512mb AGP card?

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I've seen 'em in pci-e,...is anyone going to make 'em in AGP for those of us that dont care to upgrade mobos anytime soon? Also,...what about nextgen cards...I don't believe AGP will die off for a few years with all of the computers in the world that still have AGP so,...any rumors of future AGP support?...Brent...Your the man...if anyone would know....
 
I remember reading a thread where Brent basically said he has not seen a G70 in the AGP variant, but could not discuss more without breaking the NDA.

While, this may be true, I would expect AGP support for at least one more generation, while limited in product lines to choose from. I think AGP will cover most grounds of the PC market for at least one more generation.

As for making a current gen 512 card in AGP, probablly not. The only market for those is the extremely high end, which is PCI-E users. And honestly 512 is a huge waste of money during this generation, especially since they usually perform worse than their 256 counterparts in most games. Thanks to slower memory.
 
Well,...I don't care to make the move just yet,...so I hope we get some AGP goodness nextgen....
 
Could the 512 mb on the card make returning to the desktop go faster after exiting some demanding high end games or apps? Just trying to see if that's an advantage. Having more ram on the motherboard has helped gamers get back to the desktop quicker, FarCry being a big example. On web forums they commented on how upping their system ram to 1 gb allowed them to get back to desktop in seconds instead of minutes when leaving FarCry. So I thought about if more video card ram would work that way too. Maybe it would not be an IN game advantage but still a help associated with the game.
 
Will our motherboards like the P4C800E-Deluxe be able to fully utilize the 512mb, My bios only has an appeture opening of 256meg max. So does that mean that the Mobo will bottle neck the card? If so then why bother moving up from 256meg?

Your guys thoughts?

David
 
Sunin said:
Will our motherboards like the P4C800E-Deluxe be able to fully utilize the 512mb, My bios only has an appeture opening of 256meg max. So does that mean that the Mobo will bottle neck the card? If so then why bother moving up from 256meg?

Your guys thoughts?

David
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usually that is system ram reserved for the video card when it runs out of memory
UltimaParadox said:
And honestly 512 is a huge waste of money during this generation, especially since they usually perform worse than their 256 counterparts in most games. Thanks to slower memory
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Not with the 7800GTX 512. It uses faster 1.1ns ram. 7800 GTX=1070Mhz(ish)Vs 7800 GTX 512=1730Mhz
 
If I recall correctly there was a F4t4l1ty Gamer Edition X800XL 512mb card, however I don't remember if it was AGP or PCI-Express.

But why would you want to waste your money?
 
Isaacav2 said:
I don't plan on upgrading untill I see 1GB cards :p
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The price of memory keeps falling it probably will not be too long before that happens! :)

But will it happen in AGP format? I have yet to see the 512 in AGP.

David
 
I think nvidia makes a cad card 4000 or something you can get with agp and do a bios flash on it, make it into a game card lol but whoa hope you got lots of cash :)
 
And you most likly will not see future high-end AGP cards. AGP will be reserved for the low and lower-side of the mid-line. Stuff like the 7 Series are all PCI-e and you will not see any AGP versions coming out.

Anyways, since AGP cards cost about 50 - 100 more then the PCI-E counter-parts. Take that money and buy a PCI-E motherboard.

Face it, AGP is LEGACY, Intel don't even support it any more, and now that the AM2 chips are coming out I don't think you're going to see ANY AGP cards there ether. There is simply not enough band-width on the AGP Bus to support modern cards.

Companies like HP, DELL, Gateway all use strictly PCI-E now. The boards are cheaper to manufacture since you don't need an AGP bridge chip.

As for 512mb on AGP... No chance, the X800XL 512 as far as I know is only on PCI-E. And road-maps for both ATi and NVIDIA both call for strictly PCI-E boards for now on.
 
CompMage said:
There is simply not enough band-width on the AGP Bus to support modern cards.
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That isn't true - even 4x AGP 2.0 is over 1000 mb/s and more than enough for any current card. 8x AGP 3.0 is over 2000 mb/s. I agree with everything else you said, though.
 
CompMage said:
And you most likly will not see future high-end AGP cards. AGP will be reserved for the low and lower-side of the mid-line. Stuff like the 7 Series are all PCI-e and you will not see any AGP versions coming out.

Face it, AGP is LEGACY, Intel don't even support it any more, and now that the AM2 chips are coming out I don't think you're going to see ANY AGP cards there ether. There is simply not enough band-width on the AGP Bus to support modern cards.
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Sorry but there is still a strong demand, while I agree with you that it is a dead technology there is still a large installed base that might want upgrades for a while until they do dip. We that have AGP and don't want to upgrade CPU's, etc, its a what is out there to tide us over until we do a full system build again. I'd like 1 more year out of this machine. I mean its about 1.5yrs old now so I'd like to extend it a bit mroe then jump in again.

David
 
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