2405 vs 3007

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I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed. I have looked at a lot of threads but could not find anything yet . .

Image quality between the 2? Gaming in particular, movies secondary.

I know the 3007 is bigger (duh), but how do the quality of the panel feel? Suppose the panels were the same size and roughly same price, which panel would be your choice?

Stuff like backlighting, color uniformity, response rate, saturation, black levels, etc. I know these are published specs, but real world reviews from you guys is so much more informative.

Liver
 
great thread, but . . .

you know, need a comparison.

Like "discounting the size of the 3007, I think it has a higher quality panel than the 2405." Or something like that.

Or, "the only difference is the size, but I still prefer the 2405 because the panel is higher quality."
 
Both are excellent , i had a 2405 before the 30, the 30 seemed faster in games. I played CS at 111 fps at 2056x 1600 wth no ghosting


I hope that helps
 
How reliable is dell LCD? I know dell claim that they last for 24000 hours. But in reality, how long does these two LCD really last?
 
I dont know, i had a FP1703 seventeen that was going strong after 2 years plus when i traded it

I have a FP1704 thats about 10 months old with no issues

My 2405 was as bright and responsive yesterday as it was 8 months ago
I usualy dont keep a monitor more than a year cause they just keep getting bigger and better lol
 
jacuzz1 said:
I dont know, i had a FP1703 seventeen that was going strong after 2 years plus when i traded it

I have a FP1704 thats about 10 months old with no issues

My 2405 was as bright and responsive yesterday as it was 8 months ago
I usualy dont keep a monitor more than a year cause they just keep getting bigger and better lol
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What do you mean you don't keep a monitor more than a year? What do you do with the old one? Do you sell it? Does dell buy it back from you? :confused: :confused:
 
Lol...DELL wont buy it back...i imagine he either sell's it or runs multiple displays...

About the lifespan...I still have my 17" Philips 170B4 after 2+ years of heavy use...admittedly, after sitting it next to the DELL, it looks pretty dim..but i never noticed it until they were side by side...

Besides, there's just been announcement about the new 2407's being released before the end of the month...wait till then...you might either get a cheaper 2405 or, if they choose to discontinue them, you'd get the improved 2407 and what i imagine would be around the same price if not just slightly more...
 
StalkerZER0 said:
What do you mean you don't keep a monitor more than a year? What do you do with the old one? Do you sell it? Does dell buy it back from you? :confused: :confused:
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I sell, trade , give them to my kids etc
 
So many new toys on the horizon. So many things to upgrade to. Where does it end? Does it end?

I am waiting for the DLP LED backlighted displays (currently announced, not available, by Samsung and AKAI). I am not holding my breath, but am drooling for the SEDs.

However
That would be so nice to get a LED backlighted LCD to eliminate backlighting uniformity issues and (hopefully) better black level, as opposed to shades of gray. I know there are LED backlighting for RP LCDs (Sony?). But a nice computer sized display (21 to 30 inches) with the computer resolution (i.e. not 1280x720 HDTV stuff) would be really nice.

I guess that is what I am looking for. I have a 2405 that I am happy with, but something inside me wants the 3007.

I bought one of the original SGI 1600SW and was completely blown away by its image quality. Not a single flat panel could come close to it in the day. I reluctantly bought a 2001FP, and was pleased. More because it was more compatible, not better in image quality. I quickly upgrade to a 2405 and am very happy with the improved image quality and overall quality of the monitor.

I am looking for that monitor upgrade that will make me say, "where has this been all my life." Does not seem to me the 3007 is it, but I still want to get it.

If you made it this far, thanks. If you have any suggestions, I am open to them!

