Who will win?

Noobkiller

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I been esitimating that the Wii or the 360 will come out on top on this console wars. I think because the PS3 is to damn expensive. I bet a couple of you will say
But Noobkiller, people buy PC's everyday that cost more than $600
Well the problem is, consoles are made to be convient for the casul gamer, and spending $600 dollars for a "computer" [ Which by the way Sony, great marketing, try to appeal to the pc gamers to say it's a "computer"]. As for the WII, they got it because they are appealing to the casul gamers by it price tag, and the idea of getting execise for it. If anyone feels any different, speak now.
 
If more and more devs jump the Sony ship knowing the kind of marketshare Sony will lose, I could see MS taking the US by a decent margin followed by Nintendo. Europe could go either way, and Japan probably will give the PS3 a slight edge over the Wii and the 360 in a distant third (but still more marketshare than the XB garnered).

I think the musings about upgradeable parts in the PS3 pretty much sealed its fate as a second rate PC. There's also talk of IBM not seeing good Cell yields and may have to drop the frequency to 2.8GHz which would lend more credence to the upgradeable parts.
 
Agreed. Microsoft will sell more in the US while Nintendo will hold Japan. Sony will be dead last in both US and Japan. Anyway, I think Nintendo Adds online gameplay to Metroid, it will be considered Nintendo's "Halo killer". As for Microsoft, the 360 is nothing more than a poor man's gaming pc ( I though I want to get it for Christmas :) ). Why, because I realized that most of the 360 games are ports of PC games. Quake, Prey, Call of Duty, ETC
 
are we only comparing the 3 next gen consoles? dont forget to take into account the last gen consoles... the ps3 "appears" to be having problems.. but we really wont know the magnitude of these "problems" until the system is in our hands...

in the meantime... the SONY ps2 is remaining as the top selling console in the US...

thus being... get the ps3 out... give it some time to mingle with the developers... give blu-ray some time to settle in to the general market place... give hdtvs another year or probably more to infiltrate homes... and cut costs for the ps3... by the time ps2 is over and out... the ps3 should be in a relatively strong position to take over...

sure, the ps3 wont have as many sales to start, but then again... the victor isnt decided by the initial year's worth of sales right? albeit that historically speaking, the first one to 10M typically wins but the gaming market has been changing considerably, who knows whatll happen this time around

im still expecting plenty of strong jrpg exclusives for sony... no doubt these will move systems when they are released in 2007/2008
 
I know this been argued to death but reality is if, and that's a big IF, Blu-ray wins the format war PS3 will pick up high. The first wave of PS3s will go to hardcore gamers, but if that 'IF' will realize then Sony might just have a winner here in '07... Only time will tell though. What's for sure is Sony won't be as dominant as they are with PS2.
 
another thread about the console war...

wii will win , because of the unique feature
 
there is no winner, unless you mean "the gamers"

the console war died back in the snes/genesis days
 
In terms of sales, I think in America they will be pretty close after a few years. If any console is in #1 it won't mean that much because the difference between first and last will be pretty small. Japan will probably be a different story, but that's Japan so who cares.
 
dotK said:
In terms of sales, I think in America they will be pretty close after a few years. If any console is in #1 it won't mean that much because the difference between first and last will be pretty small. Japan will probably be a different story, but that's Japan so who cares.
ever heard of the Toko game show? It's compared to the likes to E3. Once E3 goes out like a light, The gaming press will have a major focus on the Toko gaming show.

Back on the gaming subject, Yes, the PS3 is appealing to a hardcore crowd, however, the WII is appealing to both a hardcore crowd and a casual crowd.

Like I said before, the 360 is the console you have to get if some of the most beloved PC games (mostly FPS) get ported to the 360. They even did it with the x-box.
 
Win ? Thats defined per person I think because Winning to me means being the best, not selling the most. IMO the 360 is the best 'bang for your buck' console this round, however the Wii will probably sell more simply because its priced cheaper.

