Gmail's blocked here! how to get around that?

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dwayne001

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OK, so I'm working in this place and I'm dying to check my email...but they locked out the site. I tried a host of other sites in which you can check you pop enabled accounts, but I'm figuring the firewall here's plocked out all the pop ports, so if it's trying to pull off any kind of access through normal pop channels it's gonna be useless.

What I'm hoping is that someone out there knows of a VNC like website that emulates the web...basically, i'd be going out through that. I'm confident that I can get around this issue and check my mail....without causing any trouble.

I'd get over it and go to an internet cafe or something during lunch but unfort, there are none around here. That and I can't pay starbucks $30/mo for their hotspot. That's ridiculous.
 
Try hamachi

http://www.hamachi.cc/


Its a zero configure VPN client system which does not require port forwarding. You can then VNC into your home box through this, and use that to check your email.
 
that's beside the point. I can't get messages from prospective employers, gumming up my ability to aggrandize, you know, do the boot strap pull up thing. I need to communicate.
 
it's simple

1) quit your job
2) go home and check your email
3) learn how to say "would you like fries with that?" and apply at McDonnalds.

Problem solved.


The only legal advice I can give you is to buy an iPAQ 6325, get t-mobile account, unlimited internet access and have your POP mail forwarded over their GPRS link right into your iPAQ, problem solved !
 
Can you forward your gmail to a hotmail account?

BTW asking questions about circumventing network security is against the rules here.

 
dwayne001 said:
that's beside the point. I can't get messages from prospective employers, gumming up my ability to aggrandize, you know, do the boot strap pull up thing. I need to communicate.

no it's not beside the point, you shouldn't be checking prospective employers from work anyway :rolleyes:

Communicate your feelings to your boss ASAP!! he'll really appreciate your honesty
 
Noobs....

If you could help, that'd be helpful. Otherwise, save your keystrokes.
 
dwayne001 said:
Noobs....

If you could help, that'd be helpful. Otherwise, save your keystrokes.

If you could only read and comprehend the world would be a better place.
 
I'm contracting...I'm consulting here. They group I'm working with is pissed that I can't get out to check my messages. It's not a management issue. It's a crap security issue. Like I said noob, help or save your keystrokes.


EaTeR said:
no it's not beside the point, you shouldn't be checking prospective employers from work anyway :rolleyes:

Communicate your feelings to your boss ASAP!! he'll really appreciate your honesty
 
Hey folks, this dude is either a troll or an idiot ( or an idiot troll ).

Either way, he's been given his answer ( it's against the rule ), so let's not feed the trolls.
 
well then let me tell you then as I am far from a n00bie

first off work put security in place. Who the hell are you to circumvent it? Just another peon and nothing else. You work by THIER rules not they employ you by your rules. Don't like it? Quit and find another job. Nice thing about at-will employement. No need to give a reason why you took off.

As the other poster stated. Get your OWN internet on your phone and have at it. But hoping to get by thier security by one of us helping you. Yah, right.
 
dwayne001 said:
I'm contracting...I'm consulting here. They group I'm working with is pissed that I can't get out to check my messages. It's not a management issue. It's a crap security issue. Like I said noob, help or save your keystrokes.

right, because someone who hires a consultant really gives a flying F about that said consultant communicating to other prospective employers, lmao. Nice story you got there.

Shouldn't have bought that cheap-ass axim POS PDA, get a PDA/Phone and your problems would be solved like I suggested above, but that's once again when your inability to read and comprehend comes into play.

Have a nice day :D

PS: I find the image of a "consultant" that repeatedly posts "noobs" absolutely hilarious, thanks for the entertainment.
 
XOR != OR said:
Hey folks, this dude is either a troll or an idiot ( or an idiot troll ).

Either way, he's been given his answer ( it's against the rule ), so let's not feed the trolls.

trolls need to eat too !
 
XOR != OR said:
Hey folks, this dude is either a troll or an idiot ( or an idiot troll ).

Either way, he's been given his answer ( it's against the rule ), so let's not feed the trolls.


Wow, I thought you'd be able to see the spirit of the issue. I'm not trolling, I just didn't appreciate being dismissed by someone new to the forum. Trolls tend to use curses and strong lang-- I'm just trying to see if there's a java web emulator within out there that would be hlpful to me is all. Please, a little respect. I don't think I deserved that idiot comment.

As for talking to other potential clients....the group heree realises it stands to benefit by making certain partners.

