So you have $300.00 TODAY, what do you do to enhance gaming?

You have $300.00 to enhance your gaming, TODAY, what do you buy?

  • Total voters
    347
  • Poll closed .
R

R1ckCa1n

Supreme [H]ardness
Joined
Jul 22, 2004
Messages
4,355
So lets see what the users think about this situation.

You have $300.00 to spend to enhance your gaming experience TODAY. What do you spend the money on and in result you will have a better gaming experience after installing the equipment. This isn't a thread about the promises of Ageia, Havok, ATi, and Nvidia nor is it about tech demos so please don't bother with the banter.
 
If I had 300 bucks today, I'd buy better ram (if I needed it) a new 7900 (to replace my 7800gt's) or get a second one if I had one already. I wouldn't buy something that I could only use on one or two games right now, with nothing else really supported.
 
Even with an X1800 I would opt for anicer Graphics card if i could find one at the price point. Or More HDDs for storage along with a Theatrix 650pro.
 
$300 isnt really enough to enhance my gaming situation, I would need more like $1000, or at least $900...
 
It depends on the currently owned hardware, but for gaming only I'd go for the 7900/1800 or second video card assuming there is a possiblity for high resolution gaming. Otherwise if there is already 2gb of ram, a 7900/1800 and a 1280x1024 or so monitor there isn't much to enhance given the options.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
So lets see what the users think about this situation.

You have $300.00 to spend to enhance your gaming experience TODAY. What do you spend the money on and in result you will have a better gaming experience after installing the equipment. This isn't a thread about the promises of Ageia, Havok, ATi, and Nvidia nor is it about tech demos so please don't bother with the banter.
Click to expand...
I think it's all about how the state of there current game rig is.
There are people with a
Modern High-end card.
2GB
a DualCore CPU.
Mobo often not SLI CF ready.

Also people with one bottleneck. to spend that $300 for.
Also a lot of people with a crap game rig. $1000 or more needed.


But more People have a free PCI2.2+ slot then a spare PCiE16x slot.

More mem beyond 2GB don't bring much unless your multitask like a octopusy.
CPU There are some SMP games and some are a bit more CPU dependand then average but the GPU often takes a large share of it's dependancy. A decent high-end SC or midrange DC will do. more will not bring much unless 800x600 is your favorite resolution.

Also a lot of people have still a decent for gaming AGP system. Me to.

I have a PCI-e system wich doesn't need upgrading and already have a PPU.
Also a decent AGP rig. Single core and 1Gb. and already a PPU but could use a extra 1GB mem. for CPU I would need a $1000 upgrade.
My third rig.
CPU Mem mobo and GPU needs a upgrade. $300 would cover the Case and PSU, it needs a large upgrade. $1000+ needed plus PPU :)
But for this I wait on Dx10 hardware. And triple PCI-E Mobo to keep the options open.
Not for SLI/CF. But one PCI-E for PhysXPPU and a HavokFX Physiscs GPU.
R600 is my favorite not G80 :)
Ageia partners will release a PCIE PPU in the future.

And high-end SLI/CF needs a large Monitor with large Resolutions.
Wich I don't have. two 19" CRT capable of doing 1800x1440. and a TFT 25ms 1280x1024.
SLI CF won't bring much.
Also using heavy FSAA on high resolutions make no sense to. A bit is nice. 2x max 4x to polish it further.
My PCI-E rig is SLI ready but with a ATI GPU. can't mke CF of it. Maybe put later a other ATI next to it for Havok FX. But there aren't any HavokFX games out and also not in a short time like months.

Wenn I did go for a PPU I did it for two Pc at once and two PPU's and a 7800GS+

PPU make more sense on a decent game rig. Like the finishing touch.

If Ram is low or GPU dated or old single core. a PPU make no sense, not alone for that small amount of supporting games at this moment, but the extra effect Physics and gameplay Physics emersion and eyecandy get a blow by the need of very low settings for playable fps rate. But the first point it will get more games each Quarter.