People are cheap.
 
Noobkiller said:
ever heard of the Toko game show? It's compared to the likes to E3. Once E3 goes out like a light, The gaming press will have a major focus on the Toko gaming show.

Nah, TGS is primarily represented by Sony. Nintendo and MS have about 1/100th of a showing that Sony does.

TGS is overrated. Call me when X06 happens :p
 
I'm not really sure what will win, but I probably will only buy a Wii this year as can hold off on the other systems, zelda and maby a few other games should tide me over till smash brothers hits. (main reason I bought a gamecube)
 
theNoid said:
IMO the 360 is the best 'bang for your buck' console this round,
People are cheap.
I don't buy everything up and ask questions later, so maybe you will not like what I have to say.

Microsoft has released two consols in less than a single consol's lifetime. I don't even upgrade my PC that often. The 360 very well may be the best bang for you buck (highly moot, but just to humor you...), but it is not the best of the "round," but the best of the "half round," a round microsoft has created for itself. The bottom line: the 360 is geared toward late bloomers/ young kids with rich parents that don't keep up with technology.
 
You know who is going to win?

THE GAMERS!

No one can say for sure who will win this next gen race but rest assured, all of us gamers win in the long run. We have 3 AWESOME options coming our way. The 360 is already out and has established games already. It has from what I hear a pretty good online system and is starting to release classics. The Wii is a whole new type of gameplay aimed towards both the hardcore gamers and casual people as well. They too have classic gameplay and a super cheap price tag. The PS3 is aimed at the super hardcore gamers who want the best in graphics and technology and are willing to pay the price.

Does it really matter who wins? I am just glad that each company is doing something totally different.
 
cyks said:
I don't buy everything up and ask questions later, so maybe you will not like what I have to say.

Microsoft has released two consols in less than a single consol's lifetime. I don't even upgrade my PC that often. The 360 very well may be the best bang for you buck (highly moot, but just to humor you...), but it is not the best of the "round," but the best of the "half round," a round microsoft has created for itself. The bottom line: the 360 is geared toward late bloomers/ young kids with rich parents that don't keep up with technology.

Exactly how I feel about this whole business with Xbox 360. It was released FAR too early and I actually take it as an insult. It's well documented that really great games come out near the end of a console's life, probably since developers have a hang of the programming. Just look at the Gamecube and PS2 right now. It seems that every month or two there's another great game coming out. What Microsoft has essentially done is cut off the end of the life of the Xbox by introducing the Xbox 360 too early. Just look at this timeline on Wiki. The length of the Xbox lifetime represented here is the same as failed consoles of the past like the Jaguar and the TurboGrafx-16. We shouldn't have to buy a new console every three years as Microsoft is demonstrating...

On the other hand, who cares who "wins" the console war? Why should I care which large corporation makes the most profit this generation? As long as there are good games, that's all that matters. And good games can come from anywhere. I have a ton of PS2 games that are great and I still play my PS1 games on there. I also recently rediscovered the Gamecube (which I've actually only owned for 8 months) and Resident Evil 4, along with all the Nintendo exclusives that are also fantastic. As long as the developer creativity never gets stifled, we'll all be okay. Woosah.
 
I agree with some of the posters who say it will be the gamer who wins.

Each of the three powerhouses are bringing something different to the table. Wii is giving us an innovative control method, X360 gave us early bang for your buck HD, and the PS3 will be an upscale, edge of technology console with Bluray, the new controller, and so forth.

In the end I think PS3 will once again end up on top by a wide margin, but not as wide as before. X360 has entered the market early and taken advantage of its head start with some good titles and strong online features. Wii still seems targeted at a more "non gamer" audience, and they are cheap and just like the Cube will find their way into most households around but as a secondary console. The PS3 is expensive and high end and what people asked for in a console. Only the hard core fans will get one at launch and my guess is that by next summer the price will already start to come down and it will find itself being picked up by everyone who now has a PS2 and enjoys it.

