Another Violent video game Study

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Ok, I am getting so sick of these so called researches doing these studies and claiming that video games will increase the risk of peoplpe having sex, doing drugs, ect. I mean come on, its a fucking VIDEO GAME! Read the article and tell me what you think. I personally think these studies are funded by groups who want these games stopped so the outcome is always in there favor. :mad:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-04-07T163654Z_01_COL759791_RTRUKOC_0_US-VIDEO-GAMES.xml&pageNumber=0&imageid=&cap=&sz=13
 
I always like to point out how moronic the testing methods used are in these studies but I cant access the full text without a subscription to their medicine publication. I could make it to the abstract though

Effects of Media Violence on Health-Related Outcomes Among Young Men
Sonya S. Brady, PhD; Karen A. Matthews, PhD


Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2006;160:341-347.

Objective To test the effects of media violence exposure on blood pressure, negative affect, hostile social information processing, uncooperative behavior, and attitudes toward health risk behaviors among young men varying in lifetime violence exposure within the home and community.

Design Experimental laboratory study.

Setting University campus situated within an urban environment.

Participants One hundred male undergraduates aged 18 to 21 years.

Intervention Men who had previously reported differing amounts of lifetime home and community violence were randomly assigned to play The Simpsons: Hit and Run (low-violence condition) or Grand Theft Auto III (high-violence condition).

Main Outcome Measures Systolic and diastolic blood pressure; negative affect; hostile social information processing; uncooperative behavior; and permissive attitudes toward violence, alcohol use, marijuana use, and sexual activity without condom use.

Results Men randomly assigned to play Grand Theft Auto III exhibited greater increases in diastolic blood pressure from a baseline rest period to game play, greater negative affect, more permissive attitudes toward using alcohol and marijuana, and more uncooperative behavior in comparison with men randomly assigned to play The Simpsons. Only among participants with greater exposure to home and community violence, play of Grand Theft Auto III led to elevated systolic blood pressure in comparison with play of The Simpsons (mean, 13 vs 5 mm Hg).

Conclusions Media violence exposure may play a role in the development of negative attitudes and behaviors related to health. Although youth growing up in violent homes and communities may become more physiologically aroused by media violence exposure, all youth appear to be at risk for potentially negative outcomes.


Author Affiliations: University of Pittsburgh (Drs Brady and Matthews), Pittsburgh, Pa. Dr Brady is now a postdoctoral fellow in the Health Psychology Program at the University of California, San Francisco.
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So playing video games increases blood pressure? That proves it, video games turn kids into zombies! Now wheres my university research money?
 
Yup. They are right. When I play D00M 3 I have to take my clothes off, drink alchohol, smoke some weed and fuck my cat without a condom.

Oh, then I go beat the shit out of my neighbor.

I too am sick and tired of these so called "studies". They make me want to kill people.


Oh, and for those who can't take the humor I was being sarcastic.
 
I did a science fair project on myself in 7th grade (that was about 15 years ago) that showed that playing video games raised blood pressure... and then lowered it after about 10 minutes. Pretty much the same way smoking does. Oh, that must mean that playing video games is addictive because smoking is addictive.

These researchers are retarded.

Also I found it funny that they said it led to both smoking marijuana AND being paranoid...
 
If they substitute violent video games with violent movies/tv/reality and come up with a different outcome than this with their test subjects, give me a call.

Of course that isn't the topic du jour, so I won't hold my breath.
 
Kristo said:
If they substitute violent video games with violent movies/tv/reality and come up with a different outcome than this with their test subjects, give me a call.
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When did they ever claim the outcome would be different? There's been dozens of studies over the decades that said violent media, including television and movies, increases aggression.

Just because you dumbasses don't think it does, doesn't mean it doesn't. When you watched television, listen to music, or play a game, you're telling me you've never felt happy, sad, angry, or excited? Of course you have, and games can cause aggressions. Just because YOU don't go out and shoot somebody right after playing a game, doesn't mean it doesn't increase aggression or violence.

How would you feel if there's game out there that's developed specifically for pedophilia. You go around doing nothing but trying to convince little kids to get in your van or house, and you molest them. You're telling me you wouldn't be against it? You're telling me this wouldn't arouse the people who are attracted to that game?
 
Should we medicate people for being depressed after watching a depressing movie? Or just ban depressing movies? They imply aggression is caused by high blood pressure and drug use from the players backgrounds whose blood pressure rose. Is this the proof you speak of?
 
moralpanic said:
When did they ever claim the outcome would be different? There's been dozens of studies over the decades that said violent media, including television and movies, increases aggression.

Just because you dumbasses don't think it does, doesn't mean it doesn't. When you watched television, listen to music, or play a game, you're telling me you've never felt happy, sad, angry, or excited? Of course you have, and games can cause aggressions. Just because YOU don't go out and shoot somebody right after playing a game, doesn't mean it doesn't increase aggression or violence.