And if it were a case of just using my treo, that'd be great-- but it's not-- there's no reception in this bunker they work in.
 
dwayne001 said:
Wow, I thought you'd be able to see the spirit of the issue. I'm not trolling, I just didn't appreciate being dismissed by someone new to the forum. Trolls tend to use curses and strong lang-- I'm just trying to see if there's a java web emulator within out there that would be hlpful to me is all. Please, a little respect. I don't think I deserved that idiot comment.


well unfortunatly you made a mistake that you should never ever do. Did not read the forum rules.

so because i am feeling nice. i will help you with such a task.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=935081

Q. How do I bypass/circumvent my school, work, or service provider's firewall/proxy/security?

You don't! Those types of devices are in place for a reason and if you choose to attempt to go around them you merely open yourself up to being expelled/fired.

Keep in mind that (a.) many people who frequent this forum are network administrators who's job it is to monitor and maintain the networks you guys use, and (b.) it opens the forum owners up to legal action should something illegal happen with help from this forum.

Should you have a truly legitimate reason for raw access to the web you must ask your network administrators for permission. Period.


http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1026346800#post1026346800

Before anyone asks, no we do not discuss how to bypass security policies, firewalls, etc

thank you and have a good day
 
The problem's solved-- they allocated an email account to me, on their imap.

If someone had come through with the rule at the get-go, the antagonism wouldn't have had to ensue.

Really, all someone had to do was post the link or say, dude, check the rules, no can do...rather than 'circumventing security's a no-no.'

You know I wasn't trying to be malicious.
 
dwayne001 said:
I'm contracting...I'm consulting here.
It's people like you that almost always infect us, and then it's generally because we can't limit you like we can our machines. It's rarely one of our PCs that is the point of infection. Even if it wasn't against the rules here I still wouldn't help you because I know what kind of PIA this causes for the network admins.

They group I'm working with is pissed that I can't get out to check my messages. It's not a management issue. It's a crap security issue.
Have the department you are working for contact the IT group. Let *THEM* solve *THEIR* own issues. You, as a contractor, will do very good to stay out of this disagreement between management and IT.

EDIT: just read the above reply. The FIRST post in this thread told you it was a no-no, it's a no-no here, and it's a no-no at the company you work for. That really doesn't require explaination. Heck the question "how do I bypass security?" itself is quite ignorant.
 
read above. the point's moot. i got an account. my checking my other account was a stop-gap/emergency thing.

The message is clear people. dead the thread.
 
Yes, I see, good. That's kinda of the point. If you contact IT they will take care of you, don't try to bypass them. ;)
 
dwayne001 said:
Wow, I thought you'd be able to see the spirit of the issue.
What spirit? You are trying to get around network policies they have implemented. End of story.
I just didn't appreciate being dismissed by someone new to the forum.
I fail to see how someone's registration date affects what they say. If what they are saying makes sense, it makes sense.
Trolls tend to use curses and strong lang
On the countrary, the most successful trolls mimic, very closely, your posting behavior.
I don't think I deserved that idiot comment.
We could put it to a vote, you'd be surprised.
 
The fact that you labeled Eater as someone unqualified to post in your thread based on his post count reflects your own lack of qualification. Contractors...I never hear anything good about contracted IT.
 
Met-AL said:
The fact that you labeled Eater as someone unqualified to post in your thread based on his post count reflects your own lack of qualification. Contractors...I never hear anything good about contracted IT.


you never dealt with me then ;)

though i don't contract anymore i have contracted in the past.
 
dwayne001 said:
If someone had come through with the rule at the get-go, the antagonism wouldn't have had to ensue.
IanG said:
BTW asking questions about circumventing network security is against the rules here.

That was eight minutes after your OP.

If it's big, green, lives under a bridge and posts on [H]Forum, what is it?

 
LOL...it is funny to see how scared people are of "supposed" lawsuits/legal action nowadays.

It is cool they you have a "no circumnavigating" rule but at least be honest about it...fear of legal action is miniscule...NO ONE has ever been charged with ever giving technical advice on how to do it that I am aware of.

If that were the case SANS, SecurityFocus, etc. would all be closing down shop.

Also, as someone who has worked both sides (as network admin and as joe user) most of the time the "rules" are more for convenience of the IT staff then security.

Hell if it were TRULY security then the IT staff would be under the same rules but most of the time it is not.

Again...this forum is free to chose its own rules...but at least be honest about it.
 
i was going to give you a solution almost gaurenteed to work but now I shall not.

dwayne001 said:
Noobs....

If you could help, that'd be helpful. Otherwise, save your keystrokes.
 
r0cketrider said:
LOL...it is funny to see how scared people are of "supposed" lawsuits/legal action nowadays.