I play my PS2 all the time, and i still have a few PS1 games, and that says a lot about which console ill get, and probably does for many in my position. However, i also enjoy the Cube and the party games on there are unbeatable if you ask me, so ill probably still have my cube and pick up a wii when its cheaper.
 
yeah, the party games on the cube are truly great... i got me a cube and will most likely upgrade to the wii sometime next year... so wii for party games... and the ps3 for all my other solo needs...
 
Even if the Wii and 360 double the sales of the Gamecube and Xbox and the PS3 only sells half of what the PS2 did, the PS3 would still win by more than 10 million units.

Also, the first to ten million units hasn't always won. The Genesis beat the SNES to ten million but actually ended up losing by about 11 million.

I agree that the 360 was released way too early, which brings me into my next point. Microsoft just abandoned the Xbox1. It should have realized that everyone doesn't want to upgrade right away and continued to support it, much like Sony is doing with the PS2.

The 360 seems very rushed considering that MS did not make enough consoles to meet demand, and it also botched the backwards compatibility. There's also the fact that by releasing it so early, it has to compete with the PS2, which has outsold it except for one month during its entire lifespan. It also isn't doing any better in Japan than its predecessor. MS should have planned the launch better and released it this holiday season while continuing support of the Xbox1.

Sony realizes that not everyone will want to upgrade right away, so they're continuing support of the PS2, which is why titles like FFVII, God Of War 2, Guitar Heros 2, etc, are coming out for the PS2 and not the PS3. If Sony manages to make 6 million PS3's available by next March, that's 6 million Blu-Ray players in homes across the world. It shouldn't be much longer afterwards that they can drop prices and ween people off of the PS2 and onto the PS3. Since the PS2 is still outselling everything else, those are more users that are more likely to get a PS3 when they finally do decide to upgrade.

The Wii has pretty good shot at second place. It will be the "and" system and will find its way into a lot of homes, not to mention that it and the PS3 will have the Japanese market all to themselves.

I wonder though, if the Xbox 360 fails to take first place and/or loses second place to Nintendo/keeps losing money, will Microsoft withdraw from the home console market? MS lost 4 billion on the Xbox, and the 360 has lost them 1.64 billion thus far, and it hasn't even been out for a year. Bill Gates and his subordinates are businessmen who want to see profits, so I'm wondering how long they'll keep a sinking ship in their fleet.
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
I wonder though, if the Xbox 360 fails to take first place and/or loses second place to Nintendo/keeps losing money, will Microsoft withdraw from the home console market? MS lost 4 billion on the Xbox, and the 360 has lost them 1.64 billion thus far, and it hasn't even been out for a year. Bill Gates and his subordinates are businessmen who want to see profits, so I'm wondering how long they'll keep a sinking ship in their fleet.

You answered your own question. It doesn't make any difference if MS comes in first, second or third. What matters to MS in this generation is making money. I think that's why we're seeing the online and episodic features being pushed so hard, as they maximise the money MS gets for each console sold.

If they fail to turn a profit at the end of this generation, I don't think they'll be back.

[Edit - On a different note, I don't think MS is doing half as badly as you think they are. So far they've matched or exceeded their initial expectations, however low. So obviously they were well aware of what their initial sales would be and where their competition is. I also think that due to shortages of the other consoles, better bundles and the 2nd gen games, MS will clean up this xmas.]
 
What is "Win"? The amount of money Netted or Grossed? I think Nintendo will make the most amount of Money in the next 5 years (Net). Console wise, I think Nintendo will sell the most worldwide. Nintendo has the big daddy franchises, the technology, the marketing, and the PRICE.
 
360 FTW!!!!!

No but really... Wii is shooting itself in the foot with the lack of HD support. Only thing they have going for it is the "gimmick" controller & the younger generation support.