How would you feel if there's game out there that's developed specifically for pedophilia. You go around doing nothing but trying to convince little kids to get in your van or house, and you molest them. You're telling me you wouldn't be against it? You're telling me this wouldn't arouse the people who are attracted to that game?
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So, you were a test subject then? Hence why you think these so called "studies" are good.

My mother and father had sex without a condom, hence why I'm here. Both of them have done drugs too. My father went to war and got into fist fights, my mother never went to war but she too got into fights growing up. They both grew up with pong. Theres the connection.
 
Maybe the guy had higher blood pressure, because the game he was playing was not insanely boring.
 
Moose777 said:
Yup. They are right. When I play D00M 3 I have to take my clothes off, drink alchohol, smoke some weed and fuck my cat without a condom.

Oh, then I go beat the shit out of my neighbor.

I too am sick and tired of these so called "studies". They make me want to kill people.


Oh, and for those who can't take the humor I was being sarcastic.
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That was a good one.
 
its not the games that are the problem, its the music. i see 6 year olds with there mid 20 parents listening to "sweat drip from my balls" together in a car. cmon. gimme a break.

and the other day i was walking, a 10 year old wear baggy clothing and chains was walking with another very young mother, she said "if you talk like that again, im gonna smack the shit out of your asshole"

my parents never said anything like that to me ever.
 
I don't understand the point of these studies myself. It does seem like the psychology establishment wants to discredit gamers, or wants a scapegoat for bad behaviour, other than that person being a bad person.

What I do think is funny, however, is that one of the best studies about Gamers was done by a Christian Magazine! I've been having trouble finding the link, but basically it said that gamers are more likely to: take bigger risks in life; they've learned that risks = rewards, generally value social interaction as a higher priority, have better teamwork skills (and you thought Counter Strike wouldn't teach you anything valuable), etc. It was a great article... still searching for it.
 
As long as you approach violence with the proper attitude, it's not a problem. If you're playing a game to image all the pain to video character would be in if he were in real life, you have serious issues. Video's are for killing bad guys, or for competitive play. When you kill a friend in a game you don't do it too express your hatred of him. It's also like wrestling or paint ball. Your objective is not to hurt anyone or train to hurt anyone. It just fun.

A pedophile games would be an entirely different story. It would be just a game where you cause simulated pain in people. Also, the sexual nature of such a game, means that it's not just a game. It's like porn, in that it also panders to the same emotions that you would feel if you were doing such an activity. The same would also go for a torture simulation. Of course it would not cause violence, it would merely be an manifestation of a person's violent/perverted nature. People are evil. Get over it.

Saying that games causes violence is stupid. Sure, you may want to punch some annoying little 12 year old in the face because he's been driving you crazy, but if you do, who in their right mind will say that he made you punch him? Your emotions shouldn't control you. If they do you'll be in jail by the time you're 16. It's the person that causes the violence, not the activities he chooses to engage in.
 
Moose777 said:
Yup. They are right. When I play D00M 3 I have to take my clothes off, drink alchohol, smoke some weed and fuck my cat without a condom.

Oh, then I go beat the shit out of my neighbor.
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Glad I'm not the only one. Maybe we should start going to some group aid sessions. Help us with our problems.
 
Moose777 said:
Yup. They are right. When I play D00M 3 I have to take my clothes off, drink alchohol, smoke some weed and fuck my cat without a condom.
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you too eh?

Your other stuff is just silly! ;)

I wonder how they explain me who has never done any drugs other than drinking and have played games all my life?
 
Thats it. I know how to solve this dilemma.

Moose777's Support Group will be Friday night at 8 pm in the basement of the church. Bring baseball bats and weed. We'll be beating the shit out of the people who conduct these "studies".
 
The article made me laugh. They said that it had more of an effect on kids who grew up with violent homes or communities. What, did their heart BPM's go up an extra couple beats than the others? How about they look at oh jeez.....movies? I guarantee all that comes out of this already done before Flight 93 film just increases the country's hatred towards Muslims. That leads to violence. Do you see them running studies on violent movies? Heeeeeeeeeeeellllll no.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must go on my daily baby-punching tangent.
 
0810 said:
its not the games that are the problem, its the music. i see 6 year olds with there mid 20 parents listening to "sweat drip from my balls" together in a car. cmon. gimme a break.

and the other day i was walking, a 10 year old wear baggy clothing and chains was walking with another very young mother, she said "if you talk like that again, im gonna smack the shit out of your asshole"

my parents never said anything like that to me ever.
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so i guess ur blaming it on the parents/people who are influential in the young persons life?
 
