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Wii over a 360?
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FluxCap said:
It's not that I don't like it ... it's that I think it's not made for all games genres. And so far I thought the controls were meh ... but that might be our fault though. Haha. So, I'm waiting to try more games and different genres, especially Nintendo games to make a final judgement.
All I can say is try it first, you might like it or not.
It's like a car, might looks great on paper, people might say it handles great and what not ... but you are still gonna take it for a spin before you buy it to see how it feels and how you like it.
EDIT about your edit: And also the first sentence ...
Has anyone considered selling their Xbox 360 and getting a Wii as their primary console? U HAX0R said:I Has anyone considered selling their Xbox 360 and getting a Wii as their primary console?
Fuck no. My PC has been collecting dust since July when I got my 360. Now i've got Chromehounds, Dead Rising and Saints Row eating up my time every night till like 3am. My PC will be used probably for FPS's for the most part like Crysis and HL2, but my days of forking over $400 for a new video card for minimual performance increases are over with.
Oh, and I went through 3 CRT HDTVs, from Toshiba, Samsung and LG. They were 30" widescreen models. All had gemoetry problems I couldn't fix in service menu, the didn't have real good sharpness and contrast and even for 30", they were a complete bitch to move and install. Im sorry, I don't care how good CRT video quality, my days of hauling heavy ass CRT' s around are over. Visit the AVSforum.com to see what I mean. Granted, sony's 34" widescreen Trinitron is beautiful, but at nearly 200 pounds and a 18 inchs girth? Fuck that, my new 50" Sony DLP weighs only a scat 63 poundsl.
I carried a 19" CRT monitor for 2 years to LAN parties. Every since I went LCD on my computer, I'll never go back, and now the same with my home theatre needs.For me, CRT's days are simply done with, they don't hold a candle to my new 50" Sony 3LCD rear projection TV. Long live LCD!!!
My PC is being neglected too. Damn you xbox360 for taking up all my free time for video games. I'm still deciding on weather to purchase a Wii, but it definitely won't replace my xbox360. Especially with all the great xbox360 games coming out soon. If I buy a Wii it will be for the new Zelda.
PS. I can't believe how well Nintendo's PR department did naming the Wii to get people talking. I thought I would never get used too it, but it really is catchy and I ALMOST like it now.
PS. I can't believe how well Nintendo's PR department did naming the Wii to get people talking. I thought I would never get used too it, but it really is catchy and I ALMOST like it now.
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ClearM4 said:PS. I can't believe how well Nintendo's PR department did naming the Wii to get people talking. I thought I would never get used too it, but it really is catchy and I ALMOST like it now.
I still hate it, but I wont let it get in the way of me buying one. I just refer to it as "The nintendo". I will never call it that stupid ass name.
4saken said:
I'm pretty sure i'm not retarded. Last time I checked I was ok, although I could be wrong. If I had been here I would of said the same things as DragonMasterAlex.
It is true I "could" go get an xbox360 and play the same games that have been revamped and redone and unoriginal for, Oh I dont' know YEARS. e.g. Just about any EA game, COD. etc. The fact is Nintendo has been and will be more original in their game titles than any other competing console. Now don't get me wrong there are some games that will be run of the mill console games for Wii. But I will wholeheartedly support them because they are trying to be different and making gaming more interesting and giving it a different edge. Like DragonMaster, I am extremely excited to play 3/4's of the games that are going to be released with the Wii. I dont' know about you but Im really starting to get tired of the games that look great but have the entertainment factor of a 3rd grade childrens play.
Daggah said:
Excatly. How many times did you play them? I honstely can't count. Orgininal mario = owns, mario 2 = owns, 3 = owns, paper mario = owns, mario kart = owns (thank god we had this in college) Mario alone yes it's been around forever. But it's been rehashed and changed so much that really every one of them is orginal in their own form. Name me one mario that was bad. And i'll find someone who says they loved it. Same goes with zelda Probablem is we could argue this all day long. So it's really a matter of what you find enjoyable. If you like to play madden football 2082. Where you actully get to customize your water bottle than by all means go ahead. i'm just kidding though. It really is what you consider more fun.
I outgrew Super Mario when I outgrew all the other things I used to do when I was 12, personally. I'm only marginally interested in Zelda.
Your logic is pretty flawed...you criticize other companies for sequels but then justify them for Nintendo. Gamespot's launch article has a list of launch games but only a couple of them aren't sequels to franchises that Nintendo has been milking for years.
Meanwhile the 360 has a lot of games like Dead Rising, Gears of War, Lost Planet, Kameo (pretty unique as far as platformers go)...
Your logic is pretty flawed...you criticize other companies for sequels but then justify them for Nintendo. Gamespot's launch article has a list of launch games but only a couple of them aren't sequels to franchises that Nintendo has been milking for years.
Meanwhile the 360 has a lot of games like Dead Rising, Gears of War, Lost Planet, Kameo (pretty unique as far as platformers go)...
Daggah said:
So by that your saying we all have to be grown ups when we play video games? And i should only play "Adult Games". Sponge bob square pants is targeted at children. But i'll tell you this. If it's intresting to play. Who freakin cares? But i digress, Wii's games are not "ALL" targeting children there are plenty and will be plenty of games for us "adults"
Daggah said:
I'm not going to argue your maturity, when playing vide games, Cause that would be silly.
I'm justifying the points you brought up mario and zelda, I didn't get into all the other games in the history of nintendo or the future. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying xbox is alll clone games. I'm sure there are a few games that kick ass, as there will be on PS3 (I think) Just that Wii will be more intresting than the same old thing. That is all.
