8800GTX 2D extremely blurry on DVI-1 and 2

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EDIT - Problem "solved" by going back to 96.xx drivers that came on the stock driver CD. However, I have major shadow rendering problems in Oblivion with the 96.xx drivers so I'm going back to the 97.02's for now and just using an analog connection until nvidia releases some newer drivers that (hopefully) fix both problems.

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Title says it all... at native res with the 97.02 drivers, my desktop is VERY blurry... just awful quality. I tried switching to DVI-2 and that fixed it for one boot cycle, but when I tried 1 again, blurry... back to 2, still blurry. Tried uninstalling and re-installing drivers, still blurry. This is at native LCD res at both 60 and 75 Hz over DVI.

No that's not shot variation, that's how it actually looks... I used manual focus and put the camera on a stack of books, didn't move it between shots, just changed from digital to analog input on the monitor (you can tell it's not shot variation because you can actually pick out the monitor pixels themselves in each shot)

Notice especially the change in white brightness in the "I think that" as well as the wild variation in color saturation in the date/time above the post. Also notice how the t's in "that" appear to have major ghosting on the DVI to DVI image.

DVI to VGA converter to Analog monitor input:
dvitovgathumb.jpg


DVI to DVI:
dvithumb.jpg
 
They're the same as they were before on my GX2, and "auto" doesn't work over DVI, only VGA, which is gonna be my next step (not that I expect it to help)
 
Try the latest beta drivers? That seems to be the one a lot of the sites are using to review with.
 
Displaying through a VGA->DVI connector works fine, everything is crystal clear.

So why isn't direct DVI?
 
Maybe you need a stronger DVI cable? That'd be weird if it was true. What LCD do you have? (sorry if you mentioned it) And does it have the auto adjust feature? Try that?
 
Mr. Stryker said:
Maybe you need a stronger DVI cable? That'd be weird if it was true. What LCD do you have? (sorry if you mentioned it) And does it have the auto adjust feature? Try that?

It's a Samsung 940BW. One weird thing I'm noticing is that the DVI-VGA adapter that comes with the card doesn't fit in the monitor DVI port... there are extra pins in places where the monitor DVI doesn't have holes. The actual DVI cable itself can plug into the monitor and the card fine, but I can't actually test the DVI connector on the monitor because the card output is using more pins than the monitor has... could this be some sort of DVI-I vs DVI-D issue? (Sorry if that sounds ignorant, I've never really understood what the difference was.

The weird thing is that DVI looks fine on my 7950GX2, *and* this is the weirdest part: DVI-2 looked fine on this card for *one* session but ever since it too is fuzzy.
 
then reinstalling them? you should always do this with videocards, even if within the same family of cards
 
The extra pins around the spade looking connector in the DVI portion? Those are for DVI-analog signal output.
 
I am using the 97.02 beta drivers from nvidia.com. The drivers that came on the eVGA CD don't even work at all, it says it's installing "Go" and then it says I have to reboot, and when I do, it says new hardware detected again. Also, they bundled the WRONG game. The box says I'm supposed to get a copy of Messiah, but what's actually in there is Hitman: Blood Money.

Also, my monitor is detecting the incoming DVI signal as 1280x1024 at 75 Hz, but it's very obviously displaying 1440x900, just very blurry. On analog, however, everything displays fine and clear, and detects 1440x900 properly. Using DVI also worked fine with my 7950GX2.

So what's the issue? I got a seemingly outdated bundle with bad drivers and a card that can't work over DVI? Has no one else experienced an issue like this? I got my eVGA from NewEgg... They might be replacing it for me soon...
 
Wasn't there a recall on the GTX's before they were released due to an issue with the 2d/3d switcher thingy... Ya I forgot what it was called. Perhaps yours wasn't corrected?
 
inscape01 said:
Wasn't there a recall on the GTX's before they were released due to an issue with the 2d/3d switcher thingy... Ya I forgot what it was called. Perhaps yours wasn't corrected?
Incorrect transistor value.
 
To be more to the point - could this even cause the problem I'm having?

Secondly, eVGA publicly said that all of their cards purchased Weds were problem-free.
 
I'm on the phone with eVGA tech support, the guy said he was stumped and asked me to email him my system specs so he could talk to the lab techs. Gave me his extension so I can call him back. I will report back after I've spoken with him again.
 
Well that was pretty anti-climactic... he says ok I got your email, we'll be in touch with you by saturday.
 
Just to be sure:

1. You're running from a DVI output, to an LCD with a DVI input? No conversion to analog right?
2. You're running at the native resolution of your LCD right?

Can you post a picture of the screen doing this? Cuz seriously...DVI signals should not be capable of becoming blurry...they're digital for crying out loud!
 
Brahmzy said:
Got plenty of PSU?

Seasonic M12 600 watter with dual PCI-E connectors, 48 amps total max on the 12v

^eMpTy^ said:
Just to be sure:

1. You're running from a DVI output, to an LCD with a DVI input? No conversion to analog right?
2. You're running at the native resolution of your LCD right?

Can you post a picture of the screen doing this? Cuz seriously...DVI signals should not be capable of becoming blurry...they're digital for crying out loud!

Yes that was my thought as well. And yes, the blurry problem is a DVI connected directly from the DVI ports on the card directly to a DVI input on the monitor. The monitor is detecting the incoming signal as 1280x1024, even though the card is (supposedly) outputting 1440x900. The result is very very blurry. And yet even as I type this on my re-installed 7950GX2, everything looks fine and crisp. And if I connect the 8800GTX to the monitor's VGA port through a converter, everything ALSO looks fine.

I will add pics momentarily, gotta re-re-install the 8800 now.
 
i had a problem with a 6800GS that would display in black and white.... turned out the port on the card was loose for whatever reason

try using a little force to push the cable into the connection or jiggle it around and see if it clears it up :confused:
 
theres gotta be some kinda setting on your monitor to adjust when u switch ports, no?
[just throwing things out there for you]
 
whoa that is trippy....

1st pic looks clear til I click it and then it looks blurry

2nd pic looks blurry til I click it and then it looks clear

Thats fucked up right thurr...lol

Do you have another cable you can try?
 
jbmx4life said:
whoa that is trippy....

1st pic looks blurry til I click it and then it looks fine

2nd pic looks fine til I click it and then it looks blurry

Thats fucked up right thurr...lol

Do you have another cable you can try?

Cable works fine on my "old" 7950GX2, I just popped it back in a few minutes ago to try it, both ports DVI to DVI work fine and are crystal clear. It's only the 8800 that's putting our blurry garbage over DVI to DVI (but it too is crystal clear when using a DVI to VGA converter connected to the monitor's analog input)
 
jbmx4life said:
whoa that is trippy....

1st pic looks blurry til I click it and then it looks fine

2nd pic looks fine til I click it and then it looks blurry

Thats fucked up right thurr...lol

Do you have another cable you can try?
You said it backwards but yes the pics look exactly the opposite when you click on them.... very strange. :confused:
 
trek554 said:
You said it backwards but yes the pics look exactly the opposite when you click on them.... very strange. :confused:

fix-ded

and OP fix-ded too... sheesh
 
Arcygenical said:
Call the manufacturer...?

Yeah already talked to eVGA (read earlier in thread ;) )

They said they were stumped and asked for my system specs so they could talk to the lab techs, said they'd get back to me by Saturday.
 
Does your samsung monitor use the MagicTune software to tweak monitor settings? When the darn thing accepts to work it has sharpness control. When I slide sharpness slider all the way to 0 I get a picture exactly like you. Using X1900XTX with Samsung 193p+ .
 
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