Who Is Going To Jump Om AM2?

Budwise said:
Dang man! Still on socket A and considering waiting til after AM2 to upgrade? I think its time to end the wait... lol
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Why?

I still use Socket A and am satisfied with its performance. Life isn't just about getting 5 more fps on the latest videogame.
 
needmorecarnitine said:
Why?

I still use Socket A and am satisfied with its performance. Life isn't just about getting 5 more fps on the latest videogame.
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Yeah, but having the game look and play a whole lot better so the free time you spend with them is far more enjoyable helps things if you ask me :).
 
needmorecarnitine said:
Why?

I still use Socket A and am satisfied with its performance. Life isn't just about getting 5 more fps on the latest videogame.
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say it with me now "SMP". you're correct there is a lot more to life than 5 more uber fps in BF2 however the new generation of cpu's give you awhole lot more than 5 fps. you'd be lucky to play a game and burn a cd with a barton core cpu let alone burn a cd and do much of anything else. face it, socket A has long since been long in the tooth.

oh and it might be only like 5 extra fps if you were burning a dvd in the background while norton was running its weekly virus check and you were playing WoW. maybe, but probably more.
 
DemonDiablo said:
say it with me now "SMP". you're correct there is a lot more to life than 5 more uber fps in BF2 however the new generation of cpu's give you awhole lot more than 5 fps. you'd be lucky to play a game and burn a cd with a barton core cpu let alone burn a cd and do much of anything else. face it, socket A has long since been long in the tooth.
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For someone who mutltitasks a lot that is a big plus. But that would be like less than 5% of the windows home computer users (imo). Most of my computer use is browsing the internet. Gaming only makes up about 5~10% of my computer time and I would guess that my use is similar to most home users. I will burn a couple of dvds a year at most

Socket A may be long in the tooth but most computer users would find my machine fine for their use.
 
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hmm new ram, new cpu and new motherboard for what? (assuming you already have a a64 that is).

Somehow the $800cdn to get the same or lower performance(based on prerelease benchys) just doesnt sound too appealing. I guess I could just be picky :p
 
^^^ also now people are confirming Conroe is working in i865 intel chipsets - you dont need to buy anything but a CPU...........

I just dont see ANY reason to buy AM2 as soon as it comes out until 2007 and AMD comes out with a new architecture K8L or what ever it

Otherwise keep your 939 / 754 until then.
 
needmorecarnitine said:
Socket A may be long in the tooth but most computer users would find my machine fine for their use.
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and without a doubt thats fine for "most users" but this is the hard forums friend! "most users" need not apply.
 
i will be using 939 until i really really need to have an upgrade, and then i will prolly just upgrade to a operteron sometime lol, 3500+ is just fine
 
depends on the prices and if current cpus drop in price...ive had this system for "only" a year and i know some people upgrade twice a year, but i like to make my systems last as long as possible..so i might move to dual core soon, but i probably wont go for AM2 since ill need a new mb, cpu, and ram...so X2 or opty 165 for me :p
 
I'll probably snag me one of the AM2 Semprons to compare it with the one i have now. Believe it or not, this socket change has me pretty excited.
 
vanilla_guerilla said:
who is going to be an early adopter, and why? i have been reading that it wont be worth it at the beginning unless you are upgrading from socket "a" or an early s754. the price for the am2 version of the 3800 x2 is just a wee bit higher than the s939. ddr2 ram is cheaper than ddr usually, and the mainboards should cost around the same. so if you can sell your cpu and ram for decent prices, it should be a pretty painless upgrade. but is there any actual performance gains to be picked up now? or only after 65nm?
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Nichs, Nine, Notta, no way Josie and forgataboutit! When Conroe ships, my 3500+ will no longer be my Number one system LOL!
 
I don't need bragging right. My Opteron 165 should be more than adequate through 2007 and maybe '08.
 
CrimandEvil said:
I'm going from socket A to either AM2 or s939, maybe Conroe if they're priced right.
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QFT. It's been almost 3 years since I bought my S754 system. I'm holding out as long as I can- January 2007 if all goes well. Maybe it's AM2, Maybe it's Conroe. I think it' slikely NOT 939, but it will be dual core...

My HDD's are new(er) so they will not be a factor. I keep my old ones around as spares. Hard to think that I have a pair of idel 60GB drives on a shelf, when my work PC has a 30 GB drive in it. Sure I'd like to repalce the video card today, but It's OK for the games I play (flight sims). Also need the wife's buy-inand we bult a Home theater last Summer :) 100" of goodness with an awesome sound system. One day I'll hook up my PC to the PJ and game. That might just blow my mind! Too bad it's 720P....
 
greyt_Autumn said:
Too bad it's 720P....
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Considering that 1080i blows for anything but video and 1080p (the next best thing since 720p) isn't really 1080p (it's upsampled to that res) rest asured your current 720p display isn't all that "bad" infact at that res it's best overall when connected to a PC.
 