A feature rich NAS comes also to mind.
A extra router for adsl
Or a Dual Wan router.
A 8port 1gbit switch.
A 3Dsound card
2.1 Speakers.
USB HD to hang on the NAS.

For SLI/CF such 2560x1600 30" TFT monitor would be nice but the price let me think about it a 100 times.

And in my case the PPU upgrade was a €900 for two PPU and a 7800GS+
 
Wanna buy my PhysX card?

I won it at QuakeCon but I dont have a desktop to use it in.. I have a fully loaded badass laptop and have no time to Game so the PPu really does me no good..

Its opened, but just to look at it.. its an Ageia PhysX PCI with all software, games, and Demos it came with..

220$

-Evil Juggalo
 
Personally I would buy a nice pair of headphones :) Visuals are already taken care of. So sound is next.
 
I'd buy a new/additional LCD and/or upgrade my surround sound or 2.1 setup.
 
Uh, for $300 I'd probably buy an e6300 and a wc setup so I can let this 1900 spread it's wings :D
 
I totally forgot the new Intel processors fit into the budget (my e6600 is on the way). Maybe after a "killer app" is released we can revisit this with more selections.
 
For $300 I would probably upgrade to an X2 processor, and use the rest for a DVD-RW drive.

Or maybe a satellite dish so I can give my dial-up service the boot. :p
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Faster or more RAM
Click to expand...

Got 2 BG of fast RAM allready...

A 7900/1800
Click to expand...

Got a AGP Gainward 7800GS Bliss already

A second 7900/1800
Click to expand...

No SLI for AGP...

A PPU
Click to expand...

Got one allready...those are the reasons for I didn't vote.

And oh yeah, the PPU is < $250 your poll is flawed...nice try though :p

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
BFG PhysX = $224.99 (after $40.00 Mail-In Rebate)
Asus PjysX = $246.99
 
The only thing that is conceivably flawed about the poll is a relatively insignificant false dichotomy in that not all possible options are available to choose, which is why I always like to append "other" to these lists.

The cost of the items listed is irrelevant to consistency of this question with reality. If you want to draw your own conclusions from the poll, that is fine, but please don't start complaining to everyone here about them.


I voted for more memory, but in retrospect I should have not voted. I have "$300 TODAY" (surprise!) and I'm not particularly interested in spending it on my computer right now.
 
Although I voted I rather have "Other" for games as enhancing my gaming :D


$100 - $150 and I would probably go ahead and buy one regardless of the lack of games currently out NOW.
 
Netrat33 said:
Not flawed. He said if you have $300
You can spend $300 anyway you want. Spend $250 of it and pocket the rest
Click to expand...

He is assuming (or givng the false idea?) that the PPU cost $300
 
Interesting results; over 95 percent of the users who voted would spend their money on something else.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Interesting results; over 95 percent of the users who voted would spend their money on something else.
Click to expand...
But certanly not surpriced. Or are you. We know you are against it. And hammering down the situation now. Because off Terra?
Besides that PPU is not so attractive because not much games are avaible for it. Is known. Whats new? It's old news.
But that now. Besides that. PPU is not for poor people. Or those with a small budged.Those people are the ones with not much Ram a crap Gcard old or low budged. Dito for CPU. A bad basis for to put a PPU in. To much bottlenecks to upgrade for.
PPU is far away for them to tink of buying one.

A PPU needs a Decent gamerig as basis. To be able to show it stuff and keep fps rate. And add to a optimum game performance what already non PhysX game deliver today as emersion eyecandy and realism and in the future. not add to a experience on top of a game running on minimum requierments.

That how new hardware starts. First for the enthausiast and in time reaching a larger audience. Due to more games and a full produkt line. But that takes years.

I bought 2 PPU plus a Gcard 7800GS that support it. So With a strong basis for both PC's.