PS3... while too expensive for most people, will show slow sales at first because of the price tag but I have a feeling that as soon as some overly iced out rapper begins "flossin" his new PS3 in his rap videos that it will be the standard for the "upper class" thus slowly pushing more and more sales. I believe that the PS3 wont make a dent till Christmas NEXT year.

Though the 360 is the best bang in my opinion (HD support / Top notch graphix / Good launch games & Killer 2nd wave launch games), it will still have to step down to the onslaught of mindless PS2/PS3 supporters. There is not enough advertising on TV in my eyes for the 360. Sony's advertising reminds me of the Geico commercials... they're ALWAYS on. To be the best, all you have to do is garner enough of publicity from Celebs and you'll take the win.

Whens the last time you heard Big Tymers or Ludacris talking about his Nintendo/Xbox??? ...but i'll be damned if I didnt hear them rappin about their PS2s every 2nd or 3rd song.

I'd like to see the 360 win though.
 
Psychotext said:
[Edit - On a different note, I don't think MS is doing half as badly as you think they are. So far they've matched or exceeded their initial expectations, however low. So obviously they were well aware of what their initial sales would be and where their competition is. I also think that due to shortages of the other consoles, better bundles and the 2nd gen games, MS will clean up this xmas.]

I don't think they're doing badly at all, I just think that they could have done better.

As far as their inital expectations go, they're expecting to sell 10 million 360's by the time the PS3 and Wii make their debut, but they've only sold about 4.5 million as of right now.

Shortages of the PS3 and Wii won't necessarily make people get 360's just because it's there. You also have to account for the grip of new games coming out for the PS2, Gamecube, and DS. If people want the PS3 and/or Wii but can't find them due to shortages, then they'll most likely buy PS2, Gamecube, and DS games while they wait instead of a 360.
 
Joose said:
360 FTW!!!!!

No but really... Wii is shooting itself in the foot with the lack of HD support. Only thing they have going for it is the "gimmick" controller & the younger generation support.

PS3... while too expensive for most people, will show slow sales at first because of the price tag but I have a feeling that as soon as some overly iced out rapper begins "flossin" his new PS3 in his rap videos that it will be the standard for the "upper class" thus slowly pushing more and more sales. I believe that the PS3 wont make a dent till Christmas NEXT year.

Though the 360 is the best bang in my opinion (HD support / Top notch graphix / Good launch games & Killer 2nd wave launch games), it will still have to step down to the onslaught of mindless PS2/PS3 supporters. There is not enough advertising on TV in my eyes for the 360. Sony's advertising reminds me of the Geico commercials... they're ALWAYS on. To be the best, all you have to do is garner enough of publicity from Celebs and you'll take the win.

Whens the last time you heard Big Tymers or Ludacris talking about his Nintendo/Xbox??? ...but i'll be damned if I didnt hear them rappin about their PS2s every 2nd or 3rd song.

I'd like to see the 360 win though.

I'm sorry, but this post is laced with so much ignorance it's not even funny. You are perhaps the first (and only) person to assume that the PSX/PS2 popularity was due to the hip hop generation. However, your biased comments tell me that you clearly do not listen to rap, as any fool could tell you that videogames have never been an overwhelmingly common theme in lyrics. The PS2 was a huge hit in all of the major videogame markets - American, European, and Asian. Do you want to tell me that the Big Tymers and Ludacris are the contributing factors to Sony's success overseas, too?

Secondly, you make the assumption that all people that buy Sony systems are 'mindless.' Of course, there's going to be some brand loyalty there (it exists within any industry, even with Microsoft's operating systems), but could it not be possible that people actually have solid reasons for preferring/buying these consoles? The original Xbox may of had the best graphics of the three, but one cannot ignore the fact that the PS2 had the majority of the third-party support and other exclusive titles that gave it an edge. Moreover, there are valid reasons to consider the PS3 despite it's higher initial price point.

