DDR2 prices rising???

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Is it me or are prices for DDR2 going up? At least $100 more than before.... :mad:
 
Yeah they are going up, it really sucks. Same with DDR... I dont think anyone has a real answer about why this is happening but it sucks. Good thing i got the gb i have fairly cheap.
 
You're right, they're rising. Be nice if they go back down to what they were about a month or so ago... :(
 
Yeah I run a computer shop and we've had to up the prices on our systems and the RAM itself because the prices have gone up by ~50% in some cases. I'm sure that all the big name OEMs have bought high quantities of RAM at an arranged price which has put the manufacturers under more pressure. Unfortunately we suffer the higher prices.

I'm just glad I got the RAM for my Core2 Duo system before the prices went up :).
 
I just noticed exactly the same thing. I bought a 2gb kit (Patriot DDR2 667 PDC22G5300LLK) for $180 barely two weeks ago for my Core 2 Duo system.

Well, after someone on another forum was discussing solid-state memory, I checked the price at the same retailer and I'll be damned if it isn't $269.99 now.

I was really annoyed with myself that I bought a 7900 GT KO Superclocked a week before the 7950GT came out, but it seems I definitely caught the bus on DDR2, so I guess it's all good.
 
Sucks as I am 2 memory chips away from a new system and I dont want to buy right now because I feel like I'm getting totally ripped off... I'll see how much longer I can hold out while staring a new machine in the face that simply lacks memory :(
 
wtburnette said:
You're right, they're rising. Be nice if they go back down to what they were about a month or so ago... :(
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if people stopped buying RAM if they think that the price is too high, then they are going to back down again.
 
drizzt81 said:
if people stopped buying RAM if they think that the price is too high, then they are going to back down again.
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Don't look at me, I'm not buying any. If 2GB DDR2 falls under $200 again, I'll snatch some up. Until then forget it. ;)
 
Well, this puts a stop into planng my concore, first the quad core, then the rumors of a new good AMD chip (K8L), rising video card prices, waiting for DX10 cars, DX10 cards being 300 watts, but DDR2 Prices on the rise, this is really iceing on the cake. All I can say is I'm not gonna upgrade my mobo, my ram, or my cpu, I'm gonna sit on what I have, and the only markets that haven’t lost my money yet are, Video Cards, Cases, and Hard Drives.

I'll be waiting for the Core 2 Duo (Quad) VS K8L (Quad) to begin, and ddr2 prices to drop, once those 2 things happen (ram goes down, amd comes out and we know who's better) will the mobo makers, ram makers, and cpu makers get my money once again.
 
wtburnette said:
Don't look at me, I'm not buying any. If 2GB DDR2 falls under $200 again, I'll snatch some up. Until then forget it. ;)
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I wasn't looking at you. I did not buy any either.
 
drizzt81 said:
I wasn't looking at you. I did not buy any either.
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No, but you did quote me. Generally you do that when you're responding to a particular person, not speaking in general. I agree with your statement though... :D
 
Wow prices really have gone up!

The Patriot DDR2 667 memory I bought costed me $180 msrp from the egg + $20 mir, now it's $290 msrp! :eek:
 
I regularly receive email from a taiwanese/chinese company for memory prices quantities of 1000 units because I helped settle a deal for some oem buyer in my country and they (mem company) contacted me for early negotiations (easiest 5K I ever made with a free trip to china). Here is the price for 1000 units of 1GB DDR2-800 I received on different days during the past couple months, bare in mind this is just for 1000 units and prices are negotiable as always with chinese/taiwanese companies so retailers get this memory for quite a bit less

14 th August 85 bucks
20 th September 125 bucks
 
Well DDR2 should go up cause all the newest platforms use it... Demand up and price up, right? (been a long time since i've had an economics class...)

And DDR should rise now since it's not on the newest platforms, so it's not being produced as much. And since technically its demand has stayed the same since not a lot of people are going with the new platforms that fast, demand stayed relatively the same while supply has fallen... which means higher prices...

right?

glad i'm not in the market for ram no matter the reason for higher prices! :p
 
Also, 2 GB is almost like an enthusiast standard and 1 GB is sort of like the industry standard. Many notebooks are equipped with 1 GB of memory when all they will do is type memos, almost all gamers have 2 GB of memory (except me because nobody warned me I couldn't play the latest games on highest settings with 1 GB so I went ahead and dumped all my money on graphics and lcd :mad: )... My point being : demand is going up also because of minimal requirements for modern apps, i.e. not just because people are buying new systems but also because they are buying new systems with twice the amount of memory compared to their older systems.
 