For now not much games aviable for it. but that will change in time.

For now PPU is in the early adopters stage and those people are likely more not so budged restricted. and most have a decent game rig to match it. Or make there gamerig PPU ready. So $250 becomes $600 to $1000

So the lak of interrest is normal thing at this fase.
It will grow as more games comes aviable and that takes time.
 
If I had $300 I'd buy another gig of ram and call it good. Even if I had an extra $5000 I still wouldn't buy the PPU because I personally have no use nor interest in the games available or being developed on (with the exception of ut2k7, mild interest).

Who has an extra $300 anyway, doesnt that cover a weeks worth of gas? :D
 
Killa_2327 said:
If I had $300 I'd buy another gig of ram and call it good. Even if I had an extra $5000 I still wouldn't buy the PPU because I personally have no use nor interest in the games available or being developed on (with the exception of ut2k7, mild interest).

Who has an extra $300 anyway, doesnt that cover a weeks worth of gas? :D
Click to expand...
With $5000 would wait for Vista. And the second wave of conroe. That 3.333Ghz EE version. 4GB ram. And Three R600 on a RD600 and a PCIE-PPU. Rig must have at least a duty cycle of 3 years.
Only CF if a 2560x1600 TFT screen fits in that budged. But I think not.
Ready for DX10 games HavokFX and PhysX.
Will be in 2007 if the puzzel of waitin compleets.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Interesting results; over 95 percent of the users who voted would spend their money on something else.
Click to expand...

You forgot users(like yourself) who voted more than one time...again..poll flawed(or your poll-logic)

Math and polling can be hard it seems... :p
 
None of the listed options in the poll, I would buy a new processor.

Upgrade my P4 2.4ghz single core northwood to an E6600 Core 2 Duo.
 
Terra said:
You forgot users(like yourself) who voted more than one time...again..poll flawed(or your poll-logic)

Math and polling can be hard it seems... :p
Click to expand...

Doesn't change the fact of the 94 people who have voted, only 4 picked a PPU. I have a feeling if there was an "other" selection that would get the most vote.

What else you need to understand is of the 66,775 members only 94 felt it necessary to visit the PPU sub forum and vote. That alone should tell you how important a PPU is to [H]ard|Forum users. Maybe this will help you but it in perspective and ease up on your marketing campaign. Then again I will probly yet again get misquoted.......
:confused:
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Doesn't change the fact of the 94 people who have voted, only 4 picked a PPU. I have a feeling if there was an "other" selection that would get the most vote.
Click to expand...

So you agree, you first statemnet was flawed(once again)?

What else you need to understand is of the 66,775 members only 94 felt it necessary to visit the PPU sub forum and vote.
Click to expand...

Out of +6 bill. people on ~70.000 found it nessary to register at [H]ard, point being?

That alone should tell you how important a PPU is to [H]ard|Forum users.
Click to expand...

And?
I don't make money of the PhysX, so what do I care? :)
A shame that AGIEA dosn't use viral trolls like ATI/NVIDIA does, then I could get paid for posting my opnions...

Maybe this will help you but it in perspective and ease up on your marketing campaign.
Click to expand...

*chough* :rolleyes:

Then again I will probly yet again get misquoted.......
Click to expand...

Link to claim?
Otherwise it will be yet a nother error form your part, this time not a fallacy, but a lie..
 
Terra said:
So you agree, you first statemnet was flawed(once again)?
Click to expand...

LOL... yet another example of Terra.

Adding an "other" selection would have done nothing to change the fact only 4 users actually picked a PPU. You could be justifying it in your mind that the entire poll is flawed because you don't like the results.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
LOL... yet another example of Terra.

Adding an "other" selection would have done nothing to change the fact only 4 users actually picked a PPU. You could be justifying it in your mind that the entire poll is flawed because you don't like the results.
Click to expand...

