hood) and a cargo access door (aka the trunk).

Brilliant!
 
First you said, you do not game.
Then you state, that you need the screen for your xbox.
So if you go for the 27", gaming is your first goal.
Everyone who needs a big screen for work, goes for the high resolution. :confused:
 
What's so much better with the 27 for gaming? Everything I've read says the 30" has little to no ghosting, excellent off axis viewing, and great color rendition.
 
willi42 said:
First you said, you do not game.
Then you state, that you need the screen for your xbox.
So if you go for the 27", gaming is your first goal.
Everyone who needs a big screen for work, goes for the high resolution. :confused:
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He made references in that same point about resolution and powerful rigs, so I'm sure he meant no PC gaming.
 
MentatYP said:
He made references in that same point about resolution and powerful rigs, so I'm sure he meant no PC gaming.
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Yes sorry I should have been clearer:) I don't game on my PC at all, purely because I don't have the time or machine these days. I'll play the occassional console game, but those are few and VERY far between.

I don't have a 360 at the moment, but I'm going to be getting a loan of one indefinitely when my brother goes travelling this year so I thought it would be nice if I could get GOW going on a nice big screen.

HOWEVER, I will be using this screen 90% of the time for my business doing web dev, photoshop, illustrator etc and the extra space would be a god send. I tend to work with a lot of windows/programs open at once and the 30" would go a long way to freeing up some space.

I'm about 90% set on the 30", but I just have little voice in the back of my head saying that it would be nice if the monitor could do it all. I doubt the performance of my TV card is going to be anything to shout about feeding sources in through composite but then that's not what the 30" is about.

However, I still need to haggle Dell down to a good price, although I'm willing to spend the money on the 30" I know they can do better than £1200:)
 
Sorry to interject a non-topic product, but I just got my BenQ FP241W 24" last night and it's a fantastic monitor (all 5ish hours I've used it so far.)

I wanted to go with either that or the Dell 30". I sit about 2.5' away from my computer monitor and my head movement is minimal. The colors are fantastic (as I expected) and even text is looking good on it (a big concern for me, I'm a software developer.)

I was between the Dell 30" and the BenQ 24" for a VERY long time before I finally settled on the BenQ (it took almost 3 MONTHS to decide on one.) I settled on the BenQ 24" because of the viewing distance.... 6" more would simply be too much to take in at one time given my current living situation (not a cramped place, just a cramped desk!) Once I realized just how large a 24" screen is (when I unpacked it) I was relieved that I didn't go with the 30" screen. The screen would've been too large for what I would've used it for (gaming, programming).

In a few years, once I've adjusted myself to the 24" screen and it feels "small" (I don't know how, but that's probably just the buyer's awe kicking in) I will undoubtedly go to a 30" screen with 2560x1600 resolution.

Sorry if this doesn't help you get closer to a solution!

202276
 
My Dell 2405 got small when the 3007 hit the market. I gave it to my wife for her WOW sessions.
Now i am used to 2560x1600. Even in gaming i do not go below this resolution.
 
cb9fl said:
What's so much better with the 27 for gaming? Everything I've read says the 30" has little to no ghosting, excellent off axis viewing, and great color rendition.
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1) You have to have a very powerful PC to be able to game on the 30" due to the super high resolution
2) The native resolution on the 2707 is superior for Xbox 360, PS3, and HDTV set top box.
 
the 27" 's dot pitch is 0.303mm. Too large. Wait for the Samsung 30", it c/w backlit tech., far better than the dell.
 
Well...if the price doesn't start dropping soon on the 2707 to something more realistic, I'm probably going to pull the trigger on a 3007.

Dell outlet has 3007's for $1049.
 
I would get the 2707 since you have other things besides pc to connect to it. Otherwise your paying almost $2000 for a solely pc monitor that wont even be used for pc gaming. I just wouldnt do that. The 27" seems great plus its got all the inputs and a new design. It would be a different story if you were a pc gamer but for basic productivity its doesnt make sense. Also, Remember that if you go with dell outlet your are given a mere 90 day warrenty. Kind of scary to pay $1000 dollars for a refurb item and only have a 90day warrenty.
 
go 2707.

i know the 3007 is prettier, has a higher resolution and all that, but the extra component inputs on the 2707 just appeal more to the all around user.

plug in your xbox 360/ plug in a tv cable box, plug in whatever you want to those component things and you can run that monitor like its a tv.

(i do that for my 2405).
 
thefewtheproud said:
Also, Remember that if you go with dell outlet your are given a mere 90 day warrenty. Kind of scary to pay $1000 dollars for a refurb item and only have a 90day warrenty.
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Whoa. I thought they came with the standard 3 yr warranty. That's a whole world of difference then. No way I'm doing that.

To the poster above who asked about the dell outlet...its found here:
http://www.delloutlet.com
 
that monitor cant hold a candle to the dells. Its got 800:1 contrast no extra inputs no usb porths no card reader no adjustability and, if i remember correcly those suffer from bad backlight bleed.
 
Stoney said:
I was in the same boat as you trying to decide between the 27" & 30".
Then i saw this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009101
I'm very happy with the acer and the money i saved over the dell.
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Thanks very much for the suggestion, but if I'm going to go for 1920 x 1200 I'd really want a monitor with plenty of connections for consoles etc. The more I think about it, the more I'm drawn towards the 30", purely because I think the last time I played a console game was probably this time last year.

The sheer scale of the thing still worries me a little, but it's probably going to be a few weeks at least until I can beat Dell down to a price that I'm happy with anyway.
 
I’m thinking seriously about the Dell 30” also. Your statement leads me to ask you specifically and anybody else on this forum, how can you or I “beat" or rather negotiate Dell down in price? Seems to me other than the HP 30” that they are the only game in town at this time and other than clearing inventory for their new 30” I don’t see any emphasis for them to deal with buyers.

Thanks

Shemp
 
Shemp said:
I’m thinking seriously about the Dell 30” also. Your statement leads me to ask you specifically and anybody else on this forum, how can you or I “beat" or rather negotiate Dell down in price? Seems to me other than the HP 30” that they are the only game in town at this time and other than clearing inventory for their new 30” I don’t see any emphasis for them to deal with buyers.

Thanks

Shemp
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At the moment, it's not too easy to get a good deal with Dell on the 30" HC model because as you quite rightly said there's not much competition. They're also trying to shift the old 3007 stock which means they're less keen to sell you a 3007-hc at a knock down price.

However, I was initially quoted £1299(I think:) ) for the 30" and by the end of the conversation it was down to £1199. Not a price I really wanted to pay but it was better than the first price ;) The best way is to simply ask "Is that the best price you can do?", we all know they've got some latitude with the prices, but the more they take off, the more commission they've lost.

End of the month is also a good time to call as they've almost certainly got quotas to meet and maybe you'll get the sales person who needs a few more sales to hit their quota for the month. I'm probably going to wait until the end of the month until they've officially released the 3007-HC which means they're not trying to shift an excess of old 3007's and will hopefully have some better deals.

Although it's pain going through the call centres, it's definitely worth it. You just need to get the right sales person on the right day.
 
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