Biostar Tforce overclocking stories??

on my amd stock x2 heatsink the pipes face the top outer edge of the board.

Is that ocz didnt 1:1 with htt? Maybe i have a shitty board for ram overclock.

im in the yellow slots of the ram if that makes a difference.
 
My rig is watercooled, so it idles at around 28C and goes up to 35C on load :x I don't have much info on temps on different setups.
 
i just ordered another biostar and if i plug the ethernet in the system wont boot. guess its going back.
 
lw3d said:
read the manual
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Could you please elaborate here? I'm can't get my ram to run at 1T on the 6100-939 either and I didn't see anything in the manual that said it had issue with 1T. The damn thing is about to go back, if this cannot be remedied. I've had more trouble trying to get my relatively moderate overclock stable - I'm running my Gskill 2gb DDR500 Kit at only 227mhz (5:6 divider), and it still errors out during a prime blend test!


Edit: here are my settings - tell me if any seem funny.

CPU - Opti 165
Board - Tforce 6100-939
RAM- Gskill 2gb DDR500 3-4-4-8 Kit

Cpu Voltage - 1.450v
Memory Voltage - 2.70v

Cpu frequency - 279
Hammer FID control - x9
HT Frequency - 3x
PCI-E clock 100mhz
Memclock Freqency -166mhz
Memory Timing 1T
DRAM Config - 3-4-4-8 and the rest left at default

BIOS - can't find the revision. However, according to the Bios Setup Flash Utility, the current Bios Date is 1/27/2006. It is the one currently up on Biostar's Tforce utilities page.

I've been testing with clockgen using EclipseOC's method, and my CPU seems to go up to at least 2576, HTT to about 300, and Ram to about 236mhz (in memtest - havn't retested since getting my RMA'ed RAM) Something is screwed up somewhere, I'm sure of it. SP2004's Small FFT Test will run all night without a problem, but the Blend or Large FFT tests error out at seemingly random intervals between 10 minutes and 6 hours.

I recently RMAed my Ram and I'm still having the same problem so this has to be a function of the motherboard.

What bios version SHOULD I be using? Are there any other settings I should tweak, as everything else has been left defalt? I hear there's something about the NB > SB that should be changed?

Fun fact - After a Cmos reset, for whatever reason the board tries to default my Ram to 2.5-4-2-8 2T. I have to manually set it back to 3-4-4-8 1T
 
Yes, I forgot to mention that. Both sticks are in the yellow slots. I had problems with the green slots some time ago.
 
In order to oc both spead spectrum and cool and quiet need to be disabled. They are not in the same bios category. Look through all the tforce bios menus and get to know them. By the way there is a new bios for the Tforce 939 but I do not think that is your problem http://www.biostar.cn/supports/BIOS.asp?vID=32&SID=32&MID=26&Value=417

ON My Tfoce I have a 165 and a set of Ballistix. I am running the system 310 x 9 x 166 x 1T. If I go to the 183 divider I have to use 2T

I have a set of Gskill HZ UCCC but on an Ultra - d, make sure yours are UCCC because I read that the newer ones are not. I would manually set all RAM timings. see if this helps and adjust accordingly

optoc2.jpg
 
I didn't see one either. I'm going to try and update to the latest bios, and turn off spread spectrum and Cool'nQuiet. I seem to remember a number of "spread spectrum"s were in the bios somewhere. Is there a specific one, like CPU etc... that should be off or should all of them?

Its odd that the english biostar site doesn't list those bios updates. I'm going to grab the one marked 2006-6-02 at the top.
 
I posted that picture only to help you manually set your Gskill UCCC memory
 
what bios are you guys using i cant make for the love of god make the tforce start with my Gskill HZ , bh5 will boot fine....gskill will just give me long beeps....
 
i just flashed with the newest one post up a couple posts and now we have 150 and 183 mem dividers. Doesnt make my gskill run any better but i can hit 200 with my pc3200 though.
 
Can someone plz help! I just got this motherboard, but for some reason it won't shutdown properly. The cpu hsf, lights, and my drives won't turn off. Am I missing something with the setup?
 
good to see the 150 and 183 divider in the bios. Now i just need ram to handle either of those.
 
Hey all,

I'm hoping that someone can shed some light on my little problem.

