Viewsonic VX2025wm arrived! First impressions and pics

KingPing said:
This monitor totally owns the 2005fpw....IMO
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I have a VX924, and comparing it to a few of my buds 20" and 10" dell ultra sharps, I think the 924 own them all, so I see no reason the VX2005 wouldnt
 
I(illa Bee said:
I have a VX924, and comparing it to a few of my buds 20" and 10" dell ultra sharps, I think the 924 own them all, so I see no reason the VX2005 wouldnt
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This pwnds the heck out of a 2007 as well... since they suck with banding :)
 
Got my baby from the egg yesterday. In the words of my generation, This monitor is freaking sweet!

Pixels: alive and kicking, all of them.
Banding: None observeable. I could break out a magnifying glass and probably see some or even see individual pixels but thats just crazy.
Backlight: Looks preaty even from what i can tell.
Color reproduction: Side by side compared to my old lcd its night and day diffrent.
Response time: feels faster than my old monitor. Could kill more noobs than usualy in bf2.
 
As much as I love this monitor... The FW900 just looked so much nicer in DOD Source. *sigh* LoL
 
noobtech said:
As much as I love this monitor... The FW900 just looked so much nicer in DOD Source. *sigh* LoL
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deng it . don't tell me these things. Shoot I need to get my FW900 fixed!!! I need that winDAS software hookup thing ... Do you still have your FW900 ?
 
MrkXCeL said:
deng it . don't tell me these things. Shoot I need to get my FW900 fixed!!! I need that winDAS software hookup thing ... Do you still have your FW900 ?
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I sold it like a dumb butt... LoL
 
Lawdog said:
Mine worked. ATI Catalyst drivers.
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thanks for the help, I guess I'll be purchasing this baby. just another question: is there any way you can get rid of the small black bars on top and the bottom while you're watching a DVD? In the first place, I thought widescreen was primarily because of movies(and it did come from the widescreen theater didn't it), and still having black bars makes NO sense to me. I've heard about how 16:10 is the perfect compromise between 16:9 and 4:3 but I don't really care since I don't write novels on my computer. I've heard another possibility was that some wanted to have a control panel present, which is ESTUPIDO. So anyhoo, is there any way? perhaps using powerstrip? thanks for the help.
 
Got mine today and it's much nicer than I expected. The picture (after some tweaking) is really amazing coming from a 19" CRT. Mine has no dead pixels thank god. I also had no problem getting the scaling option to work properly in the nvidia control panel running a 7800GS. I'll post pictures and a more detailed review tomorrow. :cool:
 
Please do, I look forward to it. The more info and pics I can get, the better. I'm between this and getting another 19" CRT, and I want to know if it's worth the extra $120. It's hard to justify! :p
 
tjpark1111 said:
thanks for the help, I guess I'll be purchasing this baby. just another question: is there any way you can get rid of the small black bars on top and the bottom while you're watching a DVD? In the first place, I thought widescreen was primarily because of movies(and it did come from the widescreen theater didn't it), and still having black bars makes NO sense to me. I've heard about how 16:10 is the perfect compromise between 16:9 and 4:3 but I don't really care since I don't write novels on my computer. I've heard another possibility was that some wanted to have a control panel present, which is ESTUPIDO. So anyhoo, is there any way? perhaps using powerstrip? thanks for the help.
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I use media player classic and there is a option under view "snap frame edge to outside" or something like that. It'll enlarge the picture enough to just remove the black bars.

16:10 is perfect for watching 24 or other widescreen tv shows...
 
There are CLEV smartstretch modes in PowerDVD also. I think most better dvd playing software would have something like this.
 
so with this aspect ration fix thingy we can play games that only support 4:3 resolutions, say 1078x768 or 1280x1024 (are these not 5:4?) on this monitor without black bars on side?
 
Has anyone tried hooking this monitor up with a Xbox 360 and the X360 VGA cord, for some reason it doesn't seem like it scales at all and the text/games just don't look that different at all from my 27in non-HD TV, jagged shadows and edges all over the place. I've tried the 1280x1024 modes, 1280x720, and they all look the same pretty much. No idea what's going on, maybe some other people out there with the same problem?
 
canadianpsycho said:
Can some folks help me out here? My monitor arrived yesterday, but the backlight bleeding is kinda annoying. I'm trying to figure out if I can get a better panel or not if I get a replacement...

