Opteron 170 or 165?

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coletrickle

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I am allready going over my budget a little for a 165 but is it worth the extra cash for a 170.
What results can I expect OCed for each on air with my Zalman 9500?

Thanks for your help.
 
If you are on a budget then go for the 165. I'm sure you can hit 2.4-2.6 with a good stepping.
 
coletrickle said:
I am allready going over my budget a little for a 165 but is it worth the extra cash for a 170.
What results can I expect OCed for each on air with my Zalman 9500?

Thanks for your help.
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165 and 170 will OC generally about the same depending on stepping/week info.

I'd say 2.4 is pretty much a lock. 2.5-2.7 is average. 2.7+ is good for dual core.
 
I think I seen somewhere a retailer that will state the week and steeping info, any ideas?
What should I be looking for?

Thanks again.
 
get the opty 165..similar ocs can be attained from both of them and the divider issue is not really worth spending the extra money on..
 
www.tankguys.biz tells you the week stepping. See what's available then search in google. That's what I'd do. Probably not a lot of info on newer steppings though.
 
The 170 has the benefit of the 10x multiplier and a 200MHz head start. If you have the money, go for the 170, as you won't need to stress your motherboard with a 300+ HTT to get past 2.7GHz.
 
i suppose bona...to the op what motherboard do you have? theres no point getting an opteron if u dont oc and the best general oc'ing boards are dfi..
 
hm...i would recommend a dfi ultra-d if your gna use one card or a dfi sli-d if youre going to go sli..they should hit above 320 on fsb which on a opty 165 with good stepping + cooling i around 2,880 mhz (2.88ghz) or on a good opty 170 around 3.2ghz :)
 
I'd go with the 165 if you're on a budget, they seem to net about the same OCs if not more ( i have a buddy who has a 175 and it woln't go past 2.6 >< where as my 165 is stable at 2.8), u do have the extra multi on the 170 but if you really don't need a 110 multi get the 165 its cheaper and OC pretty damned well too.

As for ram i'd get some TCCD for sure, if u plan to run your mem 1:1 with your proc on a 165 then ur gonna need some nice ram too. All depends on exactlly what u plan on doing with your rig. ;)
 
Extra $100 for the CPU or extra $20 for a motherboard that runs a high HTT. I went 165 and DFI and it works fine.
 
Thought this was similar enough to post in the same thread.

The X2 3800+ is 2.0 Ghz stock w/ 512x2 cache, $321
The Opteron is 1.8 Ghz stock w/ 1MB x2 cache, $325.

I'm leaning toward the Opteron, as my experience has taught me that "cache" is king, and Mhz doesn't matter as much anymore.

Whaddyathink?
 
waldo22 said:
I'm leaning toward the Opteron, as my experience has taught me that "cache" is king, and Mhz doesn't matter as much anymore.

Whaddyathink?
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Well, maybe with a 128k sempron or celeron, but that is the opposite of the truth in A64 land. As long as you have a decent amount of cache (512k per core being enough), clockspeed is more important.

That being said, for the price, I'd get the opteron since they OC well. Cache is kind of a "bonus."
 
i think that having the extra cache will help but not make or break you, it'll depend on the OC u can squeeze out of the chip and typically the optys are Ocin beter ANd they have more cache win win situation if u ask me lol!
 
For memory id recommend g.skill the hz versions would be best if you have enough money...
 
depends how much you want 10x, if you have a really good mobo it wont matter
 
I have my 165 running @ 2.4 keeping my FSB 1:1. My Gskill pc4000 memory runs stable up to 267, with a divider i'm sure I could get it higher if I wanted.

And I got my opty for $316 shipped... now I see zzf raised the price to $333.. :confused:
 
After some Fiddling around w/ some added volts, loosening my Ram Timings to 3.3.3.7, dropping to a 3 x HTT Multi currently running my Opty170 CCBWE 0543 TPMW 10X 270 FSB = 2.7Ghz CPU-Z Val Here => http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=66259 I would recommend going w/ the Opty 170 as well just make sure ALL of your components can handle O/C as well YMMV, Hope that helps :)
 
Opty 170 for the win!

I don't have a 165 but after finding the max on my chip being 2.8xx @ 1.54v rock solid I started downclocking to see what I could get.

Well I got a pretty good fx-60 here.
2.6ghz @ stock voltage, actually less 1.34v but still.

I haven't seen many 165's do this high a clock at this low a voltage.
Machine also does 800mhz @ .74v on passive cooling and 1ghz @ .8v passive as well.
I've been having fun with this guy lately :)
 
as far as differences in the cpu:
165 = 9x multi
170 = 10x multi

end of story.
 
seachus said:
Opty 170 for the win!

I don't have a 165 but after finding the max on my chip being 2.8xx @ 1.54v rock solid I started downclocking to see what I could get.

Well I got a pretty good fx-60 here.
2.6ghz @ stock voltage, actually less 1.34v but still.

I haven't seen many 165's do this high a clock at this low a voltage.
Machine also does 800mhz @ .74v on passive cooling and 1ghz @ .8v passive as well.
I've been having fun with this guy lately :)
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the guy that told me about the CCB1E stepping 165's doing so well has his running 2.5 @ 1.2v Prime stable
 
Yeah 800mhz running 3dmark06 with 4 instances of prime and super pi in the backround made the cpu tests suck. I think I got like 20 frames in one of the tests total and like 30 in the second one. I thought it had froze cause the frame rate was soooo sloooooow.

Was kinda cool though to have a nearly silent pc that still had way more power than all my previous computers combined.

I haven't tried 2.5 yet to see how low a voltage I can run that at, that will be this weekend as I am slowly filling out my 3d graph on this cpu.

CPU SPEED
VOLTAGE
TEMPURATURE

I know its very exponential above 2.6 cause I've already done 2.7 and 2.8, but I don't know how far down that exponential curve goes till it become linear at the low end... that takes time.
 
This battle could go either way. As for me I simply would go with the opteron 165 because I do not want to spend too much money on this generation of processors at the time.
 
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