Liver
 
i currently own both...

to be honest.. i wish i hadnt bought the 30 inch. The main issue i have with the 3007 is the uniformity of the backlight. i have been through 3 displays and they all have the same problem with the right side of the display being brighter than the left by a very noticeable margin. less so once warmed up but still there. Dell does finally admit that there is a known issue with this and have offered me a complete refund and that is what i am going to do ...regrettably... i do love the size and resolutuion :(

in contrast i have been extremely satisfied with the 2405. hardly any thing to complain about apart from it being smaller than the 3007.. haha

the uniformity problem may not be noticeable to you or even bother you at all even if you noticed it... so your mileage may vary
 
More about the issue, please! In what software was it most apparent? Was it always apparent? I am seriously looking at the 3007 to replace my 2405, but I am a VERY heavy and diverse user. I game, CAD, Photoshop, email, surf the web, edit video, the list goes on. I am at my desk for 10-18 hours a day typically; I have the Mayline Varitask Desk so I can stand or sit, otherwise I fear my legs would atrophy! This anomoly would effect me greatly!

I am absolutely pleased with my 2405, but I still run out of room when I multitask and I greatly prefer one large monitor over 2 smaller monitors...especially in game!
 
singsing said:
i currently own both...

to be honest.. i wish i hadnt bought the 30 inch. The main issue i have with the 3007 is the uniformity of the backlight. i have been through 3 displays and they all have the same problem with the right side of the display being brighter than the left by a very noticeable margin. less so once warmed up but still there. Dell does finally admit that there is a known issue with this and have offered me a complete refund and that is what i am going to do ...regrettably... i do love the size and resolutuion :(

in contrast i have been extremely satisfied with the 2405. hardly any thing to complain about apart from it being smaller than the 3007.. haha

the uniformity problem may not be noticeable to you or even bother you at all even if you noticed it... so your mileage may vary
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Zero issues here, I look at mine and say: "where have you been all my
life?"
 
Degenerate said:
More about the issue, please! In what software was it most apparent? Was it always apparent? I am seriously looking at the 3007 to replace my 2405, but I am a VERY heavy and diverse user. I game, CAD, Photoshop, email, surf the web, edit video, the list goes on. I am at my desk for 10-18 hours a day typically; I have the Mayline Varitask Desk so I can stand or sit, otherwise I fear my legs would atrophy! This anomoly would effect me greatly!

I am absolutely pleased with my 2405, but I still run out of room when I multitask and I greatly prefer one large monitor over 2 smaller monitors...especially in game!
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I was blown away by the 2405 when I got mine, it reminded me of the quality the two Samsung 213T screens I have owned and then some. The 3007 takes it up yet antoher knotch in overall quality.
 
I really really should stop reading these threads...they make me want to get the 3007....I have been trying to convince my dad the he needs the 2405 lcd that i have. That way, I can give mine to him and don't feel guilty getting the 3007...afterall, my 2405 was replaced by the 3007 for a good cause...
Of course, deep down, I know it is all unadulterated self-ratification
 
magnuspah said:
I really really should stop reading these threads...they make me want to get the 3007....I have been trying to convince my dad the he needs the 2405 lcd that i have. That way, I can give mine to him and don't feel guilty getting the 3007...afterall, my 2405 was replaced by the 3007 for a good cause...
Of course, deep down, I know it is all unadulterated self-ratification
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:devil: You're going to do it :devil:

Haha, I know the urge. I'm on the border of 2 dual 2005s or 1 2405. I don't know which would be better ....
 
magnuspah said:
I really really should stop reading these threads...they make me want to get the 3007....I have been trying to convince my dad the he needs the 2405 lcd that i have. That way, I can give mine to him and don't feel guilty getting the 3007...afterall, my 2405 was replaced by the 3007 for a good cause...
Of course, deep down, I know it is all unadulterated self-ratification
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did you mean self-gradification?
 
pookguy88 said:
did you mean self-gradification?
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Lol, actually it's "self gratification".

And that's exactly what it is, getting a baby like the 3007. :D
 
weemies said:
Lol, actually it's "self gratification".

