DICE is a disgrace!

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defiant007

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Okay this has gone on long enough.....I could put up with the general bugginess of BF2 that has been pervasive since its release, but the constant server crashing that has been introduced by patch 1.3 is unforgiveable!

I generally cannot play longer than a couple of rounds before the entire server crashes and boots everyone to the multi lobby. There is nothing more infuriating than spending 10 minutes trying to find a decent server with decent players, and then getting booted 15 minutes later!

You wouldnt put up with this sort of shoddy programming from microsoft, why do we have to put up with it from DICE?!

Dice's general indifference and failure to immediately release a hotpatch is nothing more than a big "fukc you" to the community that has made it what it is.

Fukc you too DICE!
 
Well, those of us that are capable of this thing I like to call "Patience" and "Getting On With It" aren't so concerned, having followed the teachings of Life's Too Short To Get Pissy Over Such Inconsequential Things and I Am Capable Of Finding Stimulation Elsewhere.

Sure, it's annoying, and waiting for a bit on a full server to join a friend, nicking the first free spot and then having it crash the moment the map loads is pretty shitty, and i'll piss and moan about it for a while and swear at the screen, but ultimately it's not such a big deal. I think it's something to live with until 1.4 is released, which should be pretty soon by the sounds of things.

Just have to see what problems 1.4 creates... :D
 
defiant007 said:
Okay this has gone on long enough.....I could put up with the general bugginess of BF2 that has been pervasive since its release, but the constant server crashing that has been introduced by patch 1.3 is unforgiveable!

I generally cannot play longer than a couple of rounds before the entire server crashes and boots everyone to the multi lobby. There is nothing more infuriating than spending 10 minutes trying to find a decent server with decent players, and then getting booted 15 minutes later!

You wouldnt put up with this sort of shoddy programming from microsoft, why do we have to put up with it from DICE?!

Dice's general indifference and failure to immediately release a hotpatch is nothing more than a big "fukc you" to the community that has made it what it is.

Fukc you too DICE!
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Have you ever used Windows ME? I rest my case. :p
 
defiant007 said:
I generally cannot play longer than a couple of rounds before the entire server crashes and boots everyone to the multi lobby. There is nothing more infuriating than spending 10 minutes trying to find a decent server with decent players, and then getting booted 15 minutes later!
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And then waiting 10 minutes for your new server to load a map!
 
Wally said:
Well, those of us that are capable of this thing I like to call "Patience" and "Getting On With It" aren't so concerned
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What on earth are you talking about? The game has had problems since its release and with every patch comes new problems. You must be the most patient person on earth because everyone who plays that damn game has had to deal with the constant shit that DICE/EA has dealt out. So patience is no virtue in this case buddy.
 
I think BF2 is terrible. Buggy. Interface is a piece of work in itself. You would have thought they would have made the interface better after the first 2 times, but they didn't. DICE has a long way to go before it can gain my respect.
 
TekSomniaK said:
What on earth are you talking about? The game has had problems since its release and with every patch comes new problems. You must be the most patient person on earth because everyone who plays that damn game has had to deal with the constant shit that DICE/EA has dealt out. So patience is no virtue in this case buddy.
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Try reading the rest of my post and not replying to out-of context sections. Thanks for your contribution regardless.

EDIT: Also; what the fuck? How is patience not a virtue? How is patience irrelevant to re-starting the game and watching it load again?

What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? Do you understand what you have just said?

What the fuck?
 
Wally said:
Try reading the rest of my post and not replying to out-of context sections. Thanks for your contribution regardless.

EDIT: Also; what the fuck? How is patience not a virtue? How is patience irrelevant to re-starting the game and watching it load again?

What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? Do you understand what you have just said?

What the fuck?
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Ok so what are you trying to get at here? Read what I typed. We've all been "PATIENT" for over a year. I think you need some horse tranquilizers if you're gonna freak out about that.
 
TekSomniaK said:
Ok so what are you trying to get at here? Read what I typed. We've all been "PATIENT" for over a year. I think you need some horse tranquilizers if you're gonna freak out about that.
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Totally, I don't even play the game and thinking about paying that much for a buggy game with crappy servers annoys me (and I'm really not one to be annoyed easily).
 
The word around the campfire is that EA wont let the coders at DICE fix all the bugs in 2, due to 2142 comin out so soon.
 
The way I look at things is that Yes, BF2 has been full of bugs since day 1 and we have all dealt with it for a long time. But bitching and whining about it has not gotten anything done. So the easiest solution is, stop playing it and lower your blood pressure or keep playing it and STFU
 
BF2 sucks.. Plain and simple.. It would be a great game, if it wasn't still a beta..
So, line up suckers for more of the same with 2142.. Maybe they will finish that one b4 they release it.. But, prolly not.. Why should they? People will buy it anyway..