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It has peaked and it's on the fall right now then, at least that's what I read from the graphs. Perhaps manufacturers increased production or demand has fallen slightly because of the increased prices... Only Mushkin is still on the peak. I give it a month or two before it all evens out, maybe the prices will end up slightly higher than they were a couple months ago, maybe they'll end up slightly lower, oh well, wait and see. ;)
 
RAM prices have always been volatile.

Many of you might not be old enough to remember this, but back in the early / mid 90's, a single megabyte of 60 or 70 ns DRAM cost around 40 bucks to the average Joe.

Then, in 1994, there was an explosion at an epoxy plant in Japan, that was responsible for a mere 1% of the world's supply. Every memory manufacturer then pretty much agreed to start gouging the customers, and in a matter of a few days, we were all hit by the news of "Oh no! Now we don't have enough epoxy to make our memory modules! We must raise prices!"

Soon after that, the price of that single 60 ns SIMM (yes, we used SIMM's in those days, not DIMM's) skyrocketed to 80 bucks per unit, even though the cost of making these modules really didn't increase at all.

In reality, the "plant explosion," combined with the increasing demands for memory, since Windows 3.11 was making everyone want at least 8 MB, and preferably 16 MB of memory, and that Windows NT was just starting to get a foothold, is what triggered this price increase.

Prices did come tumbling down, but that spike did last for a good while.
 
I was going to buy another 1GB of Geil DDR 3200 for Company of Heroes, but looking at the prices I've stuck with a gig. The prices of DDR have gone up 100% in a month!
 
If AMD is coming out with their own 65nm chip soon, and quad cores are coming out as well, how in the world are DDR2 prices going to drop?
 
With Windows Vista on the horizon, there's always a good chance that prices will remain fairly high, as long as the demand is there.
 
blade52x said:
If AMD is coming out with their own 65nm chip soon, and quad cores are coming out as well, how in the world are DDR2 prices going to drop?
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Manufacturing costs/MB will continue to fall. Unfortunately supply:demand ratio is poor right now, but memory manufacturers aren't stupid and I am sure they are ramping up DDR2 produciton as they are phasing out DDR1.
 
Makes me glad I got my 2 GB of OCZ Titanium when I did. $158 after rebate. Now Platinum, which is a step below is almost $300. Wow.
 
J-Mag said:
Manufacturing costs/MB will continue to fall. Unfortunately supply:demand ratio is poor right now, but memory manufacturers aren't stupid and I am sure they are ramping up DDR2 produciton as they are phasing out DDR1.
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With the current DDR2 prices, memory makers are likely to be able to increase production in order to make more profit...
Rabid Badger said:
Makes me glad I got my 2 GB of OCZ Titanium when I did. $158 after rebate. Now Platinum, which is a step below is almost $300. Wow.
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yeah, I wish I had done that too. oh well, i am not going to move to conroe until the prices are back into normal regions.
 
drizzt81 said:
With the current DDR2 prices, memory makers are likely to be able to increase production in order to make more profit...
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Prices don't spur production increases, demand does. Price is a function of demand and production...
 
J-Mag said:
Prices don't spur production increases, demand does. Price is a function of demand and production...
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Ok, long way:

I assume that production has stayed constant for a while at P1, and demand has risen from D1 to D2, where D2 > D1, based on the increase in price. If there is a production amount P* that will allow a company to make more profit, assuming a constant demand D2, the company should produce amount P*.
 
drizzt81 said:
Ok, long way:

I assume that production has stayed constant for a while at P1, and demand has risen from D1 to D2, where D2 > D1, based on the increase in price. If there is a production amount P* that will allow a company to make more profit, assuming a constant demand D2, the company should produce amount P*.
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Your assumptions are wrong here, but the concepts between your "constant" variables are good.

Just doing a quick google search provides the following:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2005Jan/bch20050131028926.htm
http://www.physorg.com/preview11695.html
http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/default.asp?ArticleID=17817

Samsung in the above example has consistently been increasing DDR2 production this year.

Also, Demand is never constant and DDR2 demand has been rising consistently.
 