Bad parenting... thats it... Bad parents having kids and thus those kids grow up to become shitty parents too and so the cycle continues...The gene pool just needs more chlorene! :p

PS: Also (c)rap music needs to just die along with the people who do it. That alone will solve 90% of violence/crime! Yes i may be harsh but everybody who is into that crap acts stupid and would shoot you out of boredom which btw they do! And for people who don't believe me. Look at rappers, videos, and people who listen to that crap. What do you see? A f'in angry face with a attitude to go along with it... :rolleyes:
 
Moose777 said:
Yup. They are right. When I play D00M 3 I have to take my clothes off, drink alchohol, smoke some weed and fuck my cat without a condom.

Oh, then I go beat the shit out of my neighbor.

I too am sick and tired of these so called "studies". They make me want to kill people.


Oh, and for those who can't take the humor I was being sarcastic.
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It wasn't funny; the cat wasn't high
 
Tazman2 said:
Bad parenting... thats it... Bad parents having kids and thus those kids grow up to become shitty parents too and so the cycle continues...The gene pool just needs more chlorene! :p

PS: Also (c)rap music needs to just die along with the people who do it. That alone will solve 90% of violence/crime! Yes i may be harsh but everybody who is into that crap acts stupid and would shoot you out of boredom which btw they do! And for people who don't believe me. Look at rappers, videos, and people who listen to that crap. What do you see? A f'in angry face with a attitude to go along with it... :rolleyes:
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lol sterotyping will not get you anywhere in life...i listen to rap music and so do another 300 people i know and not a single one of them leads a bad life or gives any bad influences to other generations..and all of us 300 are succesful people at whatever we choose to do...
 
Mayhs said:
lol sterotyping will not get you anywhere in life...i listen to rap music and so do another 300 people i know and not a single one of them leads a bad life or gives any bad influences to other generations..and all of us 300 are succesful people at whatever we choose to do,,,
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Its not a sterotype if 80%+ of people into that crap act a certain way. Sure your one of the "rest" that don't. Here's a cookie for being "different"! :p
 
Tazman2 said:
Its not a sterotype if 80%+ of people into that crap act a certain way. Sure your one of the "rest" that don't. Here's a cookie for being "different"! :p
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lol thnx..i like cookies :p

but you cant conlusively say that rap music is the sole reason for this....the people who listen to rap arent how they are because of its influence, they are how they are because of their environment...if we take a cross-section of the people who listen to rap then 80% of those people are more unfortunate than we are and live in extremely pressurised conditions which causes them to act the way they do...

and if you actually listen to rap music you will realise that only one or two of the artists promote violence/drugs/prostitution etc. the rest are against all of this....
unfortunately for us the one or two who do set the bad image are the main stream ones that sell more albums than cookies...
 
If playing video games increases the "risk" of having sex, maybe I need to resubscribe to WoW? Or go real hardcore and get EQ2 and D&D? Oooooh even better... I'll get all three! That'd make me a super pimp.

The line starts here ladies. You'll get a chance at me as soon as I kill Vagash.
 
Mayhs said:
lol thnx..i like cookies :p

but you cant conlusively say that rap music is the sole reason for this....the people who listen to rap arent how they are because of its influence, they are how they are because of their environment...if we take a cross-section of the people who listen to rap then 80% of those people are more unfortunate than we are and live in extremely pressurised conditions which causes them to act the way they do...

and if you actually listen to rap music you will realise that only one or two of the artists promote violence/drugs/prostitution etc. the rest are against all of this....
unfortunately for us the one or two who do set the bad image are the main stream ones that sell more albums than cookies...
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You make a good point but unfortuntly around here that "rap" is part of that bad "environment". Ie why i mentioned people who just look angry and act dumb that listen to it. Theres ALOT of that around here. And yes i know its not all violent, etc. I used to be into it back in the day of PE, Ice Cube, etc. Old old school. But now its just all about $$$ and unfortuntly alot of it promotes violence in one way or another. We have a local bar that plays only "hip hop" and 3 out of the 4 days its open per week a fight/shooting breaks out. Yet down the street at the "regular" bars NOT playing "hip hop" theres only what 1 fight per 20 times its open but usually those are the same people who just happen to come from the other club! :p

DudeItsMe said:
If playing video games increases the "risk" of having sex, maybe I need to resubscribe to WoW? Or go real hardcore and get EQ2 and D&D? Oooooh even better... I'll get all three! That'd make me a super pimp.

The line starts here ladies. You'll get a chance at me as soon as I kill Vagash.
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Hahahahhahaha :D
 
OK I have more to add
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First of all, I grew up playing video games. I've played them since... well since before I could read. Then I learned to read and played more
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I used to not be into music, but now I'm really into it, and yes, that includes rap (oh n0es!1). I also play paintball, and can get quite addicted/serious about it when the weather is warm.