And that's exactly what it is, getting a baby like the 3007. :D
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If I had a wife, and after 9mo a 3007 popped out, I'd be happy.
 
The Dell 3007 is a generally worthless monitor, just like the 30" Apple Cinema display that shares the same LG.Philips LCD panel. They only take 2 resolutions. 1280x800 and 2560x1600. They only have DVI inputs, no composite, no s-video, no picture in picture, no component input, and no VGA input. This is because there is no scalar from Genesis or Pixelworks that supports 2560x1600 (yet).

IMHO, the 24" widescreen Dell is a much more practical monitor. But, if you have to one up everyone and are willing to live with a rather limited monitor, get the 30".
 
Stereodude said:
The Dell 3007 is a generally worthless monitor, just like the 30" Apple Cinema display that shares the same LG.Philips LCD panel. They only take 2 resolutions. 1280x800 and 2560x1600. They only have DVI inputs, no composite, no s-video, no picture in picture, no component input, and no VGA input. This is because there is no scalar from Genesis or Pixelworks that supports 2560x1600 (yet).

IMHO, the 24" widescreen Dell is a much more practical monitor. But, if you have to one up everyone and are willing to live with a rather limited monitor, get the 30".
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I guess I had to one up as I replaced my 23" ACD and 23" Sony with one. Then I hear people slam SLI and say dual 7800 GTX 512s are overkill.

Your are too quick to slam, my friend. I did not buy a 30" ACD because I saw how pickly my 23" was (could ONLY use it at 1900 by 1200). The Dell is superior in allowiing two native resolutions. I have no use for anything other and DVI for a desktop monitor. My Xbox 360 has a 60" DLP so it is happy enough.



I think the monitor is great thus far. Perfect? No. But pretty good.
 
Stereodude said:
The Dell 3007 is a generally worthless monitor, just like the 30" Apple Cinema display that shares the same LG.Philips LCD panel. They only take 2 resolutions. 1280x800 and 2560x1600. They only have DVI inputs, no composite, no s-video, no picture in picture, no component input, and no VGA input. This is because there is no scalar from Genesis or Pixelworks that supports 2560x1600 (yet).

IMHO, the 24" widescreen Dell is a much more practical monitor. But, if you have to one up everyone and are willing to live with a rather limited monitor, get the 30".
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You could not be more wrong. You see the world does not revolve around your needs. IT may be worthless to you but that is all.

I did not buy this thing to hook a buch of shit to it. I have other tvs and monitors for that.I purchased it for high resoluton gaming , spreadsheets, extraordinary web surfing, photo and video editing.

I am , however impressed that you posses the basic knowledge required to make a purchase based on your individual needs but i am confused at why you feel the need to point that out to the masses. I can only conclude that you some how feel inadequate

I know , buy a 3007 , its the viagra for e-penises :D
 
jacuzz1 said:
You could not be more wrong. You see the world does not revolve around your needs. IT may be worthless to you but that is all.

I did not buy this thing to hook a buch of shit to it. I have other tvs and monitors for that.I purchased it for high resoluton gaming , spreadsheets, extraordinary web surfing, photo and video editing.

I am , however impressed that you posses the basic knowledge required to make a purchase based on your individual needs but i am confused at why you feel the need to point that out to the masses. I can only conclude that you some how feel inadequate

I know , buy a 3007 , its the viagra for e-penises :D
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Uh... if you say so...

I have a 30" Apple Cinema display at work and my comments are from firsthand experience with it. It looks nice as a show piece, but it's not a practical monitor. Nor is the 22" QWUXGA (3840x2400) IBM T221 sitting on the desk next to it or the 37" 1920x1080 Westinghouse on the desk across the isle.

But, yeah, my comments must be because I feel inadequate.
 
Stereodude said:
Uh... if you say so...

I have a 30" Apple Cinema display at work and my comments are from firsthand experience with it. It looks nice as a show piece, but it's not a practical monitor. Nor is the 22" QWUXGA (3840x2400) IBM T221 sitting on the desk next to it or the 37" 1920x1080 Westinghouse on the desk across the isle.