A) first you try and dertermine the "usefulness" by appeal to majority(fallacy)
B) the you get the price of the PPU wrong(deliberatly?)
C) Then you math is all wrong (multiple voting (people that read and don't vote..like me))
D) Then you still cling on to your A, B and C like is has any real value and point the finger at me?

You do know what fallices are don't you?
 
PPU over here

A 2nd GX2 would be nice for Quad :D , but I need the 30" monitor first lol :p
 
Terra said:
A) first you try and dertermine the "usefulness" by appeal to majority(fallacy)
B) the you get the price of the PPU wrong(deliberatly?)
C) Then you math is all wrong (multiple voting (people that read and don't vote..like me))
D) Then you still cling on to your A, B and C like is has any real value and point the finger at me?

You do know what fallices are don't you?
Click to expand...


B) the MSRP is 299.99, It's 260 at most retailers now, newegg has a special not a permanent price drop so don't say it.
C) you can't vote more than once.
D) you point the finger at everyone so i'd say turnabout is fairplay for him.
 
Ver1tas said:
B) the MSRP is 299.99, It's 260 at most retailers now, newegg has a special not a permanent price drop so don't say it.
Click to expand...

And we always buy at the sites listed at MSRP, never the cheapest place right? ;)
Bottom line, you can get the PPU for less that $250 today.

C) you can't vote more than once.
Click to expand...

Oh yeah?
voteqi6.jpg


D) you point the finger at everyone so i'd say turnabout is fairplay for him.
Click to expand...

Kinda hard to point fingers at ~70.000 members, care to moderate that sentence in accordance with reality? :)
 
Terra said:
And we always by at the sites listed at MSRP, never the cheapest place right? ;)
Bottom line, you can get the PPU for less that $250 today.



Oh yeah?
/snip/ pointless image



Kinda hard to point fingers at ~70.000 members, care to moderate that sentence in accordance with reality? :)
Click to expand...


wow, the poll was setup to let you check the options you felt most applicable to you, if you had voted you may have known that.


sorry i should have said "D) you FLAME, call them viral marketers and point the finger at everyone who even slightly disagrees with you. so i'd say turnabout is fairplay for him." better?

Haha i even like the physX, maybe not the b-list developers they have chosen though.
 
Ver1tas said:
B) the MSRP is 299.99, It's 260 at most retailers now, newegg has a special not a permanent price drop so don't say it.
C) you can't vote more than once.
D) you point the finger at everyone so i'd say turnabout is fairplay for him.
Click to expand...

Look through Terra last 100 posts and you will see he cries "flawed" when it isn't going his way. You can tell everyone is getting in tune with this modivation.

Terra said:
Oh yeah?
voteqi6.jpg
Click to expand...


Actually you can only VOTE once. Please read and digest the post before flaming.

Ver1tas said:
Meh, it's cool though, my colleagues and I get a kick out of reading his posts everyday.
Click to expand...

Several of his posts have created much laughter in my office!
 
Meh, it's cool though, my colleagues and I get a kick out of reading his posts everyday.
 
Ver1tas said:
wow, the poll was setup to let you check the options you felt most applicable to you, if you had voted you may have known that.
Click to expand...

And thus rendering the percentage claim mathematical incorrect..wich was my point...
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Look through Terra last 100 posts and you will see he cries "flawed" when it isn't going his way.
Click to expand...

When are you going to respond to my question about if you do or do not know what a fallcy is?

Actually you can only VOTE once. Please read and digest the post before flaming.
Click to expand...

Please learn math and polling :rolleyes:
When users are give multple votes(options) you cannon just look at the "raw" percentages numbers like you tried to pull off.
That is BAD math! :rolleyes:
Do you get it now? :)
 
Terra said:
And thus rendering the percentage claim mathematical incorrect..wich was my point...
Click to expand...

What is so hard to understand that out of 99 voters (based on hitting the submit button), 5 have choosen a PPU? Very easy understand.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top