Anyone else think Halo is overhyped?

Susquehannock said:
Any PC gamer knows that Halo is nothing that great? You're funny.
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Read the rest of the comments here, most people agree it wasn't that great...
 
Halo is overhyped
MGS is overhyped
Hell I think Final Fantasy games are far overhyped...


EVERYTHING IS OVERHYPED

That doesn't mean it is a bad game, and it also doesn't mean that you should start bad mouthing the developers or discounting the next game in the series. How about for once you ignore the hype, if you dont particularly enjoy the game, then fine dont play it. You dont need to spend your time talking down to people who do enjoy the game, or complaining that game X recieves far too much praise.

I cant stand most of the final fantasy games. Occasionally the story draws me in enough where I can tredge through, but most of the time the slow play drowns me to sleep in boredom. Does that mean I immediately start bad mouthing square and everyone that plays the game? No. I understand why people like the game, and I understand the appeal of the game even if the appeal is not there for me.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one (and to extend the quote further...nobody cares about yours).
 
Doward said:
A couple of points I like about Halo.

You don't tote around a fucking WEAPONS CACHE WITH YOU. You have 1 gun in your hands, and you are able to holster another.

I like that EVERY enemy drops their weapons. Nothing as annoying as killing someone that's been firing at you, and the bad guy takes that weapon to hell with him.

MELEE ATTACK WITH ANY WEAPON.

Dual wielding single handed weapons.

As for the story, if you honestly dream up weirder shit than a COALITION of aliens with religious reverence to an ancient race (Forerunners) and their artifacts, come up against Humanity, who has figured out that the Forerunners actually have at least once wiped out ALL SENTIENT LIFE in the galaxy, and that this coalition of aliens is trying to fucking ACTIVATE THE GALAXY DESTROYING WEAPONRY THINKING IT IS A PATH TO HEAVEN...

then you need heavier doses of your meds, man. The story has a lot of depth, if you bother to look into it.
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I have played games with "weirder shit" and greatly deeper stories... they are called the Marathon Trilogy, and also happen to have been made by Bungie. ;) If you are interested, there is a giant site dedicated to making sense out of it at http://marathon.bungie.org/Story/.
 
CodeX said:
Read the rest of the comments here, most people agree it wasn't that great...
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You are right. My mistake. Silly of me to question whether or not the posters in this thread
have a 100% lock on what is "great". :p :D

Seriously though, every thread on Halo always gets the same results. Either you love it or you hate it.

Like Erasmus354 said, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink but your own.

If you don't like Halo, don't play it. Just don't expect everyone to share your views regarding the game.
 
I enjoyed playing it with a buddy of mine, but god the levels were repetive. I remember thinking I walked down the same hallway 50 times.
 
CodeX said:
Halo did for consoles what HL1 and UT did for PC's, only like 10 years later...

Any PC gamer knows that Halo is nothing that great, on the PC it is a subpar FPS, and that is all. Non PC gamers don't know any better, since it was one of the first console FPS's
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Yes, that is true, but one could also say this:

Halo did to consoles what Goldeneye already did almost 5 years before...but better...
 
I liked Mace griffin bounty hunter more than Halo.

You know what I was just thinking. I'd probably hail Halo as the best console FPS since goldeneye if the later levels weren't 100% same room after same room, floor after floor, whatever repetative crap it was. I enjoyed everything else and I could certainly swallow my pride and play with a controller if the levels were interesting. Like the beach level that was fucking fun as hell. (halo 1). Oh and If the movement weren't so slow and low gravity.
 
CodeX said:
Read the rest of the comments here, most people agree it wasn't that great...
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Most people who took the time to post in a thread about halo being overhyped think its overhyped? Im shocked. Maybe the rest of us are just sick of hearing people whine about this. Does it really adversely affect you that much? This thread is basically flamebait.
 
Look, it's very simple. If you love it, you love it. If you liked it, you liked it. If you hated it, you hated it. Overhyped or not, it doesn't make one bit of difference to you unless you fall for the marketing and end up dissapointed.

I've never understood why people get so heated about a game they'll likely never play, which affects them in no way. Same goes for consoles. Take the "Nintendo is for kiddies" comments - Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you need to flame everyone over to your point of view.

You buy what you like, I'll buy what I like. We'll all be happy. :D
 
halo was a fantastic game imo

but it really comes down to point of view.. i gotta say MP halo PC is insanely fun
 
Doward said:
As for the story, if you honestly dream up weirder shit than a COALITION of aliens with religious reverence to an ancient race (Forerunners) and their artifacts, come up against Humanity, who has figured out that the Forerunners actually have at least once wiped out ALL SENTIENT LIFE in the galaxy, and that this coalition of aliens is trying to fucking ACTIVATE THE GALAXY DESTROYING WEAPONRY THINKING IT IS A PATH TO HEAVEN...

then you need heavier doses of your meds, man. The story has a lot of depth, if you bother to look into it.
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I've seen better storys come out of a single episode of Star Trek.
 
