Scythe Ninja Install

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eurin

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Holy crap, that thing was a freaking bitch to install. I had it sliding around and tilting so much, I doubt the AS5 got a good solid layer. The fan clips were also a piece of crap. I thought I was going to crush my cpu trying to get this thing on.

I'll probably start recommending the Zalman 9500 to friends instead of this.
 
eurin said:
Holy crap, that thing was a freaking bitch to install. I had it sliding around and tilting so much, I doubt the AS5 got a good solid layer. The fan clips were also a piece of crap. I thought I was going to crush my cpu trying to get this thing on.

I'll probably start recommending the Zalman 9500 to friends instead of this.
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who the hell has this much trouble installing it!?

I hooked one set, popped down the others. DONE.

Hardest part of my installation was taking the stock mobo bracket off...

EDIT: Sorry, I just read my post and realized I sounded like a jerkface. No "meanness" was intended!
 
quadnad said:
who the hell has this much trouble installing it!?

I hooked one set, popped down the others. DONE.

Hardest part of my installation was taking the stock mobo bracket off...

EDIT: Sorry, I just read my post and realized I sounded like a jerkface. No "meanness" was intended!
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Naw, it's ok. Mine just didn't want to clip down at all. It's size and height also made it quite difficult to get my hands around to the backsides. I tried it first without my cpu in to familiarize myself with the clips, too.
 
N H O said:
were you installing w/ the mobo inside the case?
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Yes, I don't think I'd be able to maneauver the mobo back into my case with it on. I have the Antec Sonata II. Days like these make me wish I had gone with the Antec P180.
 
eurin said:
Yes, I don't think I'd be able to maneauver the mobo back into my case with it on. I have the Antec Sonata II. Days like these make me wish I had gone with the Antec P180.
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I did, and it would've been even worse. No mobo tray in the P180 and due to the dual-chamber design, the mobo area is even tighter than it is in a smaller, traditional layout case.

Getting those clips on was a pain.
 
I have the Ninja and a P180 too. When I first tried to install it while the mobo was still in the case it was frustrating as hell. Frustrating enough that I yanked my mobo out of there to get it mounted. But once I saw how it went on, it wasn't that difficult getting it back after I lapped my Ninja yesterday. It's easiest to put on one clip then the one diagonal to it.
 
If I end up remounting it, I'll probably just have help holding it down, since once you get 1 clip in, it'll try to flip on you. I lapped mine, too. I'm glad I planned on it, because surface had ridges over the entire surface.

So far I'm not noticing much temp difference from my stock copper heat pipe HSF (unlapped, only lapped it while I was doing the Ninja). Chances are it's my board, it is terrible at reading temps. It shows atleast 10 C over the true temp.
 
I've removed and remounted mine three times now, you kinda learn the trick eventually...

Set the thing down on top of your processor, making sure all four clips are angled outward (sometimes they 'fall' inward, and then when you set it down on top of the CPU they are inside the retention bracket), then just pick two of them on opposite corners of each other, put the tips of your thumbs on the clips toward the inside of the clip, right where it starts to angle downward. Then put your index fingers under the outer edge of the clips. You literally push and pull at the same time, you'll use your index fingers to "pull up" on the clip to keep them from popping inward when you push them down. Push down with your thumbs (yeah it takes a bit of force, but the thing is a tight fitting heatsink :p ) and when you're low enough, just remove your index fingers completely, the pushing force of your thumb will snap the clips inward automatically. Push it down low enough to meet the holes on the retention bracket, or even lower, and when you remove your index fingers they snap in every time.

I did it yesterday while testing a second CPU's OCing ability, both times I reinstalled it, it took me 15-20 seconds. Took longer to remove it than to install :p
 
i love this heatsink, but re-installing it inside a case is murder. i'd lap the base to get rid of the scratches and dents i've accumulated from switching out CPUs, but i'd end up scratching it up trying to reinstall it! Makes you wish more cases offered removable mobo trays.
 
Wasn't too bad putting it on my Asus A8N-SLI while in my Antec P180, but the next time I will definitely pull the mobo to take it on or off. Hardest part was plugging back in the 4-pin 12V connector in the upper left corner. That and the fact that the 120mm fan I bought for it would only really fit on in one direction

On an interesting side note, I have the rear, blowhole, and upper front intake of the P180 populated with the Antec Tri-cools on "Low" and was able to Prime95 my Manchester X2 3800+ at stock speed and voltage with NO FAN on the Ninja. Ran with just the airflow from the case fans for 4+ hours before I got bored waiting for an error. Idled at 34C, Primed at 47C.

Runs an Opteron 165 now (with a Silverstone adjustable strapped on and set to 1000 RPMs) @ 260x9 = 2340 loaded @ 47C - 49C @ stock voltage. Still hoping to push it further over the next little bit.

I have to admit that I am impressed, having used mostly Thermaltake up to this point.
 
Localan said:
Wasn't too bad putting it on my Asus A8N-SLI while in my Antec P180, but the next time I will definitely pull the mobo to take it on or off. Hardest part was plugging back in the 4-pin 12V connector in the upper left corner. That and the fact that the 120mm fan I bought for it would only really fit on in one direction

On an interesting side note, I have the rear, blowhole, and upper front intake of the P180 populated with the Antec Tri-cools on "Low" and was able to Prime95 my Manchester X2 3800+ at stock speed and voltage with NO FAN on the Ninja. Ran with just the airflow from the case fans for 4+ hours before I got bored waiting for an error. Idled at 34C, Primed at 47C.

Runs an Opteron 165 now (with a Silverstone adjustable strapped on and set to 1000 RPMs) @ 260x9 = 2340 loaded @ 47C - 49C @ stock voltage. Still hoping to push it further over the next little bit.

I have to admit that I am impressed, having used mostly Thermaltake up to this point.
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I run a 4400+ in a P180 with a Scythe Ninja with no fan. I have Coolermaster LED fans running at 800rpm for the top and rear exhaust fans and the intake fan at 1200rpm. No heat issues and am loving the silence.
 
My motherboard died today. I suspect the backplate of the Ninja may have been the cause. It was the only thing changed this week.
 
Oh jeez. Did you use the sticky thing? Something obviously got caught and short circuited, sorry to hear that.
 
Ya, I used the sticky. I think after the HSF had time to set in, the backplate was then able to touch. The sticky compressed enough that the rim lowered close enough to touch soldering on the back. I'm going to RMA the board, but I scraped a few traces getting the backplate off. I have a feeling my warranty will voided.

I only pray my CPU, RAM and Video card weren't damaged.
 
Some people with the Ninja use the stock back-plate and modify the screw length.
 
setscrew said:
Some people with the Ninja use the stock back-plate and modify the screw length.
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Ya, I originally checked the stock screw length, but they were too long. This time I'll just buy two more screws across the street at the Menard's. I'll keep the stock ones incase of another RMA.
 
An update to my thread.

I ordered the DFI expert board from ZZF and it came today. This time I went across the street and bought 3/4th in screws to replace the stock 1 in, so I could use the stock back plate. I won't know until a week or two from now if EVGA will replace my old board. I'm just very happy nothing else was damaged in my system.

The fan is very cramped now, since this board places the cpu further back in the case. I really liked the Antec P180 case, but I hated the silver. Now that it's in black, I may order one this summer for much better air flow.
 
Im installing the Ninja Plus on my FX-60 tommorrow... going to try fanless, only because my new case has super awesome airflow (its the new Lian Li PC-S80). I'll let you guys know! I have an A8N-SLI, looks like I get to use the stock backplate thank god.
 
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