Will G80 be faster then current SLI

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WIll the next Gen SINGLY chip G80 perform faster then current 1x GEFORCE 7950 GX2 1gb or 2x Geforce 7900 GT ?

As G80 seems to have far larger number of Unified Shaders.
 
In all probability, yes, if the card follows the trend set by the 6800 to 7800 transition. a single 7800 pretty much beat SLI'ed 6800s in every scenario, I am expecting the same this time around.
 
This happens all the time, which is why the argument for "buy one card now, and another 1 or 2 years later" for SLI or CF makes very little sense. More times than not, a newer single card, is faster than older SLI cards. And a good chance its more advanced with newer features. Such as looks to be the case with the G80.
 
Marvelous said:
I don't it will this time around...
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No.. your right.. with the amount of Unified shaders it had, it could beat out QUAD SLI... and the ram... and the new Arc..
 
RaphaelVinceti said:
No.. your right.. with the amount of Unified shaders it had, it could beat out QUAD SLI... and the ram... and the new Arc..
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awawaw i just spend $600 and upgraded from gfx Card from ATI Radeon x1900 to Geforce 7950 GX2 . Ive seens a huge difference in gaming, and i can run all my games at 1600x1200 @ultra high detail with 4xAA /16x AF . ATI simply suxed for me( low performance and too many driver issues in past). I simply did the best thing ever going with Geforce 7950 GX2. And this is the best card ive had since Geforce Ti4600.

But its sad that i spend $600 on something that is going to be replaced soon, and will be beated by even singly G80 GFX Card. But then thats why i love Ebay :cool:
 
MCRAYGSX said:
awawaw i just spend $600 and upgraded from gfx Card from ATI Radeon x1900 to Geforce 7950 GX2 . Ive seens a huge difference in gaming, and i can run all my games at 1600x1200 @ultra high detail with 4xAA /16x AF . ATI simply suxed for me( low performance and too many driver issues in past). I simply did the best thing ever going with Geforce 7950 GX2. And this is the best card ive had since Geforce Ti4600.

But its sad that i spend $600 on something that is going to be replaced soon, and will be beated by even singly G80 GFX Card. But then thats why i love Ebay :cool:
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I'm happy you didn't have any problems with the 7950GX2, I installed one for a friend and it was so upsetting trying to get that thing to work properly my friend just opted tos end it back and get a X1900XT 256, I think he just wanted to save money anyways but still congrats on your card
 
MCRAYGSX said:
WIll the next Gen SINGLY chip G80 perform faster then current 1x GEFORCE 7950 GX2 1gb or 2x Geforce 7900 GT ?

As G80 seems to have far larger number of Unified Shaders.
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If the G80 specs out there, are real, then most definitely yes. G80 seems to be a monster. I doubt there's anything DX9, that you throw at it and it doesn't run it @ 2560x1600 with all the eye candy on and probably even more, with the rumored new AA mode.
Of course, we still don't have anything like benchmarks to prove this yet, but the specs are really insane.
 
MCRAYGSX said:
awawaw i just spend $600 and upgraded from gfx Card from ATI Radeon x1900 to Geforce 7950 GX2 . Ive seens a huge difference in gaming, and i can run all my games at 1600x1200 @ultra high detail with 4xAA /16x AF . ATI simply suxed for me( low performance and too many driver issues in past). I simply did the best thing ever going with Geforce 7950 GX2. And this is the best card ive had since Geforce Ti4600.

But its sad that i spend $600 on something that is going to be replaced soon, and will be beated by even singly G80 GFX Card. But then thats why i love Ebay
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I don't think that's really anything to regret. You won't need to upgrade from a 7950 GX2 anytime soon. Only if you want to try the first DX10 games, but even those, you'll be able to play them in DX9 (at first at least).
 