HDBox2d1 said:
Agreed, getting a S939 4800+
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I think he meant he is gonna get a X2 socket AM2 processor, not a 939 X2.
I could be wrong.

I am probably gonna get a X2 AM2 4400+ or better.
 
If I upgrade any time soon it will be to the new intel chips due out any time now. I have been a amd guy for a good while now yet have no problem going back to intel if they offer a nicer package. plus intel is an american company, so win win for me!
 
i dont know if/when i will go to am2, maybe with the die shrink, maybe after latencies come down on ddr2, maybe in a couple revs. but i cant make a blanket statement about going to intel until people actually can buy and use them in real world apps. until then, everything else is just bullshit and marketing. if i can get a 20% performance increase (what intel and intel !!!!!!s and wannabe intel !!!!!!s claim) for a comparable price, i will jump right on it. these companies are only as good as their last cpu as far as i am concerned. i will be loyal to whichever has the best cpu. but as i understand, conroe is only single core for now. i am well used to dual core having switched at the end of last summer.
 
vanilla_guerilla said:
i will be loyal to whichever has the best cpu.
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While I believe I can agree with the sentiment of simply buying whichever chip proves superior, I was just wondering how doing so could possibly be construed to be "loyal" to anything. Loyalty implies to me that you plan to use to either AMD or Intel regardless of which "next best thing" actually proves to be the superior. :p
In any case, I will probably end up upgrading to a dual core Opty from my current Barton Mobile since they seem fairly well proven solid at this point rather than waiting for the release and subsequent five re-revisions to correct the initial release of the new chips. :D
 
I would rather be reserved about it and watch the pirces, as well as benchmarks, and determine what I would want to get then.
 
for those upgrading, hook me up with ur old DFI board :) pref Ultra-D or better but gotta be <$100

keep me in mind!!!
 
Za_Goobinator said:
If conroe performs way past any AMD chip but costs $1500 per chip, I will go AMD. But if conroe performs way past any AMD chip for the same price then I'll go with Intel :p .
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That won't happen even the Extreme Edition is going to be only 1000US or so. And there is always the mainstream editions of the processor that sell for reasonable prices.
 
Duron 800@ 1000Ghz KT133a 1Gig of SDRAM (MSI 6330) (DX 8.1 ATI)

Tbread 2700+ @ 2.3Ghz Nforce2 Ultra MCP-T DDR400 (Shuttle SN45G v1.1) (DX 9.0 ATI)

Next Machine:
AM2 AMD64 3200< DDR2, PCI-E DX10 ATi Video
 
vanilla_guerilla said:
i dont know if/when i will go to am2, maybe with the die shrink, maybe after latencies come down on ddr2, maybe in a couple revs. but i cant make a blanket statement about going to intel until people actually can buy and use them in real world apps. until then, everything else is just bullshit and marketing. if i can get a 20% performance increase (what intel and intel !!!!!!s and wannabe intel !!!!!!s claim) for a comparable price, i will jump right on it. these companies are only as good as their last cpu as far as i am concerned. i will be loyal to whichever has the best cpu. but as i understand, conroe is only single core for now. i am well used to dual core having switched at the end of last summer.
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you have much more to read up on conroe if you think its only a single core cpu before you start throwing around the term !!!!!! left and right.
 
DemonDiablo said:
you have much more to read up on conroe if you think its only a single core cpu before you start throwing around the term !!!!!! left and right.
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probably cause it's no+core = conroe instead of being called core duo :p :D
 
conroe prices look good for me. just need to compare prices with current prices and the performance increase from 165 to conroe. and overclockability.

like if the cheaper ones are 200-250 and perform the same as a stock 165 and also overclock GREAT than the choice is clear. but if not im fine for a while.
 
tvdang7 said:
conroe prices look good for me. just need to compare prices with current prices and the performance increase from 165 to conroe. and overclockability.

like if the cheaper ones are 200-250 and perform the same as a stock 165 and also overclock GREAT than the choice is clear. but if not im fine for a while.
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i dont see why you would bother "upgrading" (i use this word loosly in your situation) form an oc'ed 165. while the conroe is going to probably end up being a very good chip, your 165 is by no means going to become a slouch. i doubt anything is going to be coming along in the next year or two that is going to make you feel like your 165 is inadequate.
 
I just did the whole Mobo, RAM, CPU change a few month back. I jumped to a 3700+ from my 1GHz AMD.

I coudn't change again so soon, I haven't even reached the limit of my system yet. The only thing I plan on upgrading soon would be my video card. I have a 9800pro right now and its artifacting. Other than that, the only thing I would upgrade soon would be My HDD's. All I would like to do with those is upgarde to SATA's on RAID 0.
 