Psychotext said:
For sure overhyped. But I'd still actually rate it as one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played (Both 1 and 2). I loved the story, the score was just top notch and I just got drawn in. I'm really glad that it's not going to be around until 2007. MS could have forced them to pull it out for the PS3 launch, and no doubt that would have ruined it. Of course, it's going to be under a huge amount of pressure for the final game anyway... I would not like to be in that team at bungie.

Would I have liked it so much if I was a twitch-click hyper FPS junky? Probably not, as it's not in the least bit hardcore. But then those days are gone for me cos I'm getting old. ;)
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Ditto.

My take on it is this: Was Halo a fun game to play? Absolutely. Is it the best thing since sliced bread? For the PC, no. For consoles, well, that's another story.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Most people who took the time to post in a thread about halo being overhyped think its overhyped? Im shocked. Maybe the rest of us are just sick of hearing people whine about this. Does it really adversely affect you that much? This thread is basically flamebait.
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^^^ - well said :D
 
Killdozer said:
Yes, that is true, but one could also say this:

Halo did to consoles what Goldeneye already did almost 5 years before...but better...
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Except goldeneye didn't have melee attacks, co-op, or vehicles.

It seems to PC gamers will hate halo because console people finally got a decent multi-player fps to steal the thunder from oneshot kill games such as UT. Then you have the people that hate X because X is very popular -- you know, the elitist indy kids (zomg, you've never listened to such-and-such underground band? You're such a conformist!).

Are there better stories in games? Sure, but how many of them have matching and balanced gameplay and graphics? How many of them have graphics/gameplay that competes with today's games? FEAR had a great story and great graphics, the multiplayer was a flop. HL2 had great story and graphics, the multiplayer was rather sub-par. BF2 has great multiplayer, but very little single player and it's a buggy game. The list goes on. The thing that made Halo1 such a good game was that it had great graphics (for the system it was created for), great multiplayer (both adverserial and co-op), in-depth story, and balanced gameplay. There are very very few games to have accomplished this -- especially on a console.
 
tys90 said:
I really really liked the story/gameplay in Halo 1....both dropped off in Halo 2 IMO. I guess gameplay changes had their ups and downs when compared to 1, some things weren't as good, some things were nice additions. For those reasons, I think Halo 2 was overhyped, Halo 1 matched the hype I guess you could say. It's hard for a sequel to not be overhyped though.
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No. The Halo 2 story tells a lot more than you think what with the Arbiter missions and whatnot. I wouldn't say it's a good part of the sotry, but every story has that slow part in the middle of it.
 
What difference does it make ifit's a PC game or console? HALO is one ofthe best games period. I had a nXBOX and it wasn't the best selling system but it was almost a gimme if you had an XBOX you HAD HALO. I haven'tplayed HALO in months and last night if it wasn't for the fact I was soooo tired I wouldv've played another level... CO-OP is great!

One of the best games ever and I still to this day like it. Had it since day one. HALO 2 on the other hand... Played a few times and then sold. Just didn't feel the same. Hopefully 3 is a lot more like 1 than 2

I like both type of games PC and console. It's so stupid to even bash them. They both have there ups and downs. HALO NOT overhyped. HALO 2 big yes.... 3? Trailer looked bad. The first trailer of HALO 2 was better... but then again the end product IMO wasn't as impressive and I thought the storyline was ho hum.
 
Well, compared to other games it was over hyped. It got a lot of bashing on PC because it was a resource hog, and frankly wasn't any better than anything else already out. Not a bad game, but just not exceptional either. So it's kind of anti-hyped on PC, not because it's bad, but because it just not as good as Xbox fans build it up to be. If it hadn't had all the hype on the console, it would just have been another FPS, and blended in with the crowd. But it was the first half way decent modern shooter to make it to consoles so it made it big there. PC users are just kinda "been there done that".
 
Halo's just average. I mean, they fucking made you run backwards through a level that you already did in the first one. It's still nothing more to me than a 7/10 FPS with a huuuge marketing juggernaut behind it. Only thing I'd look forward too in Halo 3 will be some nice-ish graphics...might actually touch several of the newer FPSs on the PC this time! Seeing as I don't own a 360 though, I'll wait for them to port it to PC for their next OS :rolleyes:
 
Presto88 said:
Please tell me that I'm not the only one who thinks halo is a standard shooter?

flame away if you want but it wont affect my opinion
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I completely agree its overhyped. I played the first one all the way through and thought it was fun, but nothing special. I felt compelled to buy the 2nd one because it was a "must have". I played SP for about 10 minutes and the MP for about 4 hours. Just doesnt do it for me. But i will still feel compelled again to buy Halo 3...even tho it will probably collect dust on my shelf.
 
the first halo + gamespy with a few friends was a lot of fun. completely NOT overhyped.

