using no HSF on my VENICE!!!!!

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newls1

newls1

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im setting @ 46c with absolutly NO COOLING on the 3000+ venice operating @ 2.52GHz!
I have a 720MHz OC and NO COOLING on this chip and as I type this my temps are only 46/47c (switching between these 2 temps) PRESCOTT cores, eat your heart out! :p
 
Bullshit.

You're going to need to post screen shots of CPU-Z and have the computer in the same shot for me to believe that. If that thing is running at all, it's throttleing. I assure you that it's clock speed isn't that high, and it's running that cool. If that were the case, people would be overclocking Athlon FX-57's with passive coolers on them.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Bullshit.

You're going to need to post screen shots of CPU-Z and have the computer in the same shot for me to believe that. If that thing is running at all, it's throttleing. I assure you that it's clock speed isn't that high, and it's running that cool. If that were the case, people would be overclocking Athlon FX-57's with passive coolers on them.
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This isnt bullshit. I dont have a camera, so cant take a pic of the PC, but I think I can hit the print screen key, to show you the temp, and email it to you (dont know how to post pics here)
 
Asian Dub Foundation said:
though its a screenie can't prove ur running no heatsink
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That's what I am saying. I am not going to believe that without proof. Proof includes shots of the PC running without a heatsink and fan. Until I see a PC that is clearly ON with no HSF. Don't know how your going to convince me that it isn't throtteling the clock speed either. The CPU-Z screen can easily be faked off of another machine.
 
All I can do it a screen shot, but yes your right, that is not proof enough. I think of it like this, WHY THE HELL WOULD I WASTE MY TIME AND LIE :rolleyes: . I'm sitting in a room that is 62 degrees now, and venices run cool to begin with. If you all dont belive this, dont even waste your time to respond to this thread. To get back to the subject. I said @ idle the temp is this. If I launch IE to many times the temps will go to 55/56c, then I quickly put the heatsink back on and wait till it gets back down to 28/29c, then start over again. Im right now typing this very message, and sitting @ 47c AGAIN!
 
No HSF=overheat=system shutdown.

the throtling is irrelevant, the system would off overheated before that would happen.

Nuff said... case closed, thread closed. :mad:
 
newls1 said:
All I can do it a screen shot, but yes your right, that is not proof enough. I think of it like this, WHY THE HELL WOULD I WASTE MY TIME AND LIE :rolleyes: . I'm sitting in a room that is 62 degrees now, and venices run cool to begin with. If you all dont belive this, dont even waste your time to respond to this thread. To get back to the subject. I said @ idle the temp is this. If I launch IE to many times the temps will go to 55/56c, then I quickly put the heatsink back on and wait till it gets back down to 28/29c, then start over again. Im right now typing this very message, and sitting @ 47c AGAIN!
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Honestly I wouldn't have even STARTED a thread with a comment such as "I am running with no heatsink and fan with temps in the 40C range" without being able to prove it. All I would expect to see in response to my thread is BULLSHIT!
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Honestly I wouldn't have even STARTED a thread with a comment such as "I am running with no heatsink and fan with temps in the 40C range" without being able to prove it. All I would expect to see in response to my thread is BULLSHIT!
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Dude I like to use some stars...

B*LLSH*T
 
Instead of saying BULLSHIT to this thread, if any of you people have this CPU and have a 61 degree room to do this in, take off your HSF combo and do it :eek: . Or is it just easier to say "BULLSHIT" :rolleyes:
 
Okay, anyone who is reading this thread and is curious, DO NOT DO IT.

You can't even run a Pentium without a passive heatsink, and an active one is recommended.

newls1, do you mean without a fan on the heatsink? That's possible with very good case airflow, but running a bare chip is BS pure and simple.
 
newls1 said:
Instead of saying BULLSHIT to this thread, if any of you people have this CPU and have a 61 degree room to do this in, take off your HSF combo and do it :eek: . Or is it just easier to say "BULLSHIT" :rolleyes:
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I'm going to hope for the best and say someone jacked your username. No one here is going to risk their Venice to test something that some guy on the internet posted that defies the laws of physics.
 