It is cool they you have a "no circumnavigating" rule but at least be honest about it...fear of legal action is miniscule
And yet, it's still valid. How much would you think an average lawsuit would cost? Figure in both lawyer fees and time lost.

Several thousands of dollars for even the tiniest of cases. Now say it's a big company like Walmart bringing the suit.

However small the chance, it's easier and safer just to say "Don't talk about illegal things on the boards".
 
when people join the forums is meaningless pertaining to how valuble their information might be. There are plenty of great posters that recently registered, and theres plenty of shit posters that have been around for eons. Don't go around calling people noobs because it simply makes you look like an idiot and noone will be willing to help you.

dwayne001 said:
Wow, I thought you'd be able to see the spirit of the issue. I'm not trolling, I just didn't appreciate being dismissed by someone new to the forum. Trolls tend to use curses and strong lang-- I'm just trying to see if there's a java web emulator within out there that would be hlpful to me is all. Please, a little respect. I don't think I deserved that idiot comment.

As for talking to other potential clients....the group heree realises it stands to benefit by making certain partners.

And if it were a case of just using my treo, that'd be great-- but it's not-- there's no reception in this bunker they work in.
 
r0cketrider said:
LOL...it is funny to see how scared people are of "supposed" lawsuits/legal action nowadays.

It is cool they you have a "no circumnavigating" rule but at least be honest about it...fear of legal action is miniscule...NO ONE has ever been charged with ever giving technical advice on how to do it that I am aware of.

If that were the case SANS, SecurityFocus, etc. would all be closing down shop.

Also, as someone who has worked both sides (as network admin and as joe user) most of the time the "rules" are more for convenience of the IT staff then security.

Hell if it were TRULY security then the IT staff would be under the same rules but most of the time it is not.

Again...this forum is free to chose its own rules...but at least be honest about it.

They are honest about it, you just don't want to see it that way.

Aiding and Abetting/Accessory was a crime last I checked, but maybe that has changed :confused: will anyone ever sue owners of this site or people giving advice? probably not, you're right, but if it was me I'd protect my ass the same exact way.

I am sorry but your statements are way off the mark, in many cases IT staff cannot be under the same rules as it prevents them from doing the work (aka keeping workplace secure). You have never done that type of work if you can't understand that. There is a difference between rules applied to joe end-user and IT staff that understand implications behind every one of their actions.

what you also fail to realize that many of us are the people that put these types of rules into effect at our jobs, as a matter of fact this IS our job and helping end-users bypass our rules defeats the purpose of what we do 8-5 mon-friday. I myself have 100 end-users that I support , I am IT at this company , 4 locations , 100 end-users and I do it all from fixing printers to migrating NT 4 boxes to 2003 servers and dealing with our Cisco gear, VPN and hundred other things, last thing I want is users that can bypass my rules. Trust me on that.
 
First of all, just to be clear, so long as no fraud or malfeasance is taking place, bypassing the security of an organization to get to Gmail, read Slashdot, or post on Hardforums, is NOT a crime. It is a breach of contract perhaps, a violation of Acceptable Use Policies for sure, and can get you fired, but it is NOT a crime.

As for my statements being "off the mark", as I stated, I have done that work, I audit security for a living, and for EXTERNAL access, there is little extra that the IT staff needs over the regular staff.

Care to explain to me why the IT staff needs access to Gmail and the regular staff does not? Or how about unfettered Internet access when the regular staff is proxied? Again we are talking about external access, not internal.

Come on guys, admit it (I know I will), even if it was not required for the job, as a network admin we hold the keys to the kingdom and unless forced we will NOT place ourselves under the same restrictions as the general staff.

As for bypassing the security....again, it is cool there is no discussion here, but all someone as to do is read the articles on SecurityFocus, or the SANS Reading Room, or a half a dozen legit "security" sites to know exactly how to defeat security. I know when I audit a place that is "secure" most of the time I can punch through their internal-to-external defenses in a matter of minutes.

EaTeR said:
They are honest about it, you just don't want to see it that way.

Aiding and Abetting/Accessory was a crime last I checked, but maybe that has changed :confused: will anyone ever sue owners of this site or people giving advice? probably not, you're right, but if it was me I'd protect my ass the same exact way.