But, yeah, my comments must be because I feel inadequate.
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dude you would be so right if you were talking about the Apple. Like I said I had a 23" Apple (that you can see in my pic). It sucked for my purposes. You could ONLY use it at 1900 by 1200. The pic was all garbled at ANY other resolution so you could not even see what was on screen. With the Dell, you can see at more than one resolution.

I am sorry if it seems we are flaming you. Your post came off rather arrogant in diismissing others' ability to make a choice based on their needs. I thnk you should offer everyone a group hug ;) Well, a manly group hug.
:eek: Hands above the waist please.
 
DarthBeavis said:
I thnk you should offer everyone a group hug ;) Well, a manly group hug.
:eek: Hands above the waist please.
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After that we'll order some strippers and get drunk.
 
Stereodude said:
Uh... if you say so...

I have a 30" Apple Cinema display at work and my comments are from firsthand experience with it. It looks nice as a show piece, but it's not a practical monitor. Nor is the 22" QWUXGA (3840x2400) IBM T221 sitting on the desk next to it or the 37" 1920x1080 Westinghouse on the desk across the isle.

But, yeah, my comments must be because I feel inadequate.
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My point is, it is not practicle for you given your means. Its perfectly suited to me for gaming and the uses that i purchased it for. I don;t see how what you utilize at work or what is on the desk next to you has any relevance to your commments regarding the usefullness of the 3007 to people whom have purchased it.
 
Stereodude said:
The Dell 3007 is a generally worthless monitor, just like the 30" Apple Cinema display that shares the same LG.Philips LCD panel. They only take 2 resolutions. 1280x800 and 2560x1600.
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You are wrong. Before making statments like that you should actually use one for more than 5 minutes, then you would realise that it can run any virtually resolution, it's just that the default dell monitor drivers don't add all the in-between resolutions. Add them manually with the nvidia drivers and it can run whatever res you want.
 
thisisglen said:
You are wrong. Before making statments like that you should actually use one for more than 5 minutes, then you would realise that it can run any virtually resolution, it's just that the default dell monitor drivers don't add all the in-between resolutions. Add them manually with the nvidia drivers and it can run whatever res you want.
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Pwned.
 
thisisglen said:
You are wrong. Before making statments like that you should actually use one for more than 5 minutes, then you would realise that it can run any virtually resolution, it's just that the default dell monitor drivers don't add all the in-between resolutions. Add them manually with the nvidia drivers and it can run whatever res you want.
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I am not wrong. The monitor only accepts two input resolutions on it's DVI input. If you add resolutions manually with the nVidia drivers the video card is doing the scaling, not the monitor.
 
Stereodude said:
I am not wrong. The monitor only accepts two input resolutions on it's DVI input. If you add resolutions manually with the nVidia drivers the video card is doing the scaling, not the monitor.
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Please, show the tech doc that limits the monitor. Because even with native res, the video card scales.
 
serbiaNem said:
Please, show the tech doc that limits the monitor. Because even with native res, the video card scales.
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Look at: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/pro...fp?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=specstab#tabtop

Factory Preset Resolution Modes
-VESA, 1280 x 800 (49.31 kHz Horizontal, 59.91 Hz Vertical)
-VESA, 2560 x 1600 (98.71 kHz Horizontal, 59.97 Hz Vertical)

By contrast the FP2001 says:

Factory Preset Resolution Modes: 720x400 @ 70.1 Hz, 640x480 @ 59.9 Hz, 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 800x600 @ 60.3 Hz, 800x600 @ 75 Hz, 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 1024x768 @ 75 Hz, 1152x864 @ 75 Hz, 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz, 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz, 1600x1200 @ 60 Hz

Hmm... I wonder if this means the 3007 can't accept as many formats on the DVI input as the FP2001?
 
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