ASUS A8N Deluxe/Premium? 939? Whaaa?

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Episode666

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Here's what I really want:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

But I heard that my style of case, the Lian-Li v1000, being inverted is actually a bad thing for a fanless northbridge, (something about how the board was disigned to float the air a certain way) so do I settle on this? Is there even any truth to this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517

And yeah, I'm going 939 with an Athlon 64 3700+. Alot of people are saying it's "dead" but just as many people say that AM2 isn't worth it yet for the gamers, and I'm a gamer.

I'll be checking back in frequently, and I'll answer any questions. Thanks.
 
The heatpipe orientation is a myth. Do a search, I've posted a ton of info about it. I'm using heatpipes upside down in my v1000 on a M2N32-SLI and there is zero issue. Temps stay cool. Heatpipes are used by NASA in zero gravity environments in space shuttles and satellites.

If you are starting fresh, AM2 is definetly worth it. If you want to keep your old ram, stay with 939. That would be the only reason for staying with older technology. The new AM2's with a 570/590 chipset are really nice. They are excellent for gaming.
 
if you're starting off new,and you're going with 939, why not kick out the stops and just get like a 4800 or something? 939 is already being phased out, might as well get the most power for your money if buying a discontinued cpu, right?

i mean, i'm thinking, considering how cheap 939's are, by the time you'll need something faster than that series, amd2 or whatever comes after that will be cheap enough to replace without being too much of a hit to the wallet. why shell out the money for amd2, when in 6 months it'll be like 100 bucks less anyways? and your 939 is going to stay very useful far past 6 months.

but this is just me :)
 
Everfalling said:
if you're starting off new,and you're going with 939, why not kick out the stops and just get like a 4800 or something? 939 is already being phased out, might as well get the most power for your money if buying a discontinued cpu, right?

i mean, i'm thinking, considering how cheap 939's are, by the time you'll need something faster than that series, amd2 or whatever comes after that will be cheap enough to replace without being too much of a hit to the wallet. why shell out the money for amd2, when in 6 months it'll be like 100 bucks less anyways? and your 939 is going to stay very useful far past 6 months.

but this is just me :)
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In all honesty, I can't afford to spend $295 on my processor alone. Maybe some day, just not now. Do you think a 4000+ for $135 would stretch far enough for the price of AM2's to go down, like you said?

I'm not trying to pinch pennies, because I know that you get your money's worth in a good processor, it's just I can't afford $295.
 
yeah i think a 4000 will do you ust fine. i have a 3800 (looking to upgrade to that 4800) for about a year and i dont see the need to replace it for a whole other socket, but maybe for a higher cpu. thing is, the 4800 used to be like 600-700 bucks. so 300 is a jawsome deal. if you can stand to wait a few months, and save up some money, i bet it'd be near an even 300 shipped. but yeah, i dont see any need to change cockets just yet,even if 939 is being phased out. it's still a good cpu that can handle pretty much any game out today.

again, this is just me, you'll prolly hear something else fromsomeone who knows 939 and amd2 better than i. the problem is whether or not the amd2 is worth not only paying more for, but paying more for NOW, instead of maybe a year or two later.
 
Ok Ever, I'll go with the 4000. Thanks for the info.

If you're interested, here's my planned system specs. I'm aiming for just enough power to play all the current highest-end games, but not go overboard and cost me $$$$$:

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 2.4GHz Socket 939
ASUS A8N-SLI Premuim Socket 939 nForce4 SLI AMD
eVGA Geforce 7900GT 256MB PCI-E x16
Western Digital Caviar 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner
HIPER HPU-4K580-MS 580W Power Supply
ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Blue LED Light Cooling Fan with Heatsink
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel
Tube of Artic Silver 5

Grand total: $900

I'd love some feedback on the above list, before I click the Checkout button. ;)
 
Looks like a good system mate. resembles mine in many ways. I did have problems with the hard drive you are going to buy though, and ended up sending 2 back to where i got them from in the UK. Thats why I now have an IDE for my windows install and a small sata just for general data storage. Don't really understand the whole reasons behind both sata's being unable to be formatted. Nevermind, good luck with you build :cool:
 
I'd get the Scythe Ninja over the Zalman HSF any day... unless you like the look of the zalman.

That board is made to overclock... You're gonna regret not buying one of theeese I think. 3800 X2
 
I own the premium and believe me you can invert twist do any configuration and the board is alright. This is a rock stable board so you should be happy. I ran this board through the ringer. In fact i like this board much more than i like my a8n asus deluxe. Your San Diego CPU is great I ran that thing for over a year before the dual cores came out and that cpu is great. Ninja is a bitch, Zalman rocks. But just personal preference.
 
Arcygenical said:
Yes, the ninja is somewhat of a bitch to install :p
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How long did it take you. I can get the zalman in in less than 5 minutes. Ninja takes a good 15-20
 
the S939 and AM2 3800 chips cost exactly the same.

if a compareable AM2 setup does not cost more than a S939 setup, you really should go that route. then you at least have the option to upgrade to a newer CPU down the road.

otherwise, if you stick with the combo you've got it's a good setup. i have a similar rig right now.
 
If you game, you'll want a dual core CPU......and not because some games utilize it, but because of the multi-tasking features. Let one core run your system and the other run your game.
It's nice to play a game when your anti-virus kicks on and you don't even notice until you are done playing your game.

I have the premium board and a x2 3800+
 
Jstamsek said:
If you game, you'll want a dual core CPU......and not because some games utilize it, but because of the multi-tasking features. Let one core run your system and the other run your game.
It's nice to play a game when your anti-virus kicks on and you don't even notice until you are done playing your game.

I have the premium board and a x2 3800+
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How would you compare the actual raw speed of the x2 3800's 2.0Ghz to the 2.2Ghz of the 4000+ single-core? Aside from the multitasking, will my games actually run smoother?

I'm asking because I only have a general knowlege of processors and have never actually installed one myself, but I'm looking foreward to it. (My current is an Athlon XP 2100+ 1,7Ghz that my dad installed for me years ago.) But hey, it plays HL2!
 
Episode666 said:
How would you compare the actual raw speed of the x2 3800's 2.0Ghz to the 2.2Ghz of the 4000+ single-core? Aside from the multitasking, will my games actually run smoother?

I'm asking because I only have a general knowlege of processors and have never actually installed one myself, but I'm looking foreward to it. (My current is an Athlon XP 2100+ 1,7Ghz that my dad installed for me years ago.) But hey, it plays HL2!
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I've overclocked my X2 3800+ to 2.4ghz. And it does help the games quite a bit.
 
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