I am sorry but your statements are way off the mark, in many cases IT staff cannot be under the same rules as it prevents them from doing the work (aka keeping workplace secure). You have never done that type of work if you can't understand that. There is a difference between rules applied to joe end-user and IT staff that understand implications behind every one of their actions.

what you also fail to realize that many of us are the people that put these types of rules into effect at our jobs, as a matter of fact this IS our job and helping end-users bypass our rules defeats the purpose of what we do 8-5 mon-friday. I myself have 100 end-users that I support , I am IT at this company , 4 locations , 100 end-users and I do it all from fixing printers to migrating NT 4 boxes to 2003 servers and dealing with our Cisco gear, VPN and hundred other things, last thing I want is users that can bypass my rules. Trust me on that.
 
r0cketrider said:
First of all, just to be clear, so long as no fraud or malfeasance is taking place, bypassing the security of an organization to get to Gmail, read Slashdot, or post on Hardforums, is NOT a crime. It is a breach of contract perhaps, a violation of Acceptable Use Policies for sure, and can get you fired, but it is NOT a crime.
And would that stop some clueless PHB from bringing suit against an organization?

Don't answer that, I was merely making a point.
Come on guys, admit it (I know I will), even if it was not required for the job, as a network admin we hold the keys to the kingdom and unless forced we will NOT place ourselves under the same restrictions as the general staff.
I do. For many many reasons. Two of the biggest: 1) CYA and 2) I don't need it.

A few of the many other reasons; Professionalism, experiencing what the users expierence so you can catch errors before they blow up in your face, ect...
As for bypassing the security....again, it is cool there is no discussion here, but all someone as to do is read the articles on SecurityFocus
Then they should go read those articles.

I guess it's just experience that teaches you how to conduct yourself. And maybe age. Maybe I'm getting old, who knows. But just because you can do something, it does not follow that you should. I can read my employees email, but I don't. I can bypass my network's restrictions, but I don't. The admin ( namely, me ) put them in place for a reason, and as I know and apprecaite those reasons I make sure to follow them.

As a company's CIO, if I even knew half of what you've been spouting r0cketrider about a contractor, they'd be shown the door immediately. I don't need your kind of employees on my premise, and as a boss, I wouldn't tolerate it.
 
And if you did want to bypass your own security, you understand the risks...

r0cketrider, hacking is a crime, could this be construed as hacking? I'll leave that to the lawyers, which I'm not. It's not an area I'd want to explain either way. Regardless it's a "grey area" which the boards should not condone for simple CYA reasons.

It's a good rule regardless of legalities.
 
EaTeR said:
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what you also fail to realize that many of us are the people that put these types of rules into effect at our jobs, as a matter of fact this IS our job and helping end-users bypass our rules defeats the purpose of what we do 8-5 mon-friday. I myself have 100 end-users that I support , I am IT at this company , 4 locations , 100 end-users and I do it all from fixing printers to migrating NT 4 boxes to 2003 servers and dealing with our Cisco gear, VPN and hundred other things, last thing I want is users that can bypass my rules. Trust me on that.

agreed

i work for a company

10,000+ users scattered throughout the world

550 server 36 DC. And I am one of 5 Sr Admins that works here.

The ONY reason i have access to this site is because of the hardware asspect of it. But everything else including ALL free emails are not accessible nor would i want it to be. Why?

simple. Last outbreak we had here, a user access yahoo mail and opened a attachment. took less than 20 minutes for the entire infrastructure to be comprimised. One of those day 0 viruses. Never again.
 
Again...I was not trying to be an ass...just pointing out the average "hypocrisy" that most network admins/security people seem to have (myself included at times) that was all.

XOR != OR...you are one of the FEW I have ever met that actually places those same restrictions on themselves, and I would imagine you know that.

Also, if I may be so bold (and probably incorrect), unless it is a small company or your title is not indicative of what you truly do, a CIO has no need for unfettered access anyways, they are managers/forward thinkers/etc. NOT the guys in the trenches.

Sorry to have ruffled feathers....and Phoenix86, I do see the "safety" in the rule for [H]F, again, sometimes I just get the irrational urge to poke a bit at myself and other self-righteous admins that usually refuse to live under the same rules as they place everyone else under.

Who is watching the watchers?
 
r0cketrider said:
LOL..too true. Then again auditing is FUN!


drudging over logs and having to bring out procedures and what not is FAR from fun. :)
 
r0cketrider said:
XOR != OR...you are one of the FEW I have ever met that actually places those same restrictions on themselves, and I would imagine you know that.
No, actually, I don't. My peers in the area ( the few of them ) all do the same. It's called, "Professionalism".
Also, if I may be so bold (and probably incorrect), unless it is a small company or your title is not indicative of what you truly do, a CIO has no need for unfettered access anyways, they are managers/forward thinkers/etc. NOT the guys in the trenches.
You misunderstand. I did not say I was, I was speaking from the perspective of one. My official title is CTO or some such bullshit. I run 3 large dental offices plus an insurance building.
 
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