T1 vs DSL (3Mbit)

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....so I called up a company that rigged the building (where I bought my apartment in) and they told me that building has a T1 line and customers will get on average 1.5Mbit download and Upload.

If I am not mistaken the T1 line will be shared with the others customers in the building, if the sign up with the same company.

Wondering though if I should sign up with them or get Bellsouth DSL 3Mbit (can't get the Extreme :( )


Any suggestions?
 
If it is what you say it is then you are correct. You would probably be sharing the T1 with anyone else who hooks up to it. I would definately get the BellSouth DSL since it will give you more bandwidth and flexibilty in terms of your Internet connection.

Ryan
 
yeah it will be shared. and if one person starts bittorrenting or downloading iso's, your going to get pissed.

I would sign up with your own dedicated line.
 
T1 would have the same upload as download and better support, supposedly. Get the DSL.
 
As far as I know, nowadays the only reason to have a T1 line is for its uptime guarantees (DSL can take a week to repair, T1's are done in an hour or less!) and quality of service guarantees.

I'd get my own private DSL line in your residence, then you won't have any TOS except your providers.
 
rtierney said:
T1's are only 1.54Mbits and usually very expensive for their relatively slow speed.
3Mbit DSL is the obvious winner here (speed, cost), unless I'm overlooking a reason that would make the T1 more useful than DSL.
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Not that many DSL or Cable providers are able to match 1.5Mbits upload speed of a T1, that's why they are so expensive and still very widely used.

DSL is mostly marketed for home users and small companies, T1's are in a whole another league as not that many people are willing to shell out $500/month up to $900/month depending on your location from the central office. To a company though it is worth it as was said above, solid connection can be worth millions as can quick support response.
 
For home use, I'd say hit the DSL. T1's, in my experience, are more for businesses that need quality dedicated connections to offsite servers or whatever.
 
Are you able to try out the T and see how it is? We don't know how many people are sharing this T-1, and what kind of use it gets. Do you know if it's a full T-1? Or a fractional?

There's more to it than just comparing raw throughput. How far are you from the CO? With the DSL, will you actually get 3 megs?

If I had a choice for myself, I'd take a full T over a 3 meg DSL line...but not knowing how many are sharing....and what they're doing....
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
Are you able to try out the T and see how it is? We don't know how many people are sharing this T-1, and what kind of use it gets. Do you know if it's a full T-1? Or a fractional?

There's more to it than just comparing raw throughput. How far are you from the CO? With the DSL, will you actually get 3 megs?

If I had a choice for myself, I'd take a full T over a 3 meg DSL line...but not knowing how many are sharing....and what they're doing....
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I agree, give me upload or give me death. Depending on the circumstances of course(as stated above).
 
:D

well, there are 128 units in the building. I suppose at least half of the owners hooked up their internet connection using this company that provides the T1 line.

In the apartment documents it does not states clearly that you can choose any other ISPs, but rather says that "this company" provides the internet connection.

I could post a link to the company's website if you guy would like to see it....
dont know if it is against the rules though....
 
OP is not going to be paying for the T1

Get the DSL. You might have worse upload, but unless I OWN the t1, I'm not going to be happy. You have the carrier, then the building's net-admin in layers of troubleshooting, versus the DSL company only.

Who are you going to talk to at 2am when the internet goes down? The telco for that t1? Nope, They wont give you the time of day because you are not the responsible party for that service. If they did give you the time of day, would you have access to the smartjack and router and circuit info? Heck no, its the building management's responsibility.

Get the DSL.
 
speakeasy onelink dsl or their sdsl also guarantees uptime
if you can get them definately do, great support
 
randyc said:
As far as I know, nowadays the only reason to have a T1 line is for its uptime guarantees (DSL can take a week to repair, T1's are done in an hour or less!) and quality of service guarantees.

I'd get my own private DSL line in your residence, then you won't have any TOS except your providers.
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Quality of Service and response time to outages are 100% dependent on the SLA you have with your provider. It's possible, though unlikely, to have equivalent serivice arrangements with DSL.
 
BobSutan said:
Quality of Service and response time to outages are 100% dependent on the SLA you have with your provider. It's possible, though unlikely, to have equivalent serivice arrangements with DSL.
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True true.

I probably should have worded what I said around those words ;-)

-randyc
 
We have a T1 at work...probably has ~25 people on it.......I can speed test all day at 1450/1450.... I would love that uplaod at home, I have about ~800...but you can keep the download :)


BTW its a car dealership, so its just people surfing and pulling credit reports....plenty of bandwith for that.....
 
I'd go with the DSL as well. As nice as T1 uploads are, it'll probably make you go insane as soon as one guy in the building starts up bittorrent... Unless your manager is smart enough to provide a form of QoS routing...
 
I would take a T1 over DSL...
Although DSL may offer better bandwidth/throughput(or user perceived 'speed'), a T1 will offer a much higher degree of lower actual speed(latency - response) and overall quality of service. T1s come with an SLA (service level agreement) and are bound to Federal regulations regarding service.
 
j4zzee said:
I would take a T1 over DSL...
Although DSL may offer better bandwidth/throughput(or user perceived 'speed'), a T1 will offer a much higher degree of lower actual speed(latency - response) and overall quality of service. T1s come with an SLA (service level agreement) and are bound to Federal regulations regarding service.
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did you miss the part where this t1 would be shared with possibly hundreds of other tennants? no way in hell with that kind of load his experience on the t1 is going to be better than dsl. sure he might get slightly latency to major backbones with the t1, but the latency won't the bandwith constraints (both the allocation of 1.54mbit & sharing it between lots of users) for a home connection. I have a T1 at work and comcast 6mb service at home. For my home connection I'll take comcast any day for speed, even if I do suffer more frequent downtime than I do at work.
 
Double-tap , da-sponge? :D

As for the SLA, the OP won't have that luxury since he's not paying for it ;)
 
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