Now with all that, I've never drank, smoked, done drugs, etc. I'm also a virgin by choice (no, I'm not 40).

As far as the comment about "listen to rap and tell me what you hear" (paraphrasing)... well lots of times they rap about how they came from a bad environment and worked to get what they want and get on top. Yes there are songs about drugs and the like, but very few that actually glorify it. If anything, I find the rap artists show that dedication and hard work will get you somewhere. You may not like rap, but if a 14 year-old decides not to sell weed because he wants get out of the 'hood and make it big, I'd say that's a positive influence. BUT nobody gave me a soapbox, so I'm gonna shut up before Rich smacks me.
 
DudeItsMe said:
Yes there are songs about drugs and the like, but very few that actually glorify it. If anything, I find the rap artists show that dedication and hard work will get you somewhere. You may not like rap, but if a 14 year-old decides not to sell weed because he wants get out of the 'hood and make it big, I'd say that's a positive influence. BUT nobody gave me a soapbox, so I'm gonna shut up before Rich smacks me.
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Yeah its true but unfortuntly most ie 99% don't see it that way. I see kids running around with their pants down to their knees and shooting guns sideways at arcades at a ripe age of probably 10 sooo yeah... And btw i drink (but i'm polish so its okay), "smoke" once in awhile, etc. and i don't tend to play violent games unless you consider the look on my face when the medic in BF2 not reviving somebody in time/or killed right after a revive violent! :p
 
Tazman2 said:
You make a good point but unfortuntly around here that "rap" is part of that bad "environment". Ie why i mentioned people who just look angry and act dumb that listen to it. Theres ALOT of that around here. And yes i know its not all violent, etc. I used to be into it back in the day of PE, Ice Cube, etc. Old old school. But now its just all about $$$ and unfortuntly alot of it promotes violence in one way or another. We have a local bar that plays only "hip hop" and 3 out of the 4 days its open per week a fight/shooting breaks out. Yet down the street at the "regular" bars NOT playing "hip hop" theres only what 1 fight per 20 times its open but usually those are the same people who just happen to come from the other club! :p



Hahahahhahaha :D
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i guess its not 'raps' fault...its just 80% of the people it attract's fault :p

the place i live in england (near london - a huge town called reading which is soon to become a city :D ) the main people of concern here are 'pikes' who listen to rock all that deathmetal and heavymetal...it would be wrong for me to criticise the music as its not the musics fault...

BUT...in fear of contradiction i guess its the person..some people are influenced heavily by music and others are not...i guess thats the same with games and movies
 
When I hear rap, I hear lots of sub woofer. Then a guy will usually talk really fast and it's way to much trouble to understand what he's saying. So, I never listen to rap.
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
When I hear rap, I hear lots of sub woofer. Then a guy will usually talk really fast and it's way to much trouble to understand what he's saying. So, I never listen to rap.
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WHAT?! :p
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
When I hear rap, I hear lots of sub woofer. Then a guy will usually talk really fast and it's way to much trouble to understand what he's saying. So, I never listen to rap.
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heh..we dont need ur comments u oldie ;) :p **


**my statement is only correct if hes old lol :p
 
Well there are a WHOLE load of ethical and moral issues to get involved in here and if you dont want me to get started just say so :p

but if a 15 year old decides to sell weed to get himself out of poverty (and his family) so he can get enough money to become a doctor is wrong** then so is stealing bread from the rich to feed the hungry wrong?...something to pondor

**if this is the only way he can make enough money to go to university
 
Mayhs said:
but if a 15 year old decides to sell weed to get himself out of poverty (and his family) so he can get enough money to become a doctor is wrong** then so is stealing bread from the rich to feed the hungry wrong?...something to pondor

**if this is the only way he can make enough money to go to university
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Its not okay because the popo says its not as does the court system, bush i'm sure too, etc.! They rather they be nobody and shoot each other because then its "okay"! ;)
 
to me, theres no difference between 50 cent, TI, e40, and others besides the amount of times they have been shot, each
 
0810 said:
to me, theres no difference between 50 cent, TI, e40, and others besides the amount of times they have been shot, each
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Ahhhhhhhahahahahaha *falls off of chair* [/cold hearted bastard] :cool:
 
0810 said:
to me, theres no difference between 50 cent, TI, e40, and others besides the amount of times they have been shot, each
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laughs...commercial rap :p
 
Tazman2 said:
Its not okay because the popo says its not as does the court system, bush i'm sure too, etc.! They rather they be nobody and shoot each other because then its "okay"! ;)
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dont get me started with bush :p ....but i guess its right eventually
 
Mayhs said:
dont get me started with bush :p ....but i guess its right eventually
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Yeah tell me about it... But wow this thread will be closed any moment for MAJOR OT! :D
 
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