-vehicles were awesome and not imbalanced.
-rocket launcher was sweet (i always loved how you could actually see the rocket coming towards you and make you clutch)
-sniping was ok not imbalanced.
-pretty much the only weapon that was imbalanced was that fucking pistol, but i was ok with it because you couldnt spray you had to aim and tap.
-at the time the graphics were pretty sweet
-overshield and invisibility were pretty cool
-i loved finding snipers and killing them with a melee 1 hit.
-there were a quite a few bugs in the game but were not simple and very fun to pull off in a game.
-i loved that you couldnt kill vehicles so they didnt respawn, you could jack the other team and theyd have to walk always.
-sticky grenades were fucking awesome and funny. if you were quick enough you could even shake them off or rub them off against a wall.

if you had a bunch of friends over with about 4 xboxs and 4 tvs.. halo was the game to play. only time you could ever have that much fun was at a lan center with some PC game..console games just didnt have that kind of MP fun for shooters. if you liked socom better, you gotta remember it wasnt out at that time.

i havent played halo 2.

i dont give a crap about grammar, im not at work.
 
Kahnvex said:
No more overhyped than your standard big-name PC FPS sequels of today and yesteryear. Doom 3, Quake 4, FEAR, Half Life 2. All of those were genuinely overhyped as well, but that doesn't stop them from being special and fun in their own unique ways.

So yes, Halo is overhyped, but the only people who see that as a negative thing are the folks who want to find something to nitpick, or who generally have an agenda about Console shooters, or the sales numbers Halo put up as a franchise. Those 2 comments usually go hand in hand with threads like these.

Complaining about something being overhyped, especially in an industry like this where the entire press is plugged in 24/7 and reports every tidbits of news, is like riding a merry-go-round.
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Completely agree here.

On top of that, most of the people who are complaining didn't play it when it first came out back in 2001. They all went back and judged a game from 2001 with a 2003+ perspective and that just doesn't end well with most FPS titles (Even when they're excellent).

It's sad that PC elitists actually threatened as if a good FPS on consoles is going to hurt them personally.

Halo was rarely touted as "revolutionary" by most reviewers. "Evolutionary" was used often and it is an apt description; Halo took a lot of things that already existed and combined them seamlessly.
 
K600 said:
Completely agree here.

On top of that, most of the people who are complaining didn't play it when it first came out back in 2001. They all went back and judged a game from 2001 with a 2003+ perspective and that just doesn't end well with most FPS titles (Even when they're excellent).

It's sad that PC elitists actually threatened as if a good FPS on consoles is going to hurt them personally.

Halo was rarely touted as "revolutionary" by most reviewers. "Evolutionary" was used often and it is an apt description; Halo took a lot of things that already existed and combined them seamlessly.
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Hey I played halo in 2004 and enjoyed it quite a bit (on the pc), although it was the first FPS since I bought my now old computer. (XP3200, 1GB, 6800GT)

I would of played threw Halo 2 if it came out for pc but it hasn't and I don't feel like buying an xbox to play it.
 
sculelos said:
Hey I played halo in 2004 and enjoyed it quite a bit (on the pc), although it was the first FPS since I bought my now old computer. (XP3200, 1GB, 6800GT)

I would of played threw Halo 2 if it came out for pc but it hasn't and I don't feel like buying an xbox to play it.
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I also picked up halo PC and enjoyed it in 2004. Overhype or not, its a good game. Never played Halo 2 (no xbox, just PS2), but now that I have an xbox360 I will probably check out halo 2 and ninja gaiden/black. BTW xbox360 is an awesome system.
 
I think any shooter, where you are aiming with a stick, is overhyped.
 
tfbit said:
I think any shooter, where you are aiming with a stick, is overhyped.
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This is exactly why this thread is pointless. Pc gamers dont care about the game, they only care thats its basically a console shooter.
 
Halo was the flagship game for the Xbox, and it had a long development that switched platforms (even was briefly a Mac title) a few times until Microsoft acquired Bungie. Microsoft said "Make this game look l33t for our console" and Bungie said "ok".

So they made it, and it was pretty nifty. It managed to have outdoor environments and vehicles for multiplayer which, to console gamers, obviously fucking blew their minds, and some of them still haven't recovered.

PC gamers were like "ok lets see what all this is about" and were not impressed by the repetative level design which was so bad that it really overshadowed the good parts of the game. And the vehicles? Meh Tribes did it better :/

So in summation as a console FPS the original Halo gets like a 9.5/10 because for consoles, it was obviously a cut way above the rest. For PC it gets like 7.5/10. Decent story, some pretty nice outdoor levels and good enemy AI, but horribly designed indoor portions that drag on and on and on, plus nothing really that innovative in the multiplayer.