1st off - the specs:

Biostar Tforce-939
Opteron 146 - Stock HSF
2 x 512MB Generic DDR400
430w Antec TruePower (20-pin)
Ati x600 PCI-E g/card

I can do 48 hours of Prime at 250mhz (2T), Mem @ 133mhz and 1.45v (BIOS) without breaking a sweat. But as soon as I reboot WinXP I get that "CPU Safe Mode" warning and it defaults back to 2.0ghz. I'm running the latest BIOS (2 June 2006). I even tried bumping up the voltage to 1.5v in the BIOS. It will then load into WinXP but if I do a soft-reboot, I get the CPU Safe Mode warning.

Any ideas?
 
Not sure what happening but i got that all last night after i added my opt 165 and g.skill ddr 500. Took out the ram and added my hyperx 3500 and it would boot. Even default settings i would get the cpu at default error. Might look for a different bios like the modded one.

i have the offical 602 but im going to try the modded one tonight.

6100-939
 
I've never had that problem with the CPU, but I've always used the modded BIOS's also, so that could be a factor. Try the modded BIOS and see if that resolves your situation.


Good Luck!
 
mascotzel said:
does anyone know if the Socket754 version supports mobile's?!
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I'm posting from this config. 1 MB Clawhammer 3000+ BIX5AR, IIRC from mid-2004.

Locking up upon cold or warm resets, though. New board I haven't played with much; still using the onboard video, as I don't have a PCX videocard yet.
 
currently dual priming at 315htt @ 1.50 set in bios but we all know this board undervolts. ram is doing 203 and wont go over 205.

anyone know where to down the biostar overclock utility? i have it on the desk but i was hoping there was as newer version since mine is set really high and crashes when i try to use it now.
 
So i started overclocking on my Clawhammer 3000+ on a TForce 6100-754 last night, and i was following the quick and dirty " Easy as 1, 2, 3, Overclocking the A64 " sticky guide on ocforum: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=391768

The first part:
1) Max OC of HTT and FSB w/ high and low HTT multi


I was working on part one, and it says to set your CPU multi down to like 6x (10x stock), and your memory divider down low to like 133, and max multi for HTT and up the bus until you hit instability. This is to isolate each component OC. They say to use a multi of 5x, but since i have a 754 board i used 4x (800 max on my board, although i DO have a 5x mulit, wonder why). Anyway, i also set the NB->SB and SB->NB multis to 4x as well. IDK what these do exactly, but i think it should be at the same multi as HTT multi... can you shed some light on that?

Anyway, so im upping the bus frequency from 200, and eventually i get to 250 and its unstable, so i back down to 245 and its stable.

Then it says, to make sure your mobo isnt fsb limited, set your HTT multi low as well, and continue to up the fsb. So, i lower HTT mulit to 2x, and the NB->SB and SB->NB to 2x as well, and guess what: cant get any higher than 245

I even tried lower them to 1x, no difference.

Any idea why i cant get my mobo to go higher than 245, even thought the HTT (and NB->SB, and SB->) multis are at 1x, my mem divider is at 133, and my processor is at 6x? I should be able to push the fsb up way past 245 dont you think? i mean, people with optys and whatnot NEED to get their fsb up to close to 300 and such, and this board has
the option to go above 300 i think.

BTW, i know FSB is the wrong term for A64, but there you go

Basically, ive got CPU, HTT, NB and SB multis low, and ram divider low, to isolate FSB. it wont go past 245, which is the same FSB i get to with HTT and NB/SB at 4x. Now, i read earlier in the thread (specifically the starter) that he had similar problems, and there was talk of HTT multi not going lower than 4x even if you set it lower, which sound like exactly what my problem is. Only thing is, first off he has 939 board, and second he flashed BIOS and fixed it. Now, it appears Biostar’s support of the 754 board has been slack, b/c there aren’t many BIOS for it. I DID find some modded BIOSes on the Rebels Haven forum, check it out:
http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/53/57.html

i flashed to CR51M602RH , which is the modded version of the newest. idk where people are getting these BIOSes for 754 board though, all i can find on the biostar english sites is 207 http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/download/download_details.php?id=1
and 306http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/download/download_details.php?id=1

Now, i DID find the 602, and what MAY be a newer 529 on the Chinese site, but i cant read them, and i dont even know if these BIOSes are in English:
http://www.biostar.cn/supports/BIOS.asp?vID=32&SID=32&MID=26&Value=416

Another issue: so ive got the RH modded 602 BIOS, but i dont see the
"1T/2T memory Timing" option in the overlcok nav engine... can anyone confirm that that option SHOULD be there in the 754 BIOS? its not in mine... maybe the RH BIOS got messed up, or maybe the BIOS flash messed up a little?

i don’t know.. .besides, 1T/2T timings shouldn’t be keeping my FSB at 145 with the memclock at 133... im thinking it MUST be something with this BIOS i have

anyone have ANY info on 754 BIOSes, what revisions do what, what works, what doesn’t, and anyone who’s gotten above 245 with 754m what BIOS do you have?

