Azureus is owning my internet

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Alright so I'm using Azureus to share files with some friends, most movies that we've taken or pictures we've taken with our cameras... We share them constantly and some packages are around 5gb or so.

The problem I'm having is that when I've got like 5 or so things downloading and maybe 2 uploading my internet completly craps out..

Info about my internet
I have cable... it does about 500-700kb and 50kb upload.


Even if Azureus is only doing 100kb download and 10 upload my internet will completly not work, I can't even ping sites, they show as not responding, I can't browse or anything, but Azureus keeps on working and will even reach 300kb sometimes.
It might be important to note that I can set it to only hold 20 connections and it'll still kill my internet.

What's up?
I can HTTP download at 500kb and still use the net just fine, why is this happening?

Is there anything I can do to fix this?
 
what router do you have?
see if it works well without the router
 
I have a WRT56GX

I'm not really willing to test it without the router :) cause if that is the problem there isn't ANYTHING I can do about it.
 
is your computer just lagging? i know azerues sucks my system resources and i cant do anthing while its running, wierd thing is azereus behaves differently on diff systems. i have 2 systems, one a laptop with 128 mb of ram,and a desktop p4 with 256.
both same os with no software and the laptop can run more smoothly with azereus runing in the bg.
id thin the other pc with more ram would, but there must be other factors that make that app slow my pc down to a hault
 
Well no my PC works fine, it's just the net... honestly it's doing better now, I updated the firmware on my router, not sure if it had anything to do with it, but my net is actually moving now.

hrmm... odd.
 
My experience has been that torrenting owns most SOHO routers. I've tried various brands of routers (Dlink 604, 624, Airlink+, Netgear rp614, Linksys WRT54GS and WRT54G) and they would work ok for awhile, but something changes and torrenting eventually slows the router down that general web surfing just becomes really slow. With the linksys routers I even spent a lot of time to test various aftermarket and vendor provided firmwares. I've tried HyperWRT, sveasoft, DD-WRT, and latest official linksys firmwares. Most of them also had QOS which I tried to setup. Somehow the QOS never worked for me.


So far I loaded up a *nix based software router on an older computer and setup traffic shaping and that does definately work. My web browsing doesn't lag anymore and feels about 3 to 4 times faster. I'm currently using pfsense, but I'm going to give m0n0wall and some others a chance too. If you have an older computer just lying around or someone who wants to donate one, then the cost is really just getting some NIC cards for that computer. I haven't tried USB based NIC cards, but getting a computer with USB support usually means that it isn't that old either.
 
I have a DI-624 and I can run 2 or 3 torrents simultaneously without a problem. My ISP is WideOpenWest and I have 3000/300 (not sure on the downstream, may be 4mbit). When I had Comcast I noticed that when I was doing heavy uploading it would cut my downstream down to about 1/4 of its normal speed. With WideOpenWest I find that my downstream is not affected by uploading.
 
The problem wasn't the speed. My cable connection is 5000kb/384kb and I had tried limiting uploads to 10kB/s and downloads to nothing, but the problem was the number of connections or attempted connections from outside the network would saturate the router.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it basically came down to processing speed, which most home routers probably top out at 200mhz max, and the amount of ram available to hold the iptables. I am using a faster cpu in that *nix based software router, but I am using the extra cpu cycles on traffic shaping which is supposed to look at the type of packet that is being transferred and assign it a status such as transmit, wait, or drop.

edit: It's also important to note that I have a long seeding queue because there are so many rare torrents.
 
most cable tops out at around 100kilabytes upload. I have a quick connection so I can squeeze out 120k up sometimes and 1250 kilabytes down but the more you upload the slower your connection is. I have also noticed this is the past. The more uploading you do the less bandwith is available for use to download. No technical knowledge as to why that happens but that's what I have observed over time. Try putting your upload on unlimited for 10 minutes then cut it down to 10 k and watch your download speed increase. This can also be attributed to the hard drive but I have a fast 250 and it still shows a difference my 2 cents....
 
I've tried quite a few different BitTorrent apps, and they've all done this except for the basic BitTorrent app.
 
I'm not sure if you are limiting the upload speeds or just letting it do whatever it wants but if you max your upload speed on a cable system you download speed will go to crap. Now i know some programs measure speedsi n KB's and you isp measures speeds in kb.

so with a 384kb upload the max you can upload is 48KB and you need to leave some for overhead and such. So just set the upload limit to 30KB or less and that may fix your problem. If thats the case it has nothing to do with your router or the ISP's equipment and you will just have to limit the upload.

Infact here is a page that may describe a bit more why it is happening.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10891925
 
for me, I don't know if everyone else follows that standard
kb = kilobits
kB = kiloBytes

And yes, I have 384 kilobits upload or 48 kiloBytes upload.

I have set uploads to 10kB and at 30 kB and max download speed for me is uneffected since I could still hit 5mb/s on the really popular torrents. What was effected was normal web browsing became a crawl on most routers due to the uploading. I could limit connections drastically on the bittorrent application to say max of 50 total connections, but that is what limits your download speed the most. If I put it to 200 connections, SOHO routers crap out on me.
 
Rix2357 said:
for me, I don't know if everyone else follows that standard
kb = kilobits
kB = kiloBytes

And yes, I have 384 kilobits upload or 48 kiloBytes upload.

I have set uploads to 10kB and at 30 kB and max download speed for me is uneffected since I could still hit 5mb/s on the really popular torrents. What was effected was normal web browsing became a crawl on most routers due to the uploading. I could limit connections drastically on the bittorrent application to say max of 50 total connections, but that is what limits your download speed the most. If I put it to 200 connections, SOHO routers crap out on me.
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Rix I was posting info for the original poster to possible solve the problem they are having. It sounds like you already solved your problem :)
 
This happens to be as well when Bittorrent has too many open connections. If you limit it to between 100-200 you should be fine.
 
i've never had problems with torrenting with my DI-604.i stopped using azeurus and went to use somethign called Micro Torrent.very small and takes up 3mb instead of azerus 25+mb cause of it using javaws.

i thought i was having problems with speed's of uploads and dowloads of torrents,but i used azuerus when it first starts up option settings........i get download speeds of 175kb/s and 60kb/s seeding.

i did have problems getting azuerus to work with the cheap-o half brother network everywhere router.i got it to work,but after a few months it stopped working.so off it went back to the store.
 
Well I think what has been said about the issue lying with the routers is probably true, it probalby can't take that many connections... I'm going to try the recommended torrent program with the funny letter "u" in it.

If that works then I guess it's mostly cause the bittorrent apps handle things in a less CPU efficient way.
 
dude I just tried hooking straight to my modem and I'm gettint 1750 kilabytes not bits down and 220 kilabytes up WOOHOOOO
 
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