QuantumSlip said:
I don't know how cheap you want it, but this is my RAM and it's at 260HTT 1:1 1T, 2.5-3-3-7, 2.85v.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820148007
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I don't know how cheap you want it, but this is my RAM and it's at 260HTT 1:1 1T, 2.5-3-3-7, 2.85v.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820148007
grendelrt said:Well i dont remember doing that, and I dont see it in add/remove, so I am going to assume it isnt there lol. Thanks for the help
but u still didn't resolve ur problem
why dont u tell us what stuff locks up and when.
does it lock up just in benchmarking.
have you ran memtest x86 off the cd?
is this a fresh install.
give us a little input and we can help u out.
marley1 said:
Yeah I ran Memtest, Prime, 3DMark05,06 all run fine. I just found some posts about my ram and the board not liking each other, which is super since they are both like 4 months old. Some people resolved their problem by running in 2T. I am giving that a try tonight, hopefully it wont be crash-rific. My main lockups and reboots are during EQ2. Which I will be playing tonight =)
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check the sig, this mobo is a great value, as is the combo
i initially bought a set of v1.0 TCCD OCZ Plat. Rev.2 2x512 memory, and it wouldn't even run 1T at 2-2-2-5 at stock 200Mhz no matter what i tweaked, change to 2T, and all ran smooth, so i sold it and got a set of Curcial Ballistix 2x512, which according to the evga forums has been the most compatible and best overclocker in this board, running strong at 2.5-2-2-6 1T @ 250Mhz @ 3.05vdimm
the thing i havent figured out, is that the memory controller is in the CPU in this case, what is it about that mobo or chipset maybe that borks 1T and TCCD?
the way i look at it, i paid $135 for this mobo, the going price, and only paid $240 roughly for my 7800GT which by the way, is one of the fastest 7800GT's on air i have seen, did 530/1260 out of the box
i initially bought a set of v1.0 TCCD OCZ Plat. Rev.2 2x512 memory, and it wouldn't even run 1T at 2-2-2-5 at stock 200Mhz no matter what i tweaked, change to 2T, and all ran smooth, so i sold it and got a set of Curcial Ballistix 2x512, which according to the evga forums has been the most compatible and best overclocker in this board, running strong at 2.5-2-2-6 1T @ 250Mhz @ 3.05vdimm
the thing i havent figured out, is that the memory controller is in the CPU in this case, what is it about that mobo or chipset maybe that borks 1T and TCCD?
the way i look at it, i paid $135 for this mobo, the going price, and only paid $240 roughly for my 7800GT which by the way, is one of the fastest 7800GT's on air i have seen, did 530/1260 out of the box
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mash said:Habitual, what temps are you getting on your opteron
yeah thats it, let me show you what i did since i dont trust mobo sensors
now, before anyone goes saying "you ruined it!!!", i checked temps before and after, so i had a control, and temps were not affected as far as the heatsinks ability to get rid of heat, the hole looks big in the pic, but don't let the macro mode closeup fool you, thats a 3/32" hole, i didnt end up using the bit in the one pic, and no, the thermal probe is not suspended in the silicone adhesive, it was just used to seal the hole and hold it in place, the probe is naked inside that tiny hole all by itself, all the heat is trapped
ok..........
Vantec NXT-101 came today
so i got to looking at how much surface area there is to stick the temp probe on either the heatspreader of the CPU or the HSF base.........not enough.....
so i got one of those wild hairs and did this..........(if you are on 56k, you are gonna be hating me right about now....)
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0704.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0708.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0710.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0707.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0709.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0713.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0715.JPG
http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05514/DSCF0717.JPG
TADA!
results:
MyGuard, the software solution for this motherboard is reading 19*c right now, room temp is 12.7*c, and temp probe is reading 23*c
ran two 1M SuperPi calculations back to back and MyGuard saw a max load temp of 38*c, temp probe, 28*c
also stuck the other two temp probes, one right at the video card fan intake, reading 16*c, the other near the top of the case reads 16*c as well
inspired by this article
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1845
also, those were the results when i had my Opty 150, my Opty 165 runs a good 5*c cooler, i havent seen it hit over 44*c on the temp probe even running two instances of Prime 95 small FFT's for 6+ hours
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awsome mod habitual, even better posting withs pics and all . how much is your bios reading off from you mod temps?
. how much is your bios reading off from you mod temps?When using the board with an aftermarket cooler. Do you have to use the yellow bracket on the front. When I used it, I was not getting good contact with the cpu. Now i'm just using the backplate and no bracket on the front( just screwing down the heatsink onto the cpu. im using apogee w/c block.)
