Question for Dell 2007FP owners

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Siwy

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Does anybody have issues with the text being fuzzy on Dell 2007FP? I just got one a couple of days ago and the letters look like they are blurred upwards, like in this picture of the new Dell 2407

I’m wondering whether the defect is just in my display or do all of 2007FPs exhibit this problem.

Thanks!
 
Are you using the VGA connection or the DVI connection? The former can cause the blurry text problem.
 
I have ATI X850XT with DVI and VGA output, 2007FP is connected to VGA and 2405FPW is connected to DVI.

I changed them around, to see the difference, and 2405FPW stayed clear just as if it was connected to DVI, while 2007FP still showed the same blurry text. I also updated to the newest drivers.

After testing this monitor in different configurations I’m pretty sure that it is defective. I just want to find out if the defect is prevalent in these models so that I know whether I should try to exchange it for the same model or get something else.

Thanks,
 
Not sure if it's the same problem that bothers you, but my one also appears fuzzy. I blame it on the anti-reflective coating - it's so thick I can't focus on the screen properly, and it makes pure colours very unpleasant (and unpure)
 
I had a 2007 before I returned it this week for color banding.

However, I probably would've returned it anyway because the text was never sharp enough, always just a bit too fuzzy (via DVI). So yeah, I had the problem too.
 
Same problem on my 2007...it was especially bad when looking at colored text on colored backgrounds..
 
Well i have returned a 2007FP for color banding but for me the text was perfect. It was conected via DVI and i was using microsoft's cleartype tuner (not sure if that could posibly have any effect).
 
Mine does not have a color binding problem but the fuzzy text is driving me nuts, especially because it stands besides the flawless 2405FP. I will try to have it exchanged for some other model.

Thanks for the info.
 
Siwy said:
Mine does not have a color binding problem but the fuzzy text is driving me nuts, especially because it stands besides the flawless 2405FP. I will try to have it exchanged for some other model.

Thanks for the info.
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I have been following all the 2007 problems since the beginning, and yes fuzzy text comes up very often. There was a really good deal so I took a chance on the 2007fp but from the sounds of things, it will be going back(I don't have it yet). It sounds like Dell royally messed up the 2007fp, 2007wfp and 2407wfp.

As far as yours not having banding, it would be the first. AFAIK they all have banding.

Banding is worse on DVI, so you need to connect via DVI. Then run this: (esc to exit)
http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.2-fs.exe

Every second row is a complete smooth tone. Red steps, red smooth, green steps, green smooth and so on.

Here is an example of bad banding:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~json/stuff/red-green.jpg

I don't expect anything this bad, but any banding (steps) in that area is a fault. If your is actually totally smooth, Could you post your screen info from the service menu:

To enter the service menu, turn the monitor off, hold down the menu button and the + button at the same time, and while you're holding them down, turn the monitor back on. The monitor will take a second longer to come on. Once on, wait a second and then press the - button and the service menu will pop up.

There should be a line like LPL LM201... or SMS LTM201 or some such thing. What is that?
 
I just checked for color binding using DVI connection, and it really isn’t bad, not nearly as bad as the image you posted. But that might be because the screen is blurred :)

The line in the service menu says SMS LTM201U1.
 
Ah crap! They already changed over to Samsung panels. Mine is due next week and I only wanted a S-IPS panel, samsung makes make PVA which I don't like. I may just cancel the order. I can't stand the color shifts on PVA.

Thanks for the info.
 
Snowdog said:
Ah crap! They already changed over to Samsung panels. Mine is due next week and I only wanted a S-IPS panel, samsung makes make PVA which I don't like. I may just cancel the order. I can't stand the color shifts on PVA.

Thanks for the info.
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are you saying that 2007wfp are made by either PVA or S-IPS? Mine says LPL WSXGA LM201W01.
 
I now have my screen. A new 2007fp.

It is indeed a Samsung screen and has angular color shift.
It indeed has a fair bit of banding. Maybe not as much as some others, but still too much.
It also has ghosting/blur around letters like the 2407.

