Building my first sff rig! what do you think of my stuff?

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Nicker2009

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Here are the specs on my new rig, tell me what you think!

-APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-QPACK black/green aluminum micro ATX case with 450W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144111
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-BIOSTAR TForce6100-939 Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138264
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-Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701R

-TR2TT A4014 TR2 M14 SE (K8) Cpu Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106608
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-Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220079
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-AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103542
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-Dvd como drive

-Soundblaster live 24bit soundcard
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I'll second Steeeeve's suggestion. The Q-Pack PSU will last, oh 10 minutes before it starts reeking havoc. If you can, get a Modular sytle PSU so you don't have a bunch of unused cables taking up space in your Q-Pack.


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are they really that bad?
they didnt seem to look that bad, at least the last one i looked at.
 
they are worse than "really that bad". I would purchase a mouse on a wheel to power my computer before I used the Qpack one.
 
because that psu will go out on you randomly.
because you can / will get ood issues in your windows setup / registry
because you might have a problem with setup that will be related to the psu
becuase even your hard drive will have issues due to instability which can cause corrupted sectors on the disk.

That is reason enough
 
i was wondering also why the OP isnt going AM2 when he is buying all new everything.

I am building a SFF 939 setup with a $9 3000+ venice and a MSI mobo because i had 4x512mb stick around and wanted to use them and i got a great deal on the CPU.

plus it is only going to be used as a media server with 3 tuner cards (all hardware encoding) and 1 250GB hdd.
 
Best advice? Ask the forums before you buy! Hopefully you did.

The stock heatsink probably cools better and if you are looking for lower noise, you can easily replace the fan. The Silverstone FN82 + fan controller is a nice choice.
 
Yeah, why not go AM2? Its much newer and your upgrade path is much more thesible
 
Just my two cents. I have the qpack and have had if for about 7 months and still using the psu that came with it. Damn thing is stable. Sure based on all the negative posts on here about the psu it still amuses me that mine runs fine. I use a one of my old 6800 ultras gpu with a raptor and one gig of memory on an amd 64 3500 cpu with a biostar 939 6100 mb. as well as an creative zs2 platinum with the breakout box in front and it makes a great spare pc for the living room.

Of course when the psu craps out i already have an antec to take its place but im going to run it until than. No reason to change it out. And here is the kicker. I even stresses tested it and no hangups or restarts so im probably one of the lucky ones regarding these psu's. :D
 
There is absolutely no reason to go with s939 unless you have lots of stuff to recycle (ddr1 and/or cpu). for a new matx build definitely go am2 or 775, am2 if you want to OC (I assume you do).

I would get the abit nView board, ddr2 533 or 667. I agree with the suggestion about the ultra case, it's much improved over the qpack (space, power supply, cooling). If the abit is too expensive or you don't want to wait, get the epox am2 board instead. I've worked with both cases, and you do want to avoid the qpack. You won't need to spend $ on a soundcard if you get the abit, and if you do spend $ on a soundcard I would suggest one of the cheap xfis.

Personally I would get either the antec nsk2400 or 3300, you'll have fewer issues and the power supplies are top notch. if you *really* need something small consider the nsk1300.

You won't need to swap the cooler, so save some $ there - the 4400+ and up come with the nice amd copper heatpipe cooler which is equivalent to anything aftermarket except heatsinks in the scythe ninja class.
 
the reason i went with the 939 is because theres not a huge significant difference. sure dddr2 everyone will say but look at the timings.... with those kida timings your speed usualy dont mean anything unless you pay out the ass. and the t-force mobo is prolly the best mobo ive used ever. overclocking is great, and its very stable.
 
Nicker2009 said:
the reason i went with the 939 is because theres not a huge significant difference. sure dddr2 everyone will say but look at the timings.... with those kida timings your speed usualy dont mean anything unless you pay out the ass. and the t-force mobo is prolly the best mobo ive used ever. overclocking is great, and its very stable.
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ATM the best matx mobo is an AM2 board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127013
Im not saying that 939 is dead(I have 2 with a boatload of ddr) just that if youre building a new
system from scratch why not go with the new platform that will have more options in the near future ;) cough<quadcore>cough
 
Nicker2009 said:
the reason i went with the 939 is because theres not a huge significant difference. sure dddr2 everyone will say but look at the timings.... with those kida timings your speed usualy dont mean anything unless you pay out the ass. and the t-force mobo is prolly the best mobo ive used ever. overclocking is great, and its very stable.
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There are much better boards (abit nView), poster above me linked it as well. You can recycle ddr2 later for an intel build. You don't need to spend a lot of money on ram, everyone knows about diminishing returns.

Again, unless you are recycling a lot of parts it makes very little sense to spend money on socket 939. But if you've convinced yourself already, make yourself happy!
 
939 sucks, there is not a single reason to buy it. Even if AM2 is marginally faster (5%), its still a reason why its better than 939, and 939 is in no way beter than AM2, thats why its older. If you wanna be stubburn and waste your money, fine.
 
zzz..

am2 + matx 6100 board + ddr2 + oc > 939 in cost performance ratio.. actually, am2 is cheaper in most cases. You won't really be missing any memory timings either. With ddr2's increased memory bandwith and better options for an upgrade path, the timing doesn't matter so much as you think. I can outbench most 939's all day long with my am2 + cl5 memory vs somone in a 939 with cl3 memory.
 
personaly i think 939 still kicks ass to this day, im just not convinced on am2 yet. and quadcore wont happen foe a while
 
Ignorance really doesn't pay off in the computer world with changing technology.
 
Typical responses for the most part.

I have built a few qpack systems, and have never had one problem with the psu that comes with. They have been rock solid and run daily for 6 months to over a year. Yes, i read jonny guru's review. Nothing against him, but despite all those who are ready to jump on the back of anyone who mentions the use of one, i have had no problems with them, and won't join your bandwagon.

Socket 939 is still a very viable solution, and the prices have dropped VERY attractively. Not everyone needs the cutting or bleeding edge. I know people still using pentium 3 machines and they are still trying to avoid upgrading. Even if the OP waits a year or two before he makes his next move, he will most certainly find someone who wants his current pc down the line, and they will be content with its performance. Look around on the forums - there are plenty users here just getting ready to move off their athlon xp systems, or p4 2.4's. Stop flaming our guy here, the system he's building will be more than adequate for most any need he might have of it.

Good luck with your build man. Interested in an x1800xt pe ?
 
I'll sell you a brand new mirror blue color Hiper 580w power supply for $75 shipped. Its never been used yet. Great power supplies, I already have 3 running in different rigs. PM me if you're interested. It is perfect for a qpack because its modular and doesn't have a clusterfuck of wires. :)
 
I have found that by the time a computer is too slow to use, all the parts are incompatable with the current best purchase.

The 939 Athlon 3700+ is a good deal now. It runs my HTPC with 4 tuners. I just bought one.

The AM2 AthlonX2 4400+ is not a bad deal. But it will cost $200 more for a basic system. It is an office computer. I just bought one.
 
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