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JJXtraKill said:awsome mod habitual, even better posting withs pics and all
thanks bro!
it varies from 2 to 10 degrees, quite alot, just goes to show how bad the sensors can be
_maul_ said:
Okay, my first post in this thread after a couple of weeks with this mobo. It's my first build and my first attempt at OCing so I'm taking it slow. But I have run into the exact same problem as _maul_ here. Using Eclipse's OC guide I run into a wall at 220Mhz HTT after lowering my HT multi (2x or 400Mhz), CPU (5x on an 11x stock Opteron 148) and RAM at 100Mhz. While running Prime 95, once I attempt to clock anything above 219 my system freezes and forces a manual reboot. When I tried to do a solid HTT boost to 220 in the BIOS (keeping all the other lowered settings) the system wouldn't even get to the BIOS selection screen during boot. I had to do another hard CMOS reset.
Some people replied to _maul_'s post with guggestions of raising NB voltage. Is this advisable at all? Should I try a higher HT multi? I got the damn Opteron for the "free" speed found in OCing it, I'd hate to find my first bottleneck is the silly motherboard HTT limit. Oddly enough, when I ran nTune's own automatic OC applet, it found 231Mhz to be stable, and at a 1:1 RAM ratio as well. But when I rebooted to BIOS and attempted to set this manually, the system wouldn't even POST at start up; I had to do a hard CMOS reset just to get her going again.
Any help would be much appreciated, I did a search in the thread and came up blank. I got this motherboard in the combo deal (who hasn't, right) and while I'm glad I basically only paid $50 for it, I won't really settle for a HTT bottleneck at such a slow speed. My basic Corsair XMS memory is going to be my bottleneck, dammit, even if I have to get a DFI LP to prove it!
Oh yeah, can anyone tell me why every diagnostic program (SiSandra, CPU-Z etc...) tells me my memory is running at 3-3-3-8 when the BIOS tells me I'm at, like, 2.5-4-2-8 1T? I'm confused. Are these other programs just repeating what the "stock" speeds are for my memory at 200Mhz HTT, not the actual timings? Is the BIOS right, no matter what? I'd think so, but it's fracking weird.
TIA
noahabel said:
Let me ask you this, have you tried overclocking at default multipier? I always try to see what the cpu will do at default (yours is 11, so is my San Diego). I was able to go 1:1 on my 3700 up to 245HTT. Here's what I would try:
Set everything back to default.
Manually set HT to 800.
Manually set RAM to 2.5-3-3-7 2T, 2.85v.
Go slowly upwards and check RAM with Memtest (test 5 & 8).
If you pass 250HTT then set HT to 600.
See how far that 11 multiplier will take you. Then try a 10 multiplier to see if you can go higher. I don't know if that Corsair con go much higher than 220, you may need to use a memory divider. Remember that RAM compatibility is the weak point in the NF41. Not every brand will break 250HTT and some can't even do 1T at stock. Good luck.
noahabel said:
Are you running with the memory 1:1? Try running it at a ratio and see what happens. It seems like its your memory that is hitting a wall at 220mhz... which isnt a big deal because you can just run a ratio without a whole lot of performance loss. Ive run my opteron at 290X10 with this board, running my memory at a ratio putting it a 241mhz.
No, you read it right: I'm at 100Mhz (1:2).acroig said:
Acroig, the only time I tried to OC at stock multiplier was a)when using the nTune applet which took me to 231MHz (verified by several programs, but the HTT returned to 200 at restart); and b) when I attempted to up the BIOS HTT to 230 based on the nTune recommendation - which resulted in a total failure at post. HOWEVER, I did nothing at that point with the HT ratio (which, I'm assuming, was set to "auto" and either jumped to 1155 or stayed at 1000Mhz) and did not apply a multiplier to the RAM (and possibly left it at CAS2.5 and 1T, I can't remember what it was at that point). I also upped Vcore at that point to...1.55 I beleive.
I will take a stab at your advice, and will loosen my memory timings as well. I was basically following Eclipse's guide and was stumped at the first step - finding my board's max HTT. I'm assuming that my stepping should allow me to hit at least 2.8Ghz for my Opty, and I was never going to push my memory anywhere close to that, maybe ~210 on a 5:6 divider (166Mhz, right?). I'm already looking to replace my memory with a pair of 1GB sticks, DDR500 minimum, maybe OCZ Gold Gamer or Mushkin XP Black. I kind of goofed on the memory purchase, it was the one item I kind of passively selected based on Corsair's reputation and the fact that it was XMS not Value. Live and learn.
The only real bright spot, so far, is that my Zalman is keeping my opty at ~40c under load. I hope this gives me some real room to maneuver that chip up the charts. I have yet to see one report of an OC on my stepping, I hope to be the first.