J-Mag said:
Your assumptions are wrong here, but the concepts between your "constant" variables are good.

Just doing a quick google search provides the following:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2005Jan/bch20050131028926.htm
http://www.physorg.com/preview11695.html
http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/default.asp?ArticleID=17817

Samsung in the above example has consistently been increasing DDR2 production this year.

Also, Demand is never constant and DDR2 demand has been rising consistently.
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A possible conclusion would be that demand must have been rising faster than supply in recent history. Also, one coule assume that the price elasticity of demand be rather low.

to get back on topic:
If AMD is coming out with their own 65nm chip soon, and quad cores are coming out as well, how in the world are DDR2 prices going to drop?
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One could consider that the launch of the Core 2 duo, which may have been "highly anticipated" could account for a surge in demand for DDR2. If that is the case, the demand increase/ time unit was rather large, maybe unexpected. If this "jump" in demand was only a temporary effect and unexpected, prices could drop again in the near term.

Honestly though, I do not know how DDR2 prices are going to evolve, because if I knew for sure, I surely wouldn't be posting on this forum, but sipping some champange on my yacht in near the Cayman Islands.
 
Unabomber said:
RAM prices have always been volatile.

Many of you might not be old enough to remember this, but back in the early / mid 90's, a single megabyte of 60 or 70 ns DRAM cost around 40 bucks to the average Joe.

Then, in 1994, there was an explosion at an epoxy plant in Japan, that was responsible for a mere 1% of the world's supply. Every memory manufacturer then pretty much agreed to start gouging the customers, and in a matter of a few days, we were all hit by the news of "Oh no! Now we don't have enough epoxy to make our memory modules! We must raise prices!"

Soon after that, the price of that single 60 ns SIMM (yes, we used SIMM's in those days, not DIMM's) skyrocketed to 80 bucks per unit, even though the cost of making these modules really didn't increase at all.

In reality, the "plant explosion," combined with the increasing demands for memory, since Windows 3.11 was making everyone want at least 8 MB, and preferably 16 MB of memory, and that Windows NT was just starting to get a foothold, is what triggered this price increase.

Prices did come tumbling down, but that spike did last for a good while.
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When I started messing with computers, the standard was 4MB and the high end systems were upgraded to 8GB of ram. When 8GB to 16GB was the standard I had to pay about $400 for 24MB of ram in three 8MB 72pin chips. This was before EDO DRAM came out BTW.
 
Dan_D said:
When I started messing with computers, the standard was 4MB and the high end systems were upgraded to 8GB of ram.
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quite a large jump in memory capacity there.... :p ;)
 
its AM2 and Core 2 Duo thats doing it.

both need DDR2 so theres a sudden demand for it.

supply goes down, demand goes up. prices go up. that simple.
 
I wonder if PS3's launch will shift some focus back to the consoles and cool down RAM prices for PCs.
 
I don't think gamers are going to influence the price of DDR2 very much, you're talking about a small percentage of a HUGE market.
 
Consoles are a huge market and high speed DDR2 is mostly purchased by gamers or overclockers.
 
Dan_D said:
When I started messing with computers, the standard was 4MB and the high end systems were upgraded to 8GB of ram. When 8MB to 16MB was the standard I had to pay about $400 for 24MB of ram in three 8MB 72pin chips. This was before EDO DRAM came out BTW.
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fixed your M/G's ;)
 
Dan_D said:
When I started messing with computers, the standard was 4MB and the high end systems were upgraded to 8GB of ram. When 8GB to 16GB was the standard I had to pay about $400 for 24MB of ram in three 8MB 72pin chips. This was before EDO DRAM came out BTW.
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I remember that. Wasn't the RAM before EDO called FPM or fast page mode or something? Got that stuck in my head for some reason. When I got my first rig, it had 4MB RAM. A year later I upgraded to a newer computer and upgraded to 8MB RAM. I think it was around $400 or so. The first system I built myself a little later I built with 16MB EDO RAM. It was around $250 for the RAM. 6 months later RAM prices dropped drastically and I upgraded my computer to 64MB RAM for the same price. I agree the RAM market has always been volatile... ;)
 
Slider19 said:
I wonder if PS3's launch will shift some focus back to the consoles and cool down RAM prices for PCs.
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i thought counsels used RDRAM. have things changed since i last looked into this?
 
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