Best console fps ever? Probably. The bar wasn't set very high there, though ;)

ZOMG BEST GAEM EVAR? Uhhhh, no.

And thus ends my response to the flamebait :D
 
jubei said:
Except goldeneye didn't have melee attacks,
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Not entirely true. Didn't you ever play multiplayer and change the weapons for the match to, "Slappers Only?" Granted that it wasn't very effective, but was amusing for a few seconds. :D

Mr.Dearthian
 
prtzlboy said:
Halo was the flagship game for the Xbox, and it had a long development that switched platforms (even was briefly a Mac title) a few times until Microsoft acquired Bungie. Microsoft said "Make this game look l33t for our console" and Bungie said "ok".

So they made it, and it was pretty nifty. It managed to have outdoor environments and vehicles for multiplayer which, to console gamers, obviously fucking blew their minds, and some of them still haven't recovered.

PC gamers were like "ok lets see what all this is about" and were not impressed by the repetative level design which was so bad that it really overshadowed the good parts of the game. And the vehicles? Meh Tribes did it better :/

So in summation as a console FPS the original Halo gets like a 9.5/10 because for consoles, it was obviously a cut way above the rest. For PC it gets like 7.5/10. Decent story, some pretty nice outdoor levels and good enemy AI, but horribly designed indoor portions that drag on and on and on, plus nothing really that innovative in the multiplayer.

Best console fps ever? Probably. The bar wasn't set very high there, though ;)

ZOMG BEST GAEM EVAR? Uhhhh, no.

And thus ends my response to the flamebait :D
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Halo actually started out in development for the Mac (Bungie was a Mac-only studio for a number of years), and was originally going to be Mac-only... which is why so many Mac owners attempted suicide when they got bought out. :p It wasn't exactly a flagship title, until Microsoft realized that Halo's popularity was one of the few things keeping the Xbox afloat.

The story was alright, but the multiplayer was well-balanced, and the deliberately slower pace of it actually added an element of strategy that many FPS games don't have. Choosing only two weapons out of a wide variety meant choosing a strategy. Watching the radar to hunt down your opponents (or give you just a split-second warning before you became roadkill) was an interesting dimension.

Veering a bit off-topic here... Tribes did a whole lot of things right. :D Did you see the Torque engine "terrain test" videos leaked by Garage games? I can't describe how desperately I want them to make a new Tribes game.
 
What most PC games can't seem to get over is that the controller is less accurate and slower than a mouse. This IS ture. Console gamers won't deny it (if they do, then just disregard everything else they say :D ). But they need to realize that it takes just as much skill to be good at Halo on the xbox as it does to be good at any other standard PC shooter. Some of the most fun I've had with a shooter was playing Halo over gamespy/xbox connect with a friend right next to me. It's much easier to do that than have a LAN with PC games.

All the quarks in the multiplayer just added to the fun as in "Woah, how did he do that?" type of way.

Halo is a good game, that's why people played it. It just may not be your game.

Also, I thought Halo was much better than Halo2, but that's another story.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
This is exactly why this thread is pointless. Pc gamers dont care about the game, they only care thats its basically a console shooter.
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A stick, man, a stick!
 
I don't think that Halo or Halo2 were great games, but they were good console games for sure.

I AM looking forward to the 360 Halo3 game though. More than I thought I would.
 
No one can think the game is over-hyped... it IS overhyped. The second one especially...

I really don't enjoy the game single-player because it's pretty repetitve and I just don't ever play Xbox (more of a PC gamer).. but playing this with 4+ people is pretty damn fun.
 
Ive said this many times and i will say it again, I have had access to all FPS games ever, having a high end pc for almost all of them, and the Halo series are stil the best FPS games, bar none, on any platform.
 
mr.dearthian said:
Not entirely true. Didn't you ever play multiplayer and change the weapons for the match to, "Slappers Only?" Granted that it wasn't very effective, but was amusing for a few seconds. :D

Mr.Dearthian
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Not with every weapon. Like I said, some games had some things halo has, but none of them had it all. Name one game besides Halo that had good co-op, good story, good graphics, and good/balanced multi-player -- without the use of mods. There are none. That is why Halo 1 is seen as a great game. It's not the best in every category, but it is a complete game.
 
Halo SP was pretty sweet until half way through you had to deal with a constant barrage of the same type of enemies and you had to back-track through the game. What you got was half of a game you had to play through twice with different enemies.

Multiplayer is what made Halo what it is. The single player just wasn't that great.
 
I missed a lot of the hype, gaming wasn't something I was into at the time, but when I finally got around to playing it on my computer a few months ago, I found it to be a solid game, and fun, not to mention the cool universe/game story.
 
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