IDK, this is the biggest load of bullshit I've read since, I read nVidia bought ATi.
 
TheBlueChanell said:
..........You can just, pop the heatsink back on!!!! :confused:
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If the case is laying on its side you can just place it back onto the CPU. It would be kind of hard/risky to put the clips on while it's running...
 
Lol buddy my cpu is oced to 2.6ghz as we speak with water cooling and my temp is at 43 so i know you arent running 46 without any cooling on it.
 
Ok guys.. All of you chill. Now I may not be there in person But ANYTHING could be possible..I do happen to know Newls1 personally and know he is not the type of person to lie or pull bullshit thats not true. He is not some lil kid here screwing around and he is probably older then most of you in this thread. anyhow.. Have any of you tried this??? From the sounds of it i guess not.. Instead of slamming and flaming newls1 how about trying to PHYISCALLY DISSPROVE IT!!.. Your just stating bullshit that it cant be done is bullshit without real self trial and error factual proof. Unless you have done it yourself and had it fail then you cant say bullshit.. here is an example. How does a 75 watt light bulb not burn up instantly. hmm the wattage output on a 3000 venice is probably less then even that and overclocked fairly close to that spec of 75 watts. So anybody a taker to his suggestion to try it. If i had a 3000 venice core i would do it myself. Its not like you will kill the chip. it does have a shut down threshold that will keep that from happening. Also even if its throttleing down its still pretty kick ass that the energy consumption is working that low and well to allow it to run at that. but come on guys dont be haters about it.. Prove it and if it works like he says thats even better for us AMD guys!!!
 
eh, i don't know. is that even possible? i mean, i can see something with a heat sink and no fan, look at laptops how they don't always have their fans on. i can see something like btx, with just a large heat sink, and i guess you don't need a fan because those heat sinks are huge. but to say NO heat sink, that is just impossible for that cpu.
 
Captin Insano said:
Have any of you tried this??? From the sounds of it i guess not.. Instead of slamming and flaming newls1 how about trying to PHYISCALLY DISSPROVE IT!!..
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How about this post? :rolleyes:
lt.murda said:
Lol buddy my cpu is oced to 2.6ghz as we speak with water cooling and my temp is at 43 so i know you arent running 46 without any cooling on it.
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Captin Insano said:
Ok guys.. All of you chill. Now I may not be there in person But ANYTHING could be possible..I do happen to know Newls1 personally and know he is not the type of person to lie or pull bullshit thats not true. He is not some lil kid here screwing around and he is probably older then most of you in this thread. anyhow.. Have any of you tried this??? From the sounds of it i guess not.. Instead of slamming and flaming newls1 how about trying to PHYISCALLY DISSPROVE IT!!.. Your just stating bullshit that it cant be done is bullshit without real self trial and error factual proof. Unless you have done it yourself and had it fail then you cant say bullshit.. here is an example. How does a 75 watt light bulb not burn up instantly. hmm the wattage output on a 3000 venice is probably less then even that and overclocked fairly close to that spec of 75 watts. So anybody a taker to his suggestion to try it. If i had a 3000 venice core i would do it myself. Its not like you will kill the chip. it does have a shut down threshold that will keep that from happening. Also even if its throttleing down its still pretty kick ass that the energy consumption is working that low and well to allow it to run at that. but come on guys dont be haters about it.. Prove it and if it works like he says thats even better for us AMD guys!!!
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Ok, if you know this person then get over to his place with a digicam and get a shot of this, cause I calling BULLSHIT too.

NO Fin' WAY... Chip at idle with no heatsink will overheat.
I have a freind with an Air Conditioned case and he STILL USES a heatsink, no mind you his temps are 11 degrees celsius in his case... but his CPU temps are still at 22/28 degrees celsius (that's Idle/Load temps)...
 
