Is this whole "internet" thing new to EA?

NickTheNut said:
yes. minor change, but worth noting and totally changes the focus of the argument.

You know, about the whole writting the IP down thing. Can you be any less lazy? When my friends all played MP games together we did the exact same thing. I didn't bitch, they didn't bitch. It's just kind of the process. I don't know of a game that lets you paste anything in the console that was copied in windows. Can you name me one? (okay: so i just tested HL2 and you can. so sorry). Even still, is it REALLY worth yelling about?

and actually, your proof even shows a few examples of sub 100 ping servers that DO have open slots.

BTW: what connection are you on?
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Quit the fan-boi. They really are behind the times man. Even BF1942 felt like crap compared to other games that were much more optimized at the same time.
 
The IP thing really is a big deal if you're trying to get a decent game going with some friends.

You're trying to find a semi-full server so that there is action, yet you also want to make sure that all your friends get in the game. Going into the game, getting an IP, going out to Windows, collaborating through a messenger service, going back into the game, and writing in an IP address is a pain in the ass. Somebody will be left out due to a server filling up during that process more often than not, and that really sucks.
 
dissonance: I don't even own the game. How am i a fan boi? I just see stupid lazy remarks and i comment on them.

WickedAngel: So by being able to copy / paste you're STILL not saving that much time. You still have to alt tab out of there and tell them via a messenging service. Your point is kind of moot. Why not just get on a mic in teamspeak or some equivalent and TELL them? Hrmm that works....

finalgt: I play games with friends as well. I CALL them on the phone. Sorry that i have friends in real life and don't need to msg them all over the place.

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bottom line is this: I really feel, and i think many of you can agree with this, is that it's completely pointless to bitch and cry about it in this forum. IF you want results, GO to the source.
 
NickTheNut said:
dissonance: I don't even own the game. How am i a fan boi? I just see stupid lazy remarks and i comment on them.

WickedAngel: So by being able to copy / paste you're STILL not saving that much time. You still have to alt tab out of there and tell them via a messenging service. Your point is kind of moot. Why not just get on a mic in teamspeak or some equivalent and TELL them? Hrmm that works....

finalgt: I play games with friends as well. I CALL them on the phone. Sorry that i have friends in real life and don't need to msg them all over the place.

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bottom line is this: I really feel, and i think many of you can agree with this, is that it's completely pointless to bitch and cry about it in this forum. IF you want results, GO to the source.
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Do you realize how stupid of a point you're trying to argue? We just expect something comparative with other titles.
 
NickTheNut said:
dissonance: I don't even own the game. How am i a fan boi? I just see stupid lazy remarks and i comment on them.

WickedAngel: So by being able to copy / paste you're STILL not saving that much time. You still have to alt tab out of there and tell them via a messenging service. Your point is kind of moot. Why not just get on a mic in teamspeak or some equivalent and TELL them? Hrmm that works....

finalgt: I play games with friends as well. I CALL them on the phone. Sorry that i have friends in real life and don't need to msg them all over the place.

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bottom line is this: I really feel, and i think many of you can agree with this, is that it's completely pointless to bitch and cry about it in this forum. IF you want results, GO to the source.
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NicktheNut: Messaging your friends doesn't make them any less real than friends you talk on the phone too. It's called the Internet, just because you are talking on a chat client with someone, doesn't make them less real.
 
I have spent the last hour trying to simply play the godamn game but the whole menu system is so jacked to fuck It takes 20 mins to do anything and then it freezes 3/4 of the time. For god sakes how about a patch ea.
 
dissonance said:
Do you realize how stupid of a point you're trying to argue? We just expect something comparative with other titles.
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QFT...

Blind loyalty to a company (Especially EA...) is really sad...
 
i'm hardly loyal to EA. not by any stretch of the imagination.

so, because i'm