The reason i like the RH BIOS is they removed the spash screen (which supposedly isn’t an issue in the offical 602 bios, so i might try that, but im afraid it’ll be in Chinese if i DL it form that site, and i cant find it anywhere else!)

Oh, and here’s a success sory from Pejantan on page 2 of the RH 754 bios thread with the 602RH BIOS: "with 0602 RH mod bios i could get my smpy 2500+ to FSB 422"

whats wrong with mine? thoughts? Oh, and i aplogize that this post Is so long, but im trying to be as clear and concise as possible, and i also apologize if mods here don’t like linking to other sites, but im not redirecting for people to find help elsewhere, im just trying to show people what im talking about... so, thoughts anyone?

Thanks for your time and help!
 
sirrealist said:
So i started overclocking on my Clawhammer 3000+ on a TForce 6100-754 last night, and i was following the quick and dirty " Easy as 1, 2, 3, Overclocking the A64 " sticky guide on ocforum: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=391768

The first part:
1) Max OC of HTT and FSB w/ high and low HTT multi


I was working on part one, and it says to set your CPU multi down to like 6x (10x stock), and your memory divider down low to like 133, and max multi for HTT and up the bus until you hit instability. This is to isolate each component OC. They say to use a multi of 5x, but since i have a 754 board i used 4x (800 max on my board, although i DO have a 5x mulit, wonder why). Anyway, i also set the NB->SB and SB->NB multis to 4x as well. IDK what these do exactly, but i think it should be at the same multi as HTT multi... can you shed some light on that?

Anyway, so im upping the bus frequency from 200, and eventually i get to 250 and its unstable, so i back down to 245 and its stable.

Then it says, to make sure your mobo isnt fsb limited, set your HTT multi low as well, and continue to up the fsb. So, i lower HTT mulit to 2x, and the NB->SB and SB->NB to 2x as well, and guess what: cant get any higher than 245

I even tried lower them to 1x, no difference.

Any idea why i cant get my mobo to go higher than 245, even thought the HTT (and NB->SB, and SB->) multis are at 1x, my mem divider is at 133, and my processor is at 6x? I should be able to push the fsb up way past 245 dont you think? i mean, people with optys and whatnot NEED to get their fsb up to close to 300 and such, and this board has
the option to go above 300 i think.

BTW, i know FSB is the wrong term for A64, but there you go

Basically, ive got CPU, HTT, NB and SB multis low, and ram divider low, to isolate FSB. it wont go past 245, which is the same FSB i get to with HTT and NB/SB at 4x. Now, i read earlier in the thread (specifically the starter) that he had similar problems, and there was talk of HTT multi not going lower than 4x even if you set it lower, which sound like exactly what my problem is. Only thing is, first off he has 939 board, and second he flashed BIOS and fixed it. Now, it appears Biostar’s support of the 754 board has been slack, b/c there aren’t many BIOS for it. I DID find some modded BIOSes on the Rebels Haven forum, check it out:
http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/53/57.html

i flashed to CR51M602RH , which is the modded version of the newest. idk where people are getting these BIOSes for 754 board though, all i can find on the biostar english sites is 207 http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/download/download_details.php?id=1
and 306http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/download/download_details.php?id=1

Now, i DID find the 602, and what MAY be a newer 529 on the Chinese site, but i cant read them, and i dont even know if these BIOSes are in English:
http://www.biostar.cn/supports/BIOS.asp?vID=32&SID=32&MID=26&Value=416

Another issue: so ive got the RH modded 602 BIOS, but i dont see the
"1T/2T memory Timing" option in the overlcok nav engine... can anyone confirm that that option SHOULD be there in the 754 BIOS? its not in mine... maybe the RH BIOS got messed up, or maybe the BIOS flash messed up a little?

i don’t know.. .besides, 1T/2T timings shouldn’t be keeping my FSB at 145 with the memclock at 133... im thinking it MUST be something with this BIOS i have

anyone have ANY info on 754 BIOSes, what revisions do what, what works, what doesn’t, and anyone who’s gotten above 245 with 754m what BIOS do you have?