Here's some pics, dark room with black background:

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mine looks exactly the same.......I think it may be common to this monitor :confused:
 
As promised here a few pics of my new VX2025wm. I ordered it from the Egg on Monday and it arrived yesterday. Very fast free shipping from NewEgg. It shipped with no dead pixels and set up very easily with no problems at all. The supplied driver is non-WHQL certified for those that care but it works fine and I have had zero problems with it.

Pros :

-Great color reproduction using sRGB and Adobe Gamma. You'll definitely need to tweak the settings straight out of the box though.

-The image quality is beautiful. It's bright with good color balance and very pleasing. Looking at Hi-Res photos makes me weep they're so good on this monitor.

-No ghosting in games or movies that I can see

-Games look FANTASTIC on this monitor. I never knew what I was missing using CRTs all these years. This thing is definitely a good gaming monitor. I don't miss my 19" NEC CRT at all.

-Fonts look pretty good although they don't compare to a CRT. I used the Clear Type Tuning app that is available on the web and it helped a little. All in all I'd say that fonts look good though.

Cons :

-No height adjustment on the stand. It's not a big deal to me but might be for some.

-Speakers are not worth mentioning. If you have decent speakers already this is a non-issue.

-No native image scaling. In other words any games or movies that you run full screen will stretch to fit the entire screen area and become distorted. That said, both NVIDIA and ATI have driver options to acheive image scaling so you're pretty much covered anyway. Some have had problems with NVIDIA's image scaling on GeForce 7xxx cards but I have a 7800GS and was able to scale without any problems.

All in all I have to say I am very very very pleased with this monitor. I was skeptical that a LCD could satisfy all of my gaming and movie watching needs but I am happy to say I was dead wrong. This thing gets it done with ease and even managed to exceed my CRT in a lot of respects. I would reccomend this to anyone in a heartbeat. At $349.00 shipped from NewEgg you'd be crazy not to jump on this.

If you have any specific questions you can email them to me at [email protected]

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I've had the VX2025 for a week now. I have one more week before I have the option to return.

Two questions.

- I definately have the "X" factor backlight bleed and its pretty bad compared to the shot a couple of posts up. Is there a setting to reduce this or should I return it for another?

- Can anyone thats been using their vx2025 for a few weeks gaming give their recommended display settings. I find myself continously fiddling with each game I play. I just cant seem to get a setting that works for pretty much everything. Im using a Nvidia 7900GT.

Other than those two things I extremely pleased for the price so far. Im also concerned about playing older games that do not support widescreen, but I still have my 19" crt for worse case senario so its no big deal. Also with the price of the vx922 dropping I may have both aspec ratios available ;)
 
samduhman said:
I've had the VX2025 for a week now. I have one more week before I have the option to return.

Two questions.

- I definately have the "X" factor backlight bleed and its pretty bad compared to the shot a couple of posts up. Is there a setting to reduce this or should I return it for another?

- Can anyone thats been using their vx2025 for a few weeks gaming give their recommended display settings. I find myself continously fiddling with each game I play. I just cant seem to get a setting that works for pretty much everything. Im using a Nvidia 7900GT.

Other than those two things I extremely pleased for the price so far. Im also concerned about playing older games that do not support widescreen, but I still have my 19" crt for worse case senario so its no big deal. Also with the price of the vx922 dropping I may have both aspec ratios available ;)
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Seems like it would just be better for your to return it.
 
samduhman said:
I've had the VX2025 for a week now. I have one more week before I have the option to return.

Two questions.

- I definately have the "X" factor backlight bleed and its pretty bad compared to the shot a couple of posts up. Is there a setting to reduce this or should I return it for another?

- Can anyone thats been using their vx2025 for a few weeks gaming give their recommended display settings. I find myself continously fiddling with each game I play. I just cant seem to get a setting that works for pretty much everything. Im using a Nvidia 7900GT.

