mmmmmm.... DDR2!

noobtech said:
I think you'll get about 4.0 Ghz now...
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heh, sadly unlikely... maybe with some LN2 and some VERY good luck with cold bugs :p

the 3.12ghz is a suicide run though, but at least max prime95 stable seems to be just over 2.95ghz with 1.6-1.65v.. might be able to get a bit more with tweaking of some memory options, we'll see.


edit: good news. msi replied to my list of issues and things that need to be changed. hopefully something good will come out of this, and it makes me happy that msi at least tries.

Hi Mark,
Thanks you very much for contacting MSI; your input is very important
to us.
For all suggestions below, we will discuss with our engineers and
implement it step by step onto future BIOS updates for the board.

Should you have any further question, please feel free to contact Robert
Nemecek, Technical Marketing Assistant, or me directly.

Once again, thanks for your time.

Best regards,
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I'm glad to see MSI "Thanks you". :p Hopefully they get the board working better though, I know my MSI K8N Neo Plat was a really nice board, hate to see the AM2 version go blah.

 
tsuehpsyde said:
I know my MSI K8N Neo Plat was a really nice board, hate to see the AM2 version go blah.
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yeah, my k8n neo was kickass too.. once they got to bios 1.5 or so. clocked better than my dfi nf3-250gb at the same settings even :eek:
 
I hope they get the issues resolved, too. It looks like a good board and it's less expensive than the Asus offerings.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
yeah, my k8n neo was kickass too.. once they got to bios 1.5 or so. clocked better than my dfi nf3-250gb at the same settings even :eek:
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And slot #2 was viable.

 
bassman said:
I hope they get the issues resolved, too. It looks like a good board and it's less expensive than the Asus offerings.
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yeah, i have a feeling that most of the "issues" will be an easy fix. if anyone cares, i'm currently at 370mhz htt in windows, presumably with a bit of headroom too. i post a cpu validation of the max once i get there

tsue.. slot 2?



edit: 391mhz. not quite 400, but defintly not bad
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=97566
 
hahaha, i should be able to do around 3.3ghz with some ice water. 3.5ghz is definitly pushing my luck :p :D

but it is curious that i can get to 391mhz in windows, but the board absolutely refuses to boot over 322mhz (yes, there is a defined limit. 322mhz = perfectly happy, 323mhz = no boot whatsoever)
 
to bad it wont boot at anything higher cause i was real excited about 391
keep it up man this is fun
do u think a bios update might change the 322 issue whenever they release a new one
 
Gun_Strife said:
to bad it wont boot at anything higher cause i was real excited about 391
keep it up man this is fun
do u think a bios update might change the 322 issue whenever they release a new one
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i'll make sure it does with the next bios.. or my board does at least :p

Jason711, no. that's the max shot i can get. i do believe i said somewhere that 2.95ghz is about the max i can get stable. 3.1ghz might be doable with some ice water though :p
 
a bit faster :D

the 256kb cache doesn't help a whole lot though :(

any bench requests people want to see? keep in mind i've got a 7600gt and a single channel with 256mb for now, so preferably nothing really demanding on the ram's capacity
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
a bit faster :D

the 256kb cache doesn't help a whole lot though :(

any bench requests people want to see? keep in mind i've got a 7600gt and a single channel with 256mb for now, so preferably nothing really demanding on the ram's capacity
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cinebench cpu render test :)
 
when will we see eclipses overclock guide for am2? i dont quite understand all of this stuff/.
 
tvdang7 said:
when will we see eclipses overclock guide for am2? i dont quite understand all of this stuff/.
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once i'm done getting the hang of this board really. the basic idea behind it all is exactly the same, just that the ram speed has gone from being ddr400 to ddr600 to ddr2-400 to ddr2-1200, and as a result, we have to use different memory ratios. other than that, it really is identical

lw3d said:
cinebench cpu render test :)
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can do, give me a bit. need breakfast first :D

Scooter30 said:
Pictures aren't loading for me. :(
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working fine for me now.. my host may have gone down for some reason during the night

some good news, the ballistix should be here on monday.. and from the looks of things, i might actually be able to do some 4x1gb tests for you guys! :D
 
gah! no ones posted the coolest Nforce 500 board of them all! the one board to rule them all! to find them all! and one board to.... in the darkness bind them..... (?)

Foxconn's own board the C51XEM2AA:
The board Black, newest chipset, newest socket, you can expect this thing to go for alot.
the bridge + socket The northbridge (black HS) gets a little hot. Nvidia says its rated to get burn-your-finger hot.
South Bridge Its said that this thing, regarless of its sick yet inefficient design, is quiet, and keeps the bridge cool.
Drives Support 6 SATA devices!

Zip Zoom Fly has em for $250. not bad. im just waiting to see what DFI does, because there not one to be one-uped by anyone in terms of overclocking, even if there one uped by the chipset.
 
yeah, except where can you buy it? ;)

i do believe i spot the richtek R9173A vtt terminator.. which is sorta a good sign :p

and i think almost all the nf5 boards support 6 sata :D
 
bah im just editing my post to answer questions by eclips,

yea the chipset supports 6 drives, im just saying its cool! :D
 
holy shit. $250. i refuse to support any company that charges that much for a board.. let alone a reference board that they probably didn't put too much effort into designing :p


dfi.. i'm not so sure how i feel about them this time around. i guess either way, i should try all the boards just to see how they clock


edit: 2950mhz and ram at 492mhz, 4-4-3 timings (single channel), i get a cinebench time of 1:13, score of 359. it feels like cinebench is trying to use more ram than i've got though, it hangs up for like 2-3 seconds a few times in the beginning
 
bump, cause something showed up today ;)

shot2.jpg


and i have to apologize for the slow pics. my host seems to be having serious issues atm :(
 
no more pregnant women in the state of California only, cause its only known to be deadly in that state, hafta worry about handing ddr2 by Crucial. no more worrying for me!
 
fuelvolts said:
Well, its been 3 hours - what's new????
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won't have results till tonight, sorry. hanging out with the gf now ;)

i can say that i think msi's bios needs work with 2x1gb.. or i should use the other two slots
 
"With the switch to DDR2, AMD runs up against a problem: DDR2-800 has a clock speed of 400 MHz and can therefore no longer be divided by all previously envisaged CPU clock speeds. And the highest speed possible is not divisible by 400.

But how does the CPU react if a memory timing is set which cannot be divided by the CPU clock speed?

AMD came up with something smart here: if a divider is produced that exceeds the next possible JEDEC-compliant standard memory clock (400, 533, 667, 800), the next lower divider is selected automatically."

Did you run into that at all???

What are your thoughts on this?
 
WoWchamp said:
AMD came up with something smart here: if a divider is produced that exceeds the next possible JEDEC-compliant standard memory clock (400, 533, 667, 800), the next lower divider is selected automatically."
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i think you're missing the fact that this is identical to what amd did with the ddr1 controller. look at what happens at ddr333. there are some cases where the 166mhz ram will be running at 157mhz :D
and yes, i have been having to deal with it. stock speeds, ddr2-800 actually runs at 360mhz. nothing that a 200mhz oc on the cpu can't fix though... or a 1ghz oc :cool:


though it seems i'm gonna need a LOT more cpu mhz to get good bandwidth efficiency.. kinda annoying, but at least at 400mhz, i'm getting about the same amout of bandwidth as i was at 560mhz in single channel, with a higher cpu clock
 
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