The reason i like the RH BIOS is they removed the spash screen (which supposedly isn’t an issue in the offical 602 bios, so i might try that, but im afraid it’ll be in Chinese if i DL it form that site, and i cant find it anywhere else!)

Oh, and here’s a success sory from Pejantan on page 2 of the RH 754 bios thread with the 602RH BIOS: "with 0602 RH mod bios i could get my smpy 2500+ to FSB 422"

whats wrong with mine? thoughts? Oh, and i aplogize that this post Is so long, but im trying to be as clear and concise as possible, and i also apologize if mods here don’t like linking to other sites, but im not redirecting for people to find help elsewhere, im just trying to show people what im talking about... so, thoughts anyone?

Thanks for your time and help!
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Claw hammers and newcastles are crap. The mobo doesn't like older CPU's. Look at my venice. The other problem is your CPU rev's are prob the really crappy ones. I experionced this problem before. This mobo only likes venices and semprons. Mostly semprons. The CPU's you had problems with are FSB limited.
 
does ANYONE who has a TForce 6100-754 see "T1/T2 memory timing" option in their BIOS, and if so what version?
 
Serge84 said:
Claw hammers and newcastles are crap. The mobo doesn't like older CPU's. Look at my venice. The other problem is your CPU rev's are prob the really crappy ones. I experionced this problem before. This mobo only likes venices and semprons. Mostly semprons. The CPU's you had problems with are FSB limited.
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But if i have my CPU multi down from 10x to 6x, then FSB shouldnt be a problem, right?
 
Guys, I'm getting a socket 754 3700+ DTR cpu. I need to know if the biostar tforce will run it fine and what do I exactly need to do after I put it in.

Thanks.
 
Well, I guess I'll have to be the guinea pig. I'll let you guys know how it works out with the 3700+ DTR.

Socket 754 Biostar Tforce ordered.
 
running on $38 biostar tforce 6100 open box from newegg, came with all accerories, with a $46 dollar sempron 2800 from ebay, running 338x8 1.65v bios ~1.63 actual
 
jmag034 said:
running on $38 biostar tforce 6100 open box from newegg, came with all accerories, with a $46 dollar sempron 2800 from ebay, running 338x8 1.65v bios ~1.63 actual
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Wow, that's great to know thanks for sharing! BTW is that with stock hsf. :p
 
my $38 biostar 6100-939 came in a white box from newegg. But it runs better then my full price one so thats a plus.
 
slow_poke said:
Yes, BIOS cr51m702
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did you mean cr51m207.bst?
Also, what processor speed/core are you running? ive heard that my 3000+ clawhammer "sucks" and disable this memory option in the BIOS.


anyone ave a clawhammer on one of these, or a 3000+ clawhammer? if so, you YOU see the T1/T2 mem timing option?
 
Okay, so I broke down and ordered a Venice 3200+ and the TForce 6100-939

I cant seem to get the board past 289fsb

I'm running the 602RH BIOS from Rebels Haven

Ive set the NB->SB, SB->NB, and HT multis all to 3x

I set the RAM divider to 133 so isolate RAM from the problem

I set CPU multi to 6x to isolate CPU from the problem

Im running a Venice 3200+

Ive been able to get a good OC of 284x10 stable, but its running 1.65v and 50C load, which i think is too much voltage and heat.

Im trying to get to a much higher fsb so i can lower the multi on the CPU

Thoughts?
 
sirrealist said:
Okay, so I broke down and ordered a Venice 3200+ and the TForce 6100-939

I cant seem to get the board past 289fsb

I'm running the 602RH BIOS from Rebels Haven

Ive set the NB->SB, SB->NB, and HT multis all to 3x

I set the RAM divider to 133 so isolate RAM from the problem

I set CPU multi to 6x to isolate CPU from the problem

Im running a Venice 3200+

Ive been able to get a good OC of 284x10 stable, but its running 1.65v and 50C load, which i think is too much voltage and heat.

Im trying to get to a much higher fsb so i can lower the multi on the CPU

Thoughts?
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Have you tried lowering your multi to 9x? Overall, if this doesn't work out, 2.8ghz isn't a bad overclock. That's currently where I reside with my Opty 148 @ 1.5vcore. I can't seem to make it go much higher than 2.9, regardless of the multi, voltage, or HTT. In your situation you may have simply peaked out on your overclock with your CPU. Also, try loosening your ram timings, that may help a little. All in all I would suggest just running at the 284x10, but do some tweaking to see if you can lower your vcore.
 
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