Other than those two things I extremely pleased for the price so far. Im also concerned about playing older games that do not support widescreen, but I still have my 19" crt for worse case senario so its no big deal. Also with the price of the vx922 dropping I may have both aspec ratios available ;)
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This "X" backlight bleed may not actually be backlight bleed, but a "wash effect" of the LCD being viewed from the center. Notice that moving your head to the side causes the effect to disappear on that side, and become very pronounced on the opposite side. Mine actually looks minimal when I take a picture in the dark, but looks bad if I take a picture with the lights on. The effect is still there even if you turn the brightness and contrast all the way down.

I just keep the color settings at sRGB, and don't touch anything in the nVidia control panel. Works for me.
 
samduhman said:
I've had the VX2025 for a week now. I have one more week before I have the option to return.

Two questions.

- I definately have the "X" factor backlight bleed and its pretty bad compared to the shot a couple of posts up. Is there a setting to reduce this or should I return it for another?

- Can anyone thats been using their vx2025 for a few weeks gaming give their recommended display settings. I find myself continously fiddling with each game I play. I just cant seem to get a setting that works for pretty much everything. Im using a Nvidia 7900GT.

Other than those two things I extremely pleased for the price so far. Im also concerned about playing older games that do not support widescreen, but I still have my 19" crt for worse case senario so its no big deal. Also with the price of the vx922 dropping I may have both aspec ratios available ;)
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It due to the panels viewing angle that causes the X's in the corner. I found this on mine as well and if you shift your head left or right, it mostly disappears. Its not a panel flaw or backlight bleeding, its just traits of the LCD itself. Theres nothing you can do about sans returning the unit for a different model if it bothers you that much.
 
Oh you guys are right... even for me. It's not the backlight bleeding... it's like a reflection on the screen. Pretty neat if you ask me! :)
 
I've been eyeing on this monitor for so long now but still haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet due to its scaling issue. I'm running on a 7900gt and I believe native scaling is an essential feature any WS LCD must have. It does not make much sense to buy a brand new monitor but end up locking ourselves to WS content only while FS is still very popular. I've been reading up on this thread and many people said this monitor cannot scale properly, while a few recently claimed it can be done through video card driver. Could anyone please clear this issue once and for all if this monitor actually scale or display 4:3 content properly without stretching, whether it's native scaling or done via nvidia/ati driver (particularly nvidia 7xxx series). I'd really appreciate if someone can take pics of 4:3 content being displayed on this monitor. I just hope it can be done, otherwise I guess I'd have to go for Samsung 215TW which is more expensive :(
 
d][g][tal said:
I've been eyeing on this monitor for so long now but still haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet due to its scaling issue. I'm running on a 7900gt and I believe native scaling is an essential feature any WS LCD must have. It does not make much sense to buy a brand new monitor but end up locking ourselves to WS content only while FS is still very popular. I've been reading up on this thread and many people said this monitor cannot scale properly, while a few recently claimed it can be done through video card driver. Could anyone please clear this issue once and for all if this monitor actually scale or display 4:3 content properly without stretching, whether it's native scaling or done via nvidia/ati driver (particularly nvidia 7xxx series). I'd really appreciate if someone can take pics of 4:3 content being displayed on this monitor. I just hope it can be done, otherwise I guess I'd have to go for Samsung 215TW which is more expensive :(
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yeah, thats what I need to know too. If scaling is so so, I think Ill keep the vx922 that will be becoming tomorrow.
 
Scales fine for me using the driver control panel but I'm running a nvidia 6600GT currently. I can't comment on the 7800 and 7900 series.
 
maybe there should be a seperate thread just talking about scaling on this lcd, cause this thread is too huge.
 
d][g][tal said:
I've been eyeing on this monitor for so long now but still haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet due to its scaling issue. I'm running on a 7900gt and I believe native scaling is an essential feature any WS LCD must have. It does not make much sense to buy a brand new monitor but end up locking ourselves to WS content only while FS is still very popular. I've been reading up on this thread and many people said this monitor cannot scale properly, while a few recently claimed it can be done through video card driver. Could anyone please clear this issue once and for all if this monitor actually scale or display 4:3 content properly without stretching, whether it's native scaling or done via nvidia/ati driver (particularly nvidia 7xxx series). I'd really appreciate if someone can take pics of 4:3 content being displayed on this monitor. I just hope it can be done, otherwise I guess I'd have to go for Samsung 215TW which is more expensive :(
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The monitor was able to do 4:3 scaling (centered or fixed ratio) with an old 6800 Ultra AGP.
It was NOT able to do it with my new eVGA 7900 GTX - it would say "Out of Range".
Many other people are reporting the same issue.
Mine will ONLY do "monitor scaling" which means 4:3 resolutions will be stretched.