Silus said:
If the G80 specs out there, are real, then most definitely yes. G80 seems to be a monster. I doubt there's anything DX9, that you throw at it and it doesn't run it @ 2560x1600 with all the eye candy on and probably even more, with the rumored new AA mode.
Of course, we still don't have anything like benchmarks to prove this yet, but the specs are really insane.
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Doesn't it have 16xAA compatibility? I can't imagine it'll run well at high res with ALL the eye candy enabled.
 
crossfire and sli = bad investment.
G80 = better performance than latest sli and cf.(like that other guy said).
people who have a 1280x1024 res monitor like me just need 1 really good gfx card for gaming, and are never going to need quad-sli or power hungry monsters like that.
 
CF and SLI are really for the people who run at higher settings than the current generation of single cards can push effectively. My 7900GT SLi just can't keep up with 1920x1080 at all the settings I want. I'm hoping a 8800GTX can. (And to make sure I have no bottlenecks, I'll be upgrading to C2D and 4GB of ram(Yes, I know 32bit XP only supports 3GB) at the same time.)
 
polive said:
Doesn't it have 16xAA compatibility? I can't imagine it'll run well at high res with ALL the eye candy enabled.
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Well, I was only speculating based on the G80 specs floating around and general rumors. If they are correct and the extra 256 MBs of video RAM, are going to be used for AA only, I don't see why 16xAA can't be an option, for smooth gameplay, even at those high resolutions.
But as I also said, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
RaphaelVinceti said:
In all probability, yes, if the card follows the trend set by the 6800 to 7800 transition. a single 7800 pretty much beat SLI'ed 6800s in every scenario, I am expecting the same this time around.
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Exactly. It's next generation tech in every way possible. Unified shaders, a deeper interface, a more efficient architecture. It would pretty much pwn 7900GTs in SLI, but the differences would be less with the 7950GX2.
 
I believe it will but only because quad SLi seems to be limited by the Direct X 9 API as it was written in a way that does not optimize for 4 alternate frames. because of this quad sli only shines in a handful of games. I believe the G80 will be faster than 7900GTX and Quad SLi but not by much. The thing to watch out for in the future would be quad SLi or Quad X-fire in a DX10 environment as it will not be crippled as DX9 seems to be. ;)
 
Crysis will be worth playing on the G80... 3 years back Far Cry was the first game that really demonstrated DX 9.0. Before that you had a mixture of DX 8.1 shaders and 9.0b shaders. And this time around Crysis will be the trend setter for DX 10 as well. So in all fairness, one can spend money on the type of game he wants to play.
 
I think G80 will beat out current 7 series SLI, however, I hope it can do that while maintaining a higher level of image quality.. I want G80 to beat the best ATI card with full AF on and lookin sweet
 
madgun said:
Crysis will be worth playing on the G80... 3 years back Far Cry was the first game that really demonstrated DX 9.0. Before that you had a mixture of DX 8.1 shaders and 9.0b shaders. And this time around Crysis will be the trend setter for DX 10 as well. So in all fairness, one can spend money on the type of game he wants to play.
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Not really, it'll release on 9.0c then a patch will give it a few of the basic DX10 features, I don't think we'll see a real DX10 game for a while.
 
I'll probably suffer with my X1950XTX Crossfire setup, and then wait until ATi's next gen cards come out, then make my choice.

That is unless G80 is vastly superior to Quad SLi, and dual X1950XTX's. In such a case, I might just grab G80, but I will have to wait and see.
 
The 8800gtx will have a performance increase of 13.37% over the current 7900gtx SLI cards benchmarked on a AM2 590 chipset. Yes, my speculation skills are that awesome.


sigh..

/speculation plz
 
w1retap said:
The 8800gtx will have a performance increase of 13.37% over the current 7900gtx SLI cards benchmarked on a AM2 590 chipset. Yes, my speculation skills are that awesome.


sigh..

/speculation plz
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You could be right. Don't lose hope young Jedi.
 
w1retap said:
sigh..