If that sounded like a rant, it was... I can't stand to see people rave over a product that bug ridden.. If MS put something like that out there people around here would be raisin' a lynch mob.. WinME is more stable than BF2..

I actually like the game.. It is no longer installed on my comp because, my gaming time is limited.. I don't have time for long level load times followed by a boot back to the lobby to start over... Why waste time with BF2's bugginess when I can be up and running in UT2004, or CS..

In short, I agree with the OP... And obviously, I will not be wasting my money on the next installment..
 
Please list the bugs that BF2 still retains, besides the crashes from 1.3 and the interface.
 
Both EA and Dice are retarded. I don't know why so many people buy and hype their games. Madden, BF 2 .3 (I say .3 because the game is missing over 2/3rds its content. But of course you can buy the content, to make the game feel whole, for just 29.99 a pop :D)

really though, how does EA do it? Their games are a complete joke yet every frat jock and redneck in the world talks the games up like they are the next devine revelation.
 
deathBOB said:
Please list the bugs that BF2 still retains, besides the crashes from 1.3 and the interface.
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Red name tag bug
Blue name tag bug
After loading the game sometimes goes back to the UI while you're in game
Sniper rifle rapidly zooms in and out sometimes without pressing anything
Can't revive someone on a hill
Switching to gunner seat while in a bomber causes missle to lose lock
Sometimes you somehow automatically create a squad and can't leave
Can't create or join squad
While using shockpaddles/ammo bag/ medic bag and pressing mouse1 in quick succesion causes you to spam the appropriate team message
Sometimes shooting a tank round and scoring a direct hit on a vehicle causes them to not take any damage at all and you can see the explosion
 
Eagle156 said:
Red name tag bug
Blue name tag bug
After loading the game sometimes goes back to the UI while you're in game
Sniper rifle rapidly zooms in and out sometimes without pressing anything
Can't revive someone on a hill
Switching to gunner seat while in a bomber causes missle to lose lock
Sometimes you somehow automatically create a squad and can't leave
Can't create or join squad
While using shockpaddles/ammo bag/ medic bag and pressing mouse1 in quick succesion causes you to spam the appropriate team message
Sometimes shooting a tank round and scoring a direct hit on a vehicle causes them to not take any damage at all and you can see the explosion
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I think you should include horrible game imbalances.

DICE has a pendulum effect when adjusting things. When people whine about something that is too strong, DICE just swings the balance the other way instead of keeping it in the middle where it should be.

The blackhawk gun is almost useless now
AA missles sometimes go right through flares
J10 is a super plane, not even a contest unless an idiot is flying it
The weapons generally feel inaccurate, which leads to frustration sometimes
Tanks are made out of paper when it comes to driving over terrain
Vehicles have very little torque
The game needs greater visibility, especially for air units(BF1942 was way better in this regard)

BF2142 could be jesus in a box for all I care, I wouldn't buy it just because of the half- job DICE did with BF2.
 
I try to stay open minded, i've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of BF2 despite it's short comings. That said, the way things have been handled post 1.3 are compleatly unaccepable, i was fine with things while everyone else was bitching about everything from overpowered Blackhawks to sniper like PKMs to the infrequent red tag bug to underpowered Blackhawks, because despite these issues i could still play and have a good time, Now i can't, i get stuck in ghost squads, the server crashes, the tag bug has become more comon instead of less, changes implimented to asuge the whiny forum posters have compleatly fucked the balance.

I'm honestly begining to suspect that, as the hype ramps up for 2142, EA is trying to get players ready to jump ship to he new title when it releases.
 
defiant007 said:
You wouldnt put up with this sort of shoddy programming from microsoft...
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Yes, you would. We're pretty much out of options at this point. Even if Vista is the worst OS ever created, I can't see many gamers boycotting DX10...
 
It's not Dice, it is EA
EA corrupts everything it touches
Support for BF2 is going to be non-existint soon...
There is a new game for EA to make $ on...
BF2142...
EA doesn't want to spend $ supporting an old game (BF2), there is no $ in it...
In fact it will probably be very hard to connect to a server soon, much less be able to play a whole round...
Look at what they did to the Command & Conquer series.
When BF2142 comes out you will love it, it will be buggy, and it won't be complete....
You need to buy the expansion for that...
And then it will be buggy...
Then they will start developing a new game and forget about BF2142..
Then you won't be able to play a round or connect to that either...

Bottom line is that there is no $ in patches, and all EA cares about is $.
They made a great game and they know you will buy the next installment...
After all we have been putting up with this for years...
Why should it change?



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i think some poeple whine a little way too much. I havent had no crashes to desktop or any connectio nproblems since installing 1.4

The gameplay is still fun adn this red tag blue tag thing, i havent seen in 1.4. I see good things coming from this patch.

Oh yeah, 2 minutes max to connect to a server the first time, and after map changes maybe a minute or less and this is on 64 man servers.
 