Laslty, I have seen plenty of Xbox 360 commercials as of late. Virtually every network is laced with NCAA 07 and Hitman: Blood Money screens - all of which are running on Xbox 360 hardware. Just because you don't see the advertisements...that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Next time you wish to post, try using more facts instead of asinine bias.

deception``
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
Shortages of the PS3 and Wii won't necessarily make people get 360's just because it's there. You also have to account for the grip of new games coming out for the PS2, Gamecube, and DS. If people want the PS3 and/or Wii but can't find them due to shortages, then they'll most likely buy PS2, Gamecube, and DS games while they wait instead of a 360.

Early adopters of the PS3 and Wii will likely already have the systems from the last gen (the early adopters are usually a more "hardcore" type of gamer). So I can't really see them buying a PS2, etc. when they can't get their hands on a PS3 or Wii. I guarantee that if there is a shortage of PS3s and Wiis (which there almost certainly will be), the 360 will undoubtedly reap the benefits. I am not saying everyone will go out any buy one, but there will be a lot of people who will take whatever next gen system they can get their hands on come Christmas time.

All that being said, I think all the next gen systems will do well. I think Sony will likely "win" the war this time around simply because they had such a huge lead the last time. People will buy PS3 based on the name alone. I think it will be much closer, which is good for gamers in my opinion.

Competition = Good for consumer.
 
The_Law said:
I guarantee that if there is a shortage of PS3s and Wiis (which there almost certainly will be), the 360 will undoubtedly reap the benefits. I am not saying everyone will go out any buy one, but there will be a lot of people who will take whatever next gen system they can get their hands on come Christmas time.

I think the X360 will not be able to fulfill that " i want the new console " feeling. The fact that it is a year old already will cause people to wait instead until more of the "new ones" are available.
 
Well, I'd say it's awfully early to delcare a "winner." Also, what if the most popular system ends up leaving it's company at a loss? Do they still "win" ?
If we're just talking straight-up sales and not taking profit into account at all, I'll choose the 360. I'll end up getting a Wii, I have a 360, and assuming Tekken 6's an exclusive I'll likely get a PS3 eventually, too.
I think the Wii sounds great now, but I still think banking everything on a control scheme will eventually wear off. Yes, it's fun and unique now, but it also seems like something that could lead to a lot of cookie cutter motion games in the long run. It would also be funny as hell if one of the other companies created something similar and suddenly the Big N's whole gimmick is no longer all that unique.
The 360's in good positioning with Gears of War, Halo 3, GTA4, etc. but several of the "next gen" game updates like Madden and Tony Hawk aren't really much better than the normal ones. MS's multi-platform games might not really be all that great until the PS3 hits and the devs are using next gen kits for the game instead of rushing out a 360 version of a PS2 title.
The PS3 is launching with a so-so line-up and a hefty price. However it's the strongest machine and what if Blu-Ray does turn out to be the defacto DVD format? What if they pull a "Halo or GTA" game out of their ass that nobody sees coming?
Lots of X-factors out there, but I'd bet on the 360 today.
 
deception`` said:
I'm sorry, but this post is laced with so much ignorance it's not even funny. You are perhaps the first (and only) person to assume that the PSX/PS2 popularity was due to the hip hop generation. However, your biased comments tell me that you clearly do not listen to rap, as any fool could tell you that videogames have never been an overwhelmingly common theme in lyrics. The PS2 was a huge hit in all of the major videogame markets - American, European, and Asian. Do you want to tell me that the Big Tymers and Ludacris are the contributing factors to Sony's success overseas, too?

hey there lil buddy... no need to shed a tear. bwahahahah... I'm not against rap... I'm not against rappers.... but we are against those thugs. :rolleyes: how else would i know that Big Tymers & Luda all ramble on about their money and their ps2s in their cars and such.

Secondly, you make the assumption that all people that buy Sony systems are 'mindless.'

No I didnt ... but being that there are over 3x as many owners of PS2s as there are Xboxes then it would be a good assumption that there would be 3x as many uneducated consumers as there would be uneducated consumers of Xboxes. You understand that lil buddy?