Stay far, far away from the 07 dell monitors.
 
i thought the 2007 was supposed to be a vast improvment over the 2005fpw... i havea 2005fpw and i have no blacklight bleeding, crisp text and no blurryness, its immaculate. What happened?
 
I just sent back my 2007FP and ordered another 2405FP. I could not put up with low contrast and blurriness when I put it beside 2405FP.
 
Here is my shot of the banding on mine.

Hard to photograph, but this shot is representative. This is perfectly smooth on my CRT, RGB input to the Dell improves it a bit but not by as much as I would have thought.

This shot was done in RAW mode, and converted to TIFF then saved as PNG. So no lossy compression was used anywhere producing the image. This is essentially what I see when looking at a gradient.

Camera Shot:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/04/606404/1/59586239.2007fp.png

source for image: This should be a nice smooth transition without bands.
http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.3-mix-fs.exe

This is a made in Mexico panel, Rev A00.
B01C18 SAM UXGA LTM201U1
 
Snowdog said:
Here is my shot of the banding on mine.

Hard to photograph, but this shot is representative. This is perfectly smooth on my CRT, RGB input to the Dell improves it a bit but not by as much as I would have thought.

This shot was done in RAW mode, and converted to TIFF then saved as PNG. So no lossy compression was used anywhere producing the image. This is essentially what I see when looking at a gradient.

Camera Shot:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/04/606404/1/59586239.2007fp.png

source for image: This should be a nice smooth transition without bands.
http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.3-mix-fs.exe

This is a made in Mexico panel, Rev A00.
B01C18 SAM UXGA LTM201U1
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Ouch, Dell really messed up. My NEC 20WMGX2 has a little bit of banding, but it's no where near as bad as it is on the Dell's.
 
Well I got mine yesterday, and have a look:

banding.jpg


:rolleyes: I also have some blurry text and inconsistent backlighting issues. It's going to be RMA'd, but I'm waiting a week or so to see if they do anything about this.

 
Snowdog said:
Here is my shot of the banding on mine.

Hard to photograph, but this shot is representative. This is perfectly smooth on my CRT, RGB input to the Dell improves it a bit but not by as much as I would have thought.

This shot was done in RAW mode, and converted to TIFF then saved as PNG. So no lossy compression was used anywhere producing the image. This is essentially what I see when looking at a gradient.

Camera Shot:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/04/606404/1/59586239.2007fp.png

source for image: This should be a nice smooth transition without bands.
http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.3-mix-fs.exe

This is a made in Mexico panel, Rev A00.
B01C18 SAM UXGA LTM201U1
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my banding never looked as bad as the banding pictures posted by others and the monitor was made in China not mexico. maybe its origin has something to do with banding.
 
for years i've tried ATI cards o VGA LCDs and i've been getting that exact blurring. DVI is OK but VGA looks bad with the 3 ATI cards i've tried in my life. DVI is once again great
 
steveng said:
my banding never looked as bad as the banding pictures posted by others and the monitor was made in China not mexico. maybe its origin has something to do with banding.
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Are you using DVI? And have you actually tried the gradlin program that was the source for my picture. These two things are generally necessary to make it obvious.
 
Snowdog said:
Are you using DVI? And have you actually tried the gradlin program that was the source for my picture. These two things are generally necessary to make it obvious.
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ya i am running it via DVI and i've tried two versions of the gradient test program.
 
_Korruption_ said:
I thought the 2007FP and WFP was all S-IPS panels from LG-Philips...
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As far as I know you're correct.

 
_Korruption_ said:
I thought the 2007FP and WFP was all S-IPS panels from LG-Philips...
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nope. Dell has changed 2007fp from S-IPS to PVA. If you got one from the early batch, it would have been S-IPS.
 
What's the cost diff between PVA and SIPS? Is Dell saving that much more money?
 
LCD said:
What's the cost diff between PVA and SIPS? Is Dell saving that much more money?
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I know the tech is different but i'm not sure how both panels differ. They both have wide viewing angles and full 16.7 color support. I'm not sure if Dell is saving any more money. Its all up to the negotiating that takes place between companies.
 
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