I'll let the thread know what I come up with. Wish me luck and thanks for the help.
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Has anyone run a 170 opteron on this board? I don't want to get my hopes up to high but I plan to shoot for 2.7ghz so that would mean I need to have an HTT of 270 for this CPU. Are there any issues running the HTT at such a high level for these mobos? ALso I have 2 gigs of crucial value ram that is limited to 2.5-3-3-8 200mhz or something in that area which means I will need to run a divider. Are there any issues I should expect to arise using this MOBO?
Thanks and I appreciate any advice
Thanks and I appreciate any advice
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peacetilence said:
no problem with mine, doing 300Mhz now, 6+ hours dual Prime small FFT's stable
check the evga forums about memory issues
acroig said:Best wishes from one overclocker to another!
again, check the evga forums, i didnt read all of the lengthy replies....but if you are trying to run Samsung TCCD based IC's and/or a 1T command rate, thats likely the issue, i had a brand new set of OCZ Plat Rev2 TCCD sticks and the system would not even run stable at all stock speeds/settings with the memory at 2-2-2-5 1T @ 200Mhz which is stock for that memory, the only thing that would work was to change to a 2T command rate, which dropped memory bandwidth +/-1000Mb/sec
Crucial Ballistix with it's Micron IC's work the best in these boards, sold my Plat Rev 2 and got a set and now running 250Mhz 2.5-2-2-6 1T @ 2.85v .....100% stable
So far, so good. Got up to 255 HTT @ 1.45 Vcore and my memory at ~211Mhz and 3-3-3-7 1T @ 2.85V. I'm running 2 Prime95s now (one small, one large/in-place) for 2 hours. I'll leave it overnight.acroig said:Best wishes from one overclocker to another!
But when I tried to get above 255 I was getting Prime errors, even at 2T and an even more lax divider (133Mhz). Do I need to up the Vcore more or am I hitting my Opty's ceiling (~2850Mhz)? I was hoping for 3Ghz, but maybe I'm being greedy.
Also, my HT is above 1000 right now on a 4x multi (1020Mhz). Is this safe or should I always keep it below 1000?
misenthrope said:
Coincidentally the same happened to me. OCZ Platinum Rev 2; 2x512 would not do stock speeds at 1T. Fortunately I had Crucial Ballistix from another build so I simply exchanged the DIMMS. It's too bad because those OCZ do 300HTT + on my in-law's PC at 1T.
noahabel said:
HT should be OK, but you are trying to go higher so I would lower it to 600 for now. You may be running into your cpu's limits. Raise the vcore SLOWLY (.25v at a time) higher see if the Prime errors go away. Remember, the mem cotroller is on the cpu so that could be it.
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I finally figured out my damn instability with this board. Would Occt and prime fine but some other things would crash @265htt. Must change ht bus from auto to 600. Fixed all my problems. Now running my 3200 @ 265x10 for 2650 and ocz value vx @ 5/6 divider for 220 for 2-2-2-6-2t at 3.0 volts. 7800gt @ 500/1180. I wish I could run 1t but it will not at even 200fsb.
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briman1001 said:
well yeah, you never want your total to go over 1000Mhz HTT, being under 1000 is fine too, it really doesn't affect performance at all
so 265Mhz CPU * 5 was 1325Mhz HTT, its a wonder it even posted
at 200-250Mhz CPU set HTT x4(800Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...250*4=1000
at 250-300Mhz CPU set HTT x3(600Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...300*3=900
at 300-350Mhz CPU set HTT x2(400Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...350*2=700
matter of fact, i have run a 3x HTT multi at 200Mhz CPU and it made no difference, but as a general rule of thumb, you just dont want to go over 1000 for maximum stability
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as far as the TCCD/1T thing on the NF41......i still haven't figured that out yet, there a a few GSkill sets that seem to work fine, but 99% of TCCD doesn't work well at 1T cmd rate
what makes it most confusing is that should be a memory controller issue......and that is in the CPU on A64's, so the board shouldn't matter....
misenthrope said:well yeah, you never want your total to go over 1000Mhz HTT, being under 1000 is fine too, it really doesn't affect performance at all
so 265Mhz CPU * 5 was 1325Mhz HTT, its a wonder it even posted
at 200-250Mhz CPU set HTT x4(800Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...250*4=1000
at 250-300Mhz CPU set HTT x3(600Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...300*3=900
at 300-350Mhz CPU set HTT x2(400Mhz in NF41 BIOS)...350*2=700
matter of fact, i have run a 3x HTT multi at 200Mhz CPU and it made no difference, but as a general rule of thumb, you just dont want to go over 1000 for maximum stability
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as far as the TCCD/1T thing on the NF41......i still haven't figured that out yet, there a a few GSkill sets that seem to work fine, but 99% of TCCD doesn't work well at 1T cmd rate
what makes it most confusing is that should be a memory controller issue......and that is in the CPU on A64's, so the board shouldn't matter....