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Daggah said:
No offense, and not starting a flame war here... but real adults don't try to label what they do as "an adult thing to do". I know plenty of people in their 40s that love what you would describe as "kiddie" games. Most of the people I know that have to watch adult rated films and play adult games are generally 16 - 22 and still looking out of place wearing daddy's pants.
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Daggah said:
The mass slaughter of zombies is straight up middle school. Running around with a box on top of you sounds a lot like something a grader-schooler would do for a fort or tank.
Next I assume you'll be claiming Saints Row is deep and mature.
Neurofreeze said:
So basically, you've oversimplified one game and straight up misrepresented another to make your point. No, I won't be claiming Saint's Row is deep and mature in this discussion, because if this is the best you can do, I don't need to clarify my point any further.
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So... then in order to be an adult I have to go and play games that involve blowing zombies apart into bloody frag, sniping around an enemy installation under a cardboard box, putting on nightvision goggles to break people's necks, or just plain murdering people out of my car with machine guns?
Sorry... but that's not adult. That's call an ESRB M rating because it is not meant to be seen by a younger audience. It means that there are things disturbing enough in the game that a younger audience might get traumatized by viewing it.
While I do enjoy some of those games, they have no bearing on how mature you are. It just means that you have a sick fascination with blowing people away... like I do sometimes. Mario and Zelda are middle of the road games. While Link does in fact slay monsters, he's not gouging their eyes out with his thumbs or sawing off their pecker with his Master Sword. These games are targeted at all audiences.
Games like Spongebob Squarepants exist for the sake of the younger audience because their orgininal format on television was to entertain a younger viewer by reference to its material.
So I really believe there's a huge misconception as to what kind of maturity it takes to play a certain type of video game.
Sorry... but that's not adult. That's call an ESRB M rating because it is not meant to be seen by a younger audience. It means that there are things disturbing enough in the game that a younger audience might get traumatized by viewing it.
While I do enjoy some of those games, they have no bearing on how mature you are. It just means that you have a sick fascination with blowing people away... like I do sometimes. Mario and Zelda are middle of the road games. While Link does in fact slay monsters, he's not gouging their eyes out with his thumbs or sawing off their pecker with his Master Sword. These games are targeted at all audiences.
Games like Spongebob Squarepants exist for the sake of the younger audience because their orgininal format on television was to entertain a younger viewer by reference to its material.
So I really believe there's a huge misconception as to what kind of maturity it takes to play a certain type of video game.
Well, ultimately I'll get a Wii just because at its price there's no reason not to, especially since it'll be compatible with gamecube games (not being particularly impressed by the gamecube or its library, I never had enough reason to get one) but I think that the Wii's main appeal is in fact it's low price...it's game library and hardware capabilities certainly don't do all that much to impress.
Sure, kid's games like Mario or Zelda can be enjoyed by all ages but they're still TARGETED specifically at one age category. Nintendo's been targetting this age category for a long time now, that you cannot deny.
Sure, kid's games like Mario or Zelda can be enjoyed by all ages but they're still TARGETED specifically at one age category. Nintendo's been targetting this age category for a long time now, that you cannot deny.
IMO the Wii is a gimicky dissapointment. I was going to buy one mainly for a better looking zelda, but now that they are implementing the motion thing into sword movement screw it. So far no game on Wii has excited me. For all the talk about how this sensor will be as precise as a mouse it sure isnt stoping companys from using a lockon.
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Daggah said:
No, I believe the games are targeted at people that enjoy games. It's people like you that designate them as kiddy games.
FluxCap said:One con for me: If I want to lay down on the leather couch and play a game (ie Zelda) in a relaxed posture, I can't because of the motion stuff. If that is the case with most games then I will probably pass. I get enough exercise at the gym.
It's been said that you don't need to do all the exaggerated motions that you see in the videos...simple flicks of the wrist get the job done, and it was designed to work with both large motions and small motions.
I didnt say it was out, the games I have seen look terrible. Im not a graphics whore entirely but red steel is about as advanced as they are going to look which is a disspointment for next gen games. And the controller is a gimick, there trying to stress that controllers are getting to advanced. Any console controller can be picked up and played faster then two motion sensor sticks.
4saken said:
Dont know where u get that from. Kameo is the only game style wise i could compare it to, and kameo looks leagues better environmentally and character model wise.
I GAURENTEE you that if you take 1,000 random people out of the U.S. and show them Kameo on H.D. and a very good looking 480p game (thinking with Wii hardware) 85%-99% of them would say that they barely notice a differance between the two graphically and some of them would simply consider them "equil" in graphical quality. I would put a million dollars on that because the difference between hardcore gamers and your average consumor is like night and day.
Again I didnt say it was a measure of enjoyment NINTENDO'S pitch(gimmick) is that today controllers have far to many buttons and therefore hard for anyone to just pick up and play. I believe picking up a controller is far less intimidating then picking up two motion sensor controllers.
Dont say anything about allegiances. Ive never had any allegiance. In the last gen race I started with a Gamecube. When decent titles failed to show on that platform the Xbox was the way to go. Ive never owned a PS/PS2 mostly because the tiles failed to impress me, some were ok but not worth the money of buying a console. I do think its terrible how Sony decided to steal Nintendo's thunder with a motion device but oh well it didnt work. The only game I see as somewhat interesting on the Wii is Super Smash Bros. but if it requires the motion controller forget it. Im entitled like the rest of you to an opinion and I believe its nothing but a gimmick.
Jap1987 said:
You're very correct, you are entitled to an opinion. Still though, I'm surprised that you're so against the controller without having tried it.
Either way, I applaud Nintendo for attempting something so crazy...their innovations have done so much for the gaming industry and I hope this ends up in the same arena.