Played for hours today, no crashes nothing. ONly one problem for me, is the red name tags. Only problem I encountered since day one. I guess I am lucky lol.
 
Bugs?! WTF?!

Features. Learn that and you're gold.

I like BF2. Its fun as hell. Sure, the menu interface sucks (a long load time for a menu?!), and the online play does have a few issues, but if you don't like it that much, don't play it. What's that?! It's a fun game? :) Exactly.

Windows has it's "features"... Bugs... Whatever... I still use it as my main OS. Every piece of software has issues. Get used to it.

I'm gonna go play BF2 while you bitch about it not working. :rolleyes:
 
I was once like the original poster.

Until I realized that Dice scored a contract with a HUGE name in gaming (EA) and can put out their game as buggy as it is, as long as the overall idea of the gameplay is original/fun. To me, it seems that EA is the big shiny, flashy nothing, whereas other (more ethical) companies tend to focus more on perfecting the product their consumers payed good money for rather than forcefeeding them the same old buggy crap.

/rant

That's just how I see EA based on all the PC games I've played with their name on them (excluding HL2, which Valve stayed true with and never let EA actually "touch" it).
 
on a side note: Nice motherboard Volume. Did that cost a lot for a motherboard that supports both AGP and pci-exp?

on topic: Games of this nature are sure to be riddled with bugs. I've bitched my fair share when on my way to a 100 point round and I crash to desktop. But that doesn't happen *that* often.

It is annoying that certain things dont' get fixed though, and the poster that listed about a dozen things buggy with the game, I've experienced all those. How hard is it to fix those bugs from one patch to another??
 
I hate to say it but I gave up on BF2 a long time ago. I usually dont mind when games come out with a few bugs that have to be patched, but patching 5 or 6 times to solve one problem that just creates another problem is not worth my time. But there is nothing I can do about it so O well :(
 
I love it when folks clamor to defend their right to be fucked over. Hilarious.
I like the game so you are an idiot to not want to be fucked over. It's your fault for expecting the software to actually work..........stupid.
 
TekSomniaK said:
Ok so what are you trying to get at here? Read what I typed. We've all been "PATIENT" for over a year. I think you need some horse tranquilizers if you're gonna freak out about that.
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My point was that i'd read what you'd typed, and it actually is nonsensical, something you appear to remain oblivious to.

Oh well, can't all be intelligent, I guess...
 
1. All people do is bunnyhop.
2. All people do is prone spam.

Ever scrimmed the game? No? Don't even try.
 
Digital Oxide said:
1. All people do is bunnyhop.
2. All people do is prone spam.

Ever scrimmed the game? No? Don't even try.
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Funny, sounds just like Halo 2 online. Fucking hate it.
 
deathBOB said:
Have you ever used Windows ME? I rest my case. :p
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QFT, ME = Mistake Edition. it was more an Oh Shit! then an OS. goood i hate ME.

anywho. yea i tried BF2, but like a the CAL-Im CS player i am i had to turn it down. wft? my spray was like.... wtf? WTF?! lol.

but for the little while i did play it i did notice glitches. it was messed. i was getting booted all over the place.

then im sorta playing the hipocryte. Steam is no perfect program either. Friends thing doesnt work, i get the occasional "Timed out while accepting a challenge", which to this day i have no idea what it is. Friends thing hasnt worked for ages but, Xfire/vent/teamspeak take care of that for me.

but then there really differant fps games. 1.6 has some insane "physics (oh kill me by shooting thru that 8ft thick wall will you? well just see about that.......... BOOTED)".

no but if you want good graphics and a generally non-glitchy system i recomend CS:S, its awsome, no shooting thru 8ft thick walls tho. but then i have noticed that they do have differant resistances depending on the material you shoot. its on a powerful engine... uhh.... good maps, strats required if you get pro enough...
 
Wally said:
Sure, it's annoying, and waiting for a bit on a full server to join a friend, nicking the first free spot and then having it crash the moment the map loads is pretty shitty, and i'll piss and moan about it for a while and swear at the screen, but ultimately it's not such a big deal.
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Though, it's attitudes like this that are going to make it ok for developers to release a buggy/unfinished product.
 
what's truly sad is as crappy as it is that I still play it more than any other game. That's a sign of the times in gaming IMO.

btw I don't hop unless I am in really close range and am trying to jump over someone and I never prone spam or c4 chuck. despite that I am real damn effective as infantry. if someone is hopping and pissing u off grab a shotty and BOOM! ;)
 
My BF2 love is slowly fading away, as I can't even play it atm since I brought my FC5 box with me to university.

Anyways, EA really can "pull the plug" so to speak on BF2, by just telling the ranked server people to stop doing stats/etc and switch over to 2142, or threaten to take away the contract if they don't switch. Then the majority of players will probably stop playing (awards give me some incentive to tolerate crashing/retard pubbers/etc and keep playing) other than the tournies and stuff like BF2C.
 
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