Not impressed at all with water cooling...

viperdv2k4 said:
I dont really care that the price was that high, its just that i didnt get the performance for how mch i paid. And also the noise doesnt really bother me becuase the 5 fans are quiet. So, do you think i should reseat the blocks? I think i put on to mch AS5 (Around the length of 2 grains of rice) Also I installed the system yesterday so the AS5 maybe didnt burn in?

With AS5 temps will drop a bit after a couple of weeks of burn-in.
 
theseeker said:
Funny, no one ever posts their H20 temps, which will tell you alot!

Well a temp meter is pretty expensive...seen them from Tt for $30. :D
 
viperdv2k4 said:
I thoght my storm temps were too high?

Give it a week or two and see if they come down a bit. Also get one of the aforementioned Tt water temp meters.
 
Dont forget for BEST as5 result you MUST leave your computer off for the CPU /heatsink to cool to room temp once in a while.
 
The "setup" time for Artic Silver 5 is also 100 hours, meaning once applied, you should leave your computer running for 100 hours for it to set, before turning it off.

As for shutting her down once in a while, I agree......and so does my electric bill :p
 
Scroatdog said:
The "setup" time for Artic Silver 5 is also 100 hours, meaning once applied, you should leave your computer running for 100 hours for it to set, before turning it off.

As for shutting her down once in a while, I agree......and so does my electric bill :p
no, you dont need to leave it on for 100 - it just needs a load on it for 100 hours before it completly cures. you are supposed to turn it off and on and let it heat up and cool down as well, it yeilds better results.
 
i don't know if its been said but you block may not be flat. if in doubt check it. my block is as flat as i could make it, with in i would say +.0000 -.0001" of bein flat, taking it off of the cpu is a PITA as i have to slide them apart

i am runnin an a64 3200 cpu is 21-22 (keeps going back and forth, its not idle and i am playing mp3's so there is a little load on it) the room temp is 20C ( i live by the beach so at night its cold) The PWMIC on the board and NF4 shipset (air cooled) are at 41C right now(cpu is on its own 120.3 rad - over kill i know but i want it to last )
oh and the h20 temp on the hot side is 23c right now

my gpu (x800xl) is at 29c right now and will be lucky to hit 45c overclocked(85 mhz on the core) and under load. (the gpu is on its own 120.1 rad)


With your temps i would be unhappy , my system is allmost silent the way i have it set up(it just sounds like air moving no hum) . i think i have 600 into mine , maybe a little more but i have 2 loops running with a 3rd allmost there.
I am running some ac gear, some black ice gear and c-systems pumps

I hope you figure out what the issue is with yours and best of luck !!
 
lithium726 said:
no, you dont need to leave it on for 100 - it just needs a load on it for 100 hours before it completly cures. you are supposed to turn it off and on and let it heat up and cool down as well, it yeilds better results.


meh...................... We're BOTH wrong.

Important Reminder:
Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.
 
You might be, but not me. ;) Like I said before give it a week or two to stabilize.
 
eumskickin said:
i don't know if its been said but you block may not be flat. if in doubt check it. my block is as flat as i could make it, with in i would say +.0000 -.0001" of bein flat, taking it off of the cpu is a PITA as i have to slide them apart
QFT, whenever i remove my water block my cpu comes out with it and i have to oreo it about 5 rotations to get the cpu off, thats with over 2000 grit finish and before i lapped my cpu(wow the prescott ihs wasnt flat, now it is :cool: ) its going to be verry interesting getting the cpu off next time around

on the topic of the water blocks, the MAZE4 out performs the NV68 temp wise going by what i see for temps, my gpu gets all my cpus heat(1.475v, you bet thats a lot of heat) and i get 38C idle and 48C load(when i had a 2.8b northwood in there it got 36 idle 42 load, no lapp), but like i said above i lapped it same, not sure if its a good idea to lapp a 68 tho... having ram sinks and all


oh yea.. 38C idle and 48 load with a room ambient of ~80F cpu loads at 50C and idles at ~47 with a SINGLE 87 cfm panaflo, i expect temps to drop with a second ill buy some day... or should i?
 
CFM is not always what matters its the pressure. i think its mesured in bar , the higher the better.

say you have 2 60cfm fans one runs like .21 bar and the other is like .16, depending on how restrictive the radiator is the fan pushin .21bar is going to do a hell of alot better in moving air through the radiator.

if you have good flow, good contact and you applyd the thermal compound correctly and the cpu and block is flat, then i would look at the fan's . try replacing them ?
 
I would reseat ur blocks. when you take it off see how much As5 was on there. you want a very little bit on it. you should hardly see it. Also I know the storm wants a lot of flow, and the nv68 is a very restrictive, wonder if hte flow is too low with that combo.

But i woudl def reseat the blocks and make sure you put a small amount on both of hte cores, and btw. u dont want to use as5 on ur mem. so hopefully you didnt. use a non conductive paste on the mem.
 
kenpomasta said:
I would reseat ur blocks. when you take it off see how much As5 was on there. you want a very little bit on it. you should hardly see it. Also I know the storm wants a lot of flow, and the nv68 is a very restrictive, wonder if hte flow is too low with that combo.

But i woudl def reseat the blocks and make sure you put a small amount on both of hte cores, and btw. u dont want to use as5 on ur mem. so hopefully you didnt. use a non conductive paste on the mem.
the storm is the restrictive one
 
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