Some of you folks need to calm down... and if you've got an opinion, don't feed the trolls. :p

I can definitely see him running passively in conjunction with underclocking and undervolting... but like I said, don't feed the trolls.
 
I dont think its bullshit, why would he waste his time?

I think the chip is throtteling though. There is no way even an A64 at stock speeds could keep up without a throttle. I still want a CPUz screenshot...whether it proves it or not.
 
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Captin Insano said:
Ok guys.. All of you chill. Now I may not be there in person But ANYTHING could be possible..I do happen to know Newls1 personally and know he is not the type of person to lie or pull bullshit thats not true. He is not some lil kid here screwing around and he is probably older then most of you in this thread. anyhow.. Have any of you tried this??? From the sounds of it i guess not.. Instead of slamming and flaming newls1 how about trying to PHYISCALLY DISSPROVE IT!!.. Your just stating bullshit that it cant be done is bullshit without real self trial and error factual proof. Unless you have done it yourself and had it fail then you cant say bullshit..
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http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/200...wnload_the_first_toms_hardware_test_lab_video
the video on that link will show you that taking the heatsink off of an active CPU will destroy it in seconds.

What needs to happen is for the OP to get some kind of camera, lay his PC down in front of his monitor (with his monitor displaying the temps and the CPU in sight). We can check to see if it's "photoshopped" by using a Hex editor to check the signature of the image.

Then, and only then, will anyone believe you.
 
Captin Insano said:
How does a 75 watt light bulb not burn up instantly. hmm the wattage output on a 3000 venice is probably less then even that and overclocked fairly close to that spec of 75 watts. So anybody a taker to his suggestion to try it.
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How hot do you think the filament of the 75 watt light bulb gets? Granted silicon is not tungsten, you're still not going to be running at 46 degrees.

_Korruption_ said:
Some of you folks need to calm down... and if you've got an opinion, don't feed the trolls. :p

I can definitely see him running passively in conjunction with underclocking and undervolting... but like I said, don't feed the trolls.
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Running passively when underclocked and undervolted is quite a different beast when compared to running an overclocked bare core.

Even if you ignore all physics, do you think AMD would package a heatsink with a processor if it can run stable at 46 degrees without a heatsink? Trolling or not, this needs to be set straight.
 
newls, you have been a fucking member for 2 years now. And you dont know how to post a pic?

BULL SHIT!!!
 
I find it hard to believe that he could be OLDER than most of us...and NOT have a digicam...hell, a low end one is what...about $100? Less even? not to mention you can pick up a DISPOSABLE digicam now at WALMART of all places and they're cheap.

until there is proof...it's shens.

I vote for a video camera taking the shots of the action, and then u/l in wmv format. Showing the PC next to the monitor, and pushing the power on the PC showing the bootup on the monitor...then taking the heatsink off...all while the camera rolling.
 
honestly, even with pic i wouldn't believe it... i'd need a vid going between monitor and comp to show the bare processor...
 
ironic, because a 3.8Ghz prescott running at that frequency would be considerably cooler, given that the faster(higher-quality) transistors wouldn't have any strain on them, as well as the chip being undervolted

as for the OP, he probably isn't going to respond because he just trashed his cpu
 
This is pretty impossible. To the guy comparing it to a light bulb. Have you ever touched a 75w light bulb? they can get Quite hot. Also consider the fact that an athlon 64 has ALOT less surface area to dissipate heat. I don't know if I really believe this, sounds like B$ to me. With no fan running idle I hit 50's easily with a newcastle. Granted, newcastles do run a bit hotter than venices but the fact remains, he is expecting us to believe that he can remain at 47c with almost no surface area to dissipate about 30watts of heat (idle guess :confused: )
 
Captin Insano said:
He is not some lil kid here screwing around and he is probably older then most of you in this thread.
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He sure acts like one.

... And how would someone with ~1,300 posts not know how to post pics for us all to see?
 
The OP has had his few minutes of fame. So how about we just leave this thread alone until he posts some evidence?
Just a though :)
 
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