The monitor itself has no capabilty to force 4:3 scaling (centered or fixed aspect ratio), that has to be done through the display drivers.
 
I've had this monitor for about a week and have noticed that it has the x pattern backlight bleed. However, what is odd is that I don't notice the pattern while my computer is booting up, only after it gets into windows does it show up. Anyone else notice this, and any idea why this happens?
 
mine has very bad back light bleeding. i can almost see the whole frikin tube.

very bright.

but just turn town the brightness and it should help
 
Lucky J said:
I've had this monitor for about a week and have noticed that it has the x pattern backlight bleed. However, what is odd is that I don't notice the pattern while my computer is booting up, only after it gets into windows does it show up. Anyone else notice this, and any idea why this happens?
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That's because the light isn't showing at those points... it's completely off as if it were turned off.
 
Running under Ubuntu Linux 5.10, with the latest Nvidia drivers on a 6600GT AGP card, connected via DVI, I have no problems with scaling, after enabling the 'scaled' option under the 'Flatpanel scaling' portion of the nvidia-settings program.

QuakeIII, Enemy Territory both are scaled properly when theey are set to resolution of 1280x1024..and Videos that are not widescreen are scaled properly in Totem and gxine (I do not know if this is the video card drivers or the programs themselves doing the scaling however)

I am still working on setting up my home network and computers, then I will post pics of the monitor as best I can :D
 
noobtech said:
That's because the light isn't showing at those points... it's completely off as if it were turned off.
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Okay I'm not that stupid...hahaha. The screen is displaying all the system info during post at this point so the lights have to be on.
 
Ya you guys are right. The "X" isnt there all the time. Just fired of a dvd and made my display black in display properties and no "X". So backlight bleed isnt an issue.

So the game scaling issue with the newer nvidia cards. I have an evga 7900GT co/so. Someone name an popular older title and I'll reload it to see what happens.
 
samduhman said:
Ya you guys are right. The "X" isnt there all the time. Just fired of a dvd and made my display black in display properties and no "X". So backlight bleed isnt an issue.

So the game scaling issue with the newer nvidia cards. I have an evga 7900GT co/so. Someone name an popular older title and I'll reload it to see what happens.
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You don't need an older game title to test the scaling issue.

Just go into the nvidia control panel and find the "Digital Flat Panel Settings". It should be under the "nView Display Settings" or something like that. Just hunt for it - you'll find it.

You will see 4 options:
* Display adapter scaling
* Centered output
* Moinitor scaling
* Fixed aspect ration scaling

Select "centered output" (or "Fixed aspext ration scaling").

Just doing that will produce "Out of Range" on my monitor.

If that still works, change your desktop resolition to say 1024x768.

That should either center it or do fixed aspect ratio depending on what you selected. I can't even get that far due to the previous "Out of Range" issue.
 
well i read through and decided to bite the bullet hopefully it will be as good as i anticipate.
 
For those of you getting the out of range error when trying to force aspect ratio scaling....what refresh rate are you running? 75hz or 60hz

If your trying with 75....try 60. I've heard 75 can cause issuse and in theory there should be no visible difference. I have really picky eyes and have never noticed a difference on any of the LCDs I've used.
 
I've looked through the whole long ass thread and have seen mixed opinions on the fixed aspect ratio on ATI cards. I REALLY want to get this monitor but i dont want streched images on my older games that i play. I own a X800XL btw, so if anyone owns one of these with an ati card please let me know!
 
Does anyone here have a VD-Z3 VGA transcoder hooked up to there VX2025wm for the Xbox 360? It definitely fixes the color, but I am having some trouble with certain games. Just curious if it produces the same results for others. Thanks.
 
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