/speculation plz
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No, that's what keeps things interesting around here. Otherwise we'd all just sit around like zombies waiting for the cards to come out. :p

And btw, I think the 8800GTX is going to be faster than a 7900GTX SLi and tied with 2x 7950GX2's (if there driver support gets better anytime soon).
 
We need a sub-forum on [H] labeled "off the wall speculation thread and/or rumors with no physical evidence".
 
pfft.. thread? We need a whole sub-forum dedicated to it. lol. :p

edit: now that I think about it, thats not really a bad idea. I'll put my idea in the forum feedback sub-forum for the mods to look at.
 
How can they launch G80 series in mid Nov , because they havent shipped out Engineering samples yet ?
 
MCRAYGSX said:
How can they launch G80 series in mid Nov , because they havent shipped out Engineering samples yet ?
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engineering samples have been out for along time, just was keep underwraps ;)
 
MCRAYGSX said:
How can they launch G80 series in mid Nov , because they havent shipped out Engineering samples yet ?
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because they can.
 
fallguy said:
This happens all the time, which is why the argument for "buy one card now, and another 1 or 2 years later" for SLI or CF makes very little sense. More times than not, a newer single card, is faster than older SLI cards. And a good chance its more advanced with newer features. Such as looks to be the case with the G80.
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I agree completely, it has been said time and time again
 
is no one else surprised that the newer dx10 cards are not equipped with gddr4?
 
zflajs said:
is no one else surprised that the newer dx10 cards are not equipped with gddr4?
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A little, I guess they're trying to stretch GDDR3 to it's limits....

But I remember reading something on how GDDR4 wouldn't be as fast or somebody was having trouble making it or something to that effect.
 
R600 is going to have GDDR4 thats about how much we know about it...

GDDR4 is fast, it just has high latencies, theres no problem with its production at this time
 
zflajs said:
is no one else surprised that the newer dx10 cards are not equipped with gddr4?
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I am sure that the engineers at nVidia looked at the option of using GDDR4.
 
I think right after First launch of G80's they will soon tweak a card bit and come out with DDR4 by Q1 2007
 
zflajs said:
is no one else surprised that the newer dx10 cards are not equipped with gddr4?
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I believe that NVIDIA is preparing a few surprises. After they take over the market with G80 (while R600 is not out yet), they'll have plenty of time to prepare the G80 refresh, to either counter R600, if needed, or simply increase their lead. Then we'll probably see GDDR4 in G80.
 
Trimlock said:
R600 is going to have GDDR4 thats about how much we know about it...

GDDR4 is fast, it just has high latencies, theres no problem with its production at this time
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There could be supply issues if both nV and ATi went with GDDR4 for now, I think this was one of the major reasons nV decided to stick with gddr3 for now, and also with the increased bus size they really had no need to go with higher clocks. Plus there is an economic factor too, GDDR3 left overs will be dirt cheap now.
 
what over-awes me the most is the presence of 128 shaders, and thats gonna count for something .
 
The G80 might truely be faster than current cards but we will not know how much till they are out and used in the real world. As someone posted earlier that a 7800GTX was faster than 2 6800 in SLI, Well I can say that in the real world that is not true. When I built my current computer last Jan I purchased a 7800GTX after everyone posting that it was faster than 2 6800 in SLI and people were posting benchmarks to prove it. Well I put my new system together and found out that my old computer with 2 6600 GT in SLI was doing an avg 10 more FPS than my new system. Needless to say my daughters comp ended up with the 7800GTX and my comp has the 6600GT in SLI. I think the only real gain is going to be with high resolutions. For those like me that play at 1280 x 1024, The SLI produces more FPS. And both of my computers are very comparable. The old one which is now my daughters is an ASUS A8N SLI Premium with FX-55 and 2Gram. My new comp is an ASUS A8N32SLI Deluxe with a 3800X2 and now 2G ram. Was !G for most of the year.
 
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