So uh...my question to those of you that are actually getting an AM2 setup...why? To me, it seems just like buying an Intel 4-6 months ago. AM2 is inferior in every single regard to its Conroe opponent. The only advantage AMD has is that it will be releasing AM2 in 2 weeks, while we'll have to wait 2 months for Conroe. In my opinion, it's REALLY not worth jumping on AM2...2 weeks for a DDR2 makeover, or 2 months for a ~25% increase in performance.
 
I dont want to pay loads of money for Conroe or Intel for that matter, I've always used AMD, always have liked them. They are better for gaming by far, I will never buy an Intel chip.
 
emp7re said:
I dont want to pay loads of money for Conroe or Intel for that matter, I've always used AMD, always have liked them. They are better for gaming by far, I will never buy an Intel chip.
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word. I feel you. The new Intel chip is tempting, but I think I will stay with AMD for now, unless AMD just completely falls off the world, which isnt going to happen anyways.

I am thinking of switching the AM2 within a month here.
 
I bet it won't be long until AMD has a better answer than conroe. And, I'm not talking the AM2. I'm talking like, s939 or s754. They need something to answer to conroe while they perfet the 65nm and the AM2.

Besides, with the semi-recent s939 release, people are still hooked on their already new systems. It is going to be hard to get people to make the jump.
 
I'm planning on jumping on AM2 for a variety of reasons:

1) I'm sick of having an outdated, budget system. My 2500+ Barton is a great OC'er .... except the XP 3200+ it "comes close to" doesn't even show up on the charts any more. I'm gonna buy into the moment for once, I don't care if S939 is going to save me money.

2) I'll be doing a bunch of LAN parties this summer, and I don't want to wait for half the summer to compare what chip I could possibly get for the last two months

3) I don't want to buy from Intel while they're still under the shadow of anti-trust allegations. While nothing has been proven in courts yet, I still don't want to support a company that could be abusing its dominant position that badly. It makes me feel like less of a consumer whore - not much less of one, but less of one.
 
CestusGW said:
1) I'm sick of having an outdated, budget system. My 2500+ Barton is a great OC'er .... except the XP 3200+ it "comes close to" doesn't even show up on the charts any more. I'm gonna buy into the moment for once, I don't care if S939 is going to save me money.
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You have a reason to make the jump. Some of us who have fairly new s939 PC's aren't ready. You have an outdated system that you could ditch for a great system that will last you just as long as your old one did. I personally don't feel like throwing out my 3 month old s939 PC for something only slightly better.
 
emp7re said:
I dont want to pay loads of money for Conroe or Intel for that matter, I've always used AMD, always have liked them. They are better for gaming by far, I will never buy an Intel chip.
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Wow, you not a smart comsumre.

So if conroe does beat out AMD considerably - you would still buy an AMD for less performance?

talk about the apitamy(sp?) of what makes a fanny boy.



939 wont beat conroe unless they make a WHOLE new architecture for socket 939, which they wont do because that would defeat the purpose of AM2.
 
DemonDiablo said:
i dont see why you would bother "upgrading" (i use this word loosly in your situation) form an oc'ed 165. while the conroe is going to probably end up being a very good chip, your 165 is by no means going to become a slouch. i doubt anything is going to be coming along in the next year or two that is going to make you feel like your 165 is inadequate.
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i did say i would like to compare........ i didnt say " hey im getting that shit YEA!!"
 
tvdang7 said:
i did say i would like to compare........ i didnt say " hey im getting that shit YEA!!"
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your last sentence hints at the fact that you were actually tentalizing the thought of "upgrading". i was referring to that comment and i think my comment was pretty accurate in reference to that comment. now if you're saying that your last comment wasnt making a hint towards the fact that you were even remotely considering getting a new proc then i take all of my comments back regarding the post in question.
 
DemonDiablo said:
your last sentence hints at the fact that you were actually tentalizing the thought of "upgrading". i was referring to that comment and i think my comment was pretty accurate in reference to that comment. now if you're saying that your last comment wasnt making a hint towards the fact that you were even remotely considering getting a new proc then i take all of my comments back regarding the post in question.
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yes if im comparing!!! and it does seem to be great and cheaper than y the F@#$ not?
 
Bona Fide said:
So uh...my question to those of you that are actually getting an AM2 setup...why? To me, it seems just like buying an Intel 4-6 months ago. AM2 is inferior in every single regard to its Conroe opponent. The only advantage AMD has is that it will be releasing AM2 in 2 weeks, while we'll have to wait 2 months for Conroe. In my opinion, it's REALLY not worth jumping on AM2...2 weeks for a DDR2 makeover, or 2 months for a ~25% increase in performance.
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The reason I will check out AM2 is that when you get down into the budget area with Semprons and the like, it will still perform better than the equivalently priced Intel choices. Unless they start selling a conroe in the 80-150$ Range, AMD will beat them in bang for buck.

Sure, it's nice to be cutting edge, but I personally refuse to buy a CPU that costs more than 150$
 
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