^^^ Yes excellent notes
The Corsair MXS4400's I just sold worked at 1T as a single pair, and they would post with both pairs (at 200 htt), but wouldn't stay stable. In fact, I was unable to run them at their rated 275mhz, so I sold them. The PQI/GigaRam POS's are running fine for me. 2x1GB 2.5-4-4-8 1T. I haven't tried to tighten them as I am just now kicking my clock speeds up on the 'Hammer.
So I should get my HT below 1000 even if it's only at 1020? And it has no effect on performance? Odd.
Okay, can someone look at this cap of my MyGuard app and tell me what the hell is wrong with it and how I can fix it. I have installed it twice from 2 different sources, same result.
TIA.
Okay, can someone look at this cap of my MyGuard app and tell me what the hell is wrong with it and how I can fix it. I have installed it twice from 2 different sources, same result.
TIA.
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noahabel said:So I should get my HT below 1000 even if it's only at 1020? And it has no effect on performance? Odd.
Okay, can someone look at this cap of my MyGuard app and tell me what the hell is wrong with it and how I can fix it. I have installed it twice from 2 different sources, same result.
TIA.
its probably your monitor, are you running that LCD at native res?
and yes, you should try to stay under 1000 or no more than, but if it's prime stable and all, then dont worry, although you could make it 600Mhz for instance and it wouldnt affect performance, the A64 does not starve itself internally by design
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noahabel said:
i knew it had something to do with display settings, good find
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I've got to know: has anybody managed to get an X1800XT running on this 'board?
I've got this board and Myguard installed as well. I noticed on the above pic that the system temp is being reported as higher than the cpu (mine is the same.) I suspect the program has the 2 values reversed. Anyone know for sure if that might be the case? Thanks
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kleptik said:I've got this board and Myguard installed as well. I noticed on the above pic that the system temp is being reported as higher than the cpu (mine is the same.) I suspect the program has the 2 values reversed. Anyone know for sure if that might be the case? Thanks
that is quite normal, the "sys" temp is the PWM Mosfet circuit temp(or could be the NB, not 100% sure yet), which is the IC's that have the large heatsinks on top of them, they are the circuits that supply the power to the CPU socket itself and they always run hotter than the CPU, expecially when overclocking
misenthrope said:as far as the TCCD/1T thing on the NF41......i still haven't figured that out yet, there a a few GSkill sets that seem to work fine, but 99% of TCCD doesn't work well at 1T cmd rate
what makes it most confusing is that should be a memory controller issue......and that is in the CPU on A64's, so the board shouldn't matter....
Not only that. I've compared the memory timings that we cannot change on the NF41 with my in-law's DFI Ultra using A64 Tweaker and his were quite different from ours (more relaxed if I remember correctly). I believe this is why TCCD RAM and others don't work well with the NF41. I wish the BIOS gave us the same RAM tweaking options as the DFI boards!
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when i turn on my computer my cpu fan starts spinning at ungodly rpm's and stays that way. speed fan doesnt show me the fan controls like it did on my old computer. is there anyway i can turn this down in bios or a program?
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xxxchris03xxx said:
yes, it is adjustable in the BIOS, by default it is set to 100%
and use the NF4 MyGuard program from Jetway's website to monitor things(the NF41 evga board is made by Jetway), get rid of speedfan
just got mine finally up and running with my new hard drives. so far so good. installing steam and some other stuff right now so not gamed with it yet.
boots pretty fast. 2 quick questions, it posts so fast that i dont see dual channel on,,, will it say and easily be read as my old nf2 did? i put them in both the yellow ram slots.
i bought 2 sata2 western digital drives, where would i check to see if ncq is on? drawing a blank at the moment.
my wiring is a mess, i kept all the ram, cpu, and video card are free of wires, but the bottom of the case looks like snakes wrestling, and similiar at the top. took some pics yesterday, might take some more today,
boots pretty fast. 2 quick questions, it posts so fast that i dont see dual channel on,,, will it say and easily be read as my old nf2 did? i put them in both the yellow ram slots.
i bought 2 sata2 western digital drives, where would i check to see if ncq is on? drawing a blank at the moment.
my wiring is a mess, i kept all the ram, cpu, and video card are free of wires, but the bottom of the case looks like snakes wrestling, and similiar at the top. took some pics yesterday, might take some more today,