Laslty, I have seen plenty of Xbox 360 commercials as of late. Virtually every network is laced with NCAA 07 and Hitman: Blood Money screens - all of which are running on Xbox 360 hardware. Just because you don't see the advertisements...that doesn't mean they don't exist.

lil buddy, you apparently you dont remember the last 4 years of PS2 commercials, now do you? i cant even remember one Xbox1 commercial.

Next time you wish to post, try using more facts instead of asinine bias.

deception``

Oh dear God... I have been deceived!!!! :eek:
 
So because people bought the game console that has the largest library of titles.. the largest amount of rpgs to chose from. Has the best backward compatibility of any console...
They are uneducated? I think you need to lay the crack pipe down and back away slowly.


Xbox was not making a dent in Sony's ps2 dominance. Thats why MS abandoned the Xbox and rushed out the 360. They are attempting to change the battlefield. Unfortunately they made some serious mistakes.. and the ps2 is still selling. the awesome thing about the ps3 is that ... If haven't gotten a ps2 you can save your money Buy the ps3... get some next generation titles..at launch.. and then also go crazy and buy a ton of the Classic Best selling Ps2 titles. That's my plan. :) And I will have a CRAPload of games to chose from that will be work guaranteed with my ps3. Talk about Gaming Nirvana.
 
The_Law said:
Early adopters of the PS3 and Wii will likely already have the systems from the last gen (the early adopters are usually a more "hardcore" type of gamer). So I can't really see them buying a PS2, etc. when they can't get their hands on a PS3 or Wii. I guarantee that if there is a shortage of PS3s and Wiis (which there almost certainly will be), the 360 will undoubtedly reap the benefits. I am not saying everyone will go out any buy one, but there will be a lot of people who will take whatever next gen system they can get their hands on come Christmas time.

Sure. Sony decides when next-gen starts, not Microsoft.

The PS2 is marching strong, Microsoft will still have to fight to get sales this year.
 
I'm a Nintendo !!!!!! and I've been generally impressed by the 360's execution. Having had over a year's lead, they've (hopefully) got rid out of the quirky/guinea pig mode of buggy hardware, and are finally seeing more mature software development. And I don't want to sound like a mindless "i love puurty graphics" idiot, but 720p is nice as a baseline. After playing NBA 2k6 and Fight Night with friends, 360 has me as a believer. And they certainly have a ton of titles coming out--alot of it original too.

In that sense, I can see where the Dreamcast comparisons come from. 360 does not have the luxury of a large Mario or Zelda franchise, which makes new game franchises a bigger deal. Before someone mentions the EA franchise, yes, but EA is on all the consoles, so it's not really an issue.

With the Wii, we already know that first party Nintendo will have the titles ready. Again, just like the 64/GC days, we get into the quality vs. quantity department. The question is can Nintendo have cake (stellar 1st party) and eat it too (stellar 3rd party support, and maybe even new franchises).
 
ReubenRosa said:
Xbox was not making a dent in Sony's ps2 dominance. Thats why MS abandoned the Xbox and rushed out the 360. They are attempting to change the battlefield. Unfortunately they made some serious mistakes.. and the ps2 is still selling. the awesome thing about the ps3 is that ... If haven't gotten a ps2 you can save your money Buy the ps3... get some next generation titles..at launch.. and then also go crazy and buy a ton of the Classic Best selling Ps2 titles. That's my plan. :) And I will have a CRAPload of games to chose from that will be work guaranteed with my ps3. Talk about Gaming Nirvana.

That sounds like a weak soss excuse to an upcoming pathetic launch. :)
 
PikachuMan said:
Sure. Sony decides when next-gen starts, not Microsoft.

Sigh. Will the !!!!! never cease. I really wish people would realize competition is a good thing. Rooting for utter domination by one console is not good for gamers.

Edit: I don't mean this to say you can't be a "fan" of a company. There is nothing wrong with that (many car companies rely heavily on this). The problem is that while you are a fan of one company, you should not wish for the demise of all others. If you think Sony is the best, then great, only buy the PS3. But you still shouldn't root for failure of MS and Nintendo. Doing so only indicates that the whole theory of capitalism is lost on you. More competition equals better products and lower prices. So go ahead and root for your favorite company, but also root that its competition stays closely on its tail.
 
The_Law said:
Sigh. Will the !!!!! never cease. I really wish people would realize competition is a good thing. Rooting for utter domination by one console is not good for gamers.

Exactly why to root against Sony. Level the playing field so it doesnt turn into a washed out internet browser war like Microsoft & Netscape... MS won and since has made zero attempt to improve upon anything. Having all 3 rather than a dominant party provides us with cheaper pricing as well as more innovation.
 
The_Law said:
I really wish people would realize competition is a good thing. Rooting for utter domination by one console is not good for gamers.

Amen. There is absolutely no advantage for consumers with a company having control of this market. Control simply lets a company get sloppy and start raising prices, knowing that they're the only option people have. This isn't your local football team people, you don't need to blindly support one or the other. You also don't need to criticize people that make other choices that suit their lifestyle and preferences.

Nintendo isn't for kids, PS3 isn't for skaters and xbox isn't for middle aged family men. :)
 
Joose said:
hey there lil buddy... no need to shed a tear. bwahahahah... I'm not against rap... I'm not against rappers.... but we are against those thugs. :rolleyes: how else would i know that Big Tymers & Luda all ramble on about their money and their ps2s in their cars and such.

The problem here is that you don't know - sure, some artists talk about their wordly possessions (this is common), but rapping about a PS2 is not. To say otherwise is a flat out lie.

No I didnt ... but being that there are over 3x as many owners of PS2s as there are Xboxes then it would be a good assumption that there would be 3x as many uneducated consumers as there would be uneducated consumers of Xboxes. You understand that lil buddy?

The Toyota Camry is the best selling car in America. Does that mean that Camry owners are uneducated? How about the fact that people flock toward Honda Accords and Civics for their excellent gas mileage and comfortable price? You want to tell me that all of those people are uneducated, lil buddy?

lil buddy, you apparently you dont remember the last 4 years of PS2 commercials, now do you? i cant even remember one Xbox1 commercial.

Perhaps that is a testament to good marketing on Sony's part, or just your inability to recognize commercials for titles such as: Fable, Splinter Cell (entire series), Halo, Halo 2, Star Wars: KOTR, Ninja Gaiden, and other heavily marketed titles. If you did not see these, you're either (a) blind (b) don't watch much TV or (c) deliberately lying in order to paint Sony into some evil monster.

BTW - calling me lil buddy does nothing to make your points appear any less foolish and one-sided.

deception``
 
The_Law said:
Early adopters of the PS3 and Wii will likely already have the systems from the last gen (the early adopters are usually a more "hardcore" type of gamer). So I can't really see them buying a PS2, etc. when they can't get their hands on a PS3 or Wii. I guarantee that if there is a shortage of PS3s and Wiis (which there almost certainly will be), the 360 will undoubtedly reap the benefits. I am not saying everyone will go out any buy one, but there will be a lot of people who will take whatever next gen system they can get their hands on come Christmas time.

No, you misunderstand.


Not PS2/Gamecube/DS consoles, but games.
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
No, you misunderstand.


Not PS2/Gamecube/DS consoles, but games.


Ahh, I get you. That definitely makes sense. A shortage of PS3s will definitely result in many people just picking up games for their PS2s, but I think it will also result in some (whether that is a lot, or only a few) people picking up the 360 instead.
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
Not PS2/Gamecube/DS consoles, but games.
I'm not sure games will fill the hole though. Not when there are so many new and shiny things flying around. It's one thing going back to school and saying you got the new x, y, or z but quite another to say you got a few new games for your old system.

As always, time will tell. Personally I'm really looking forward to watching the battle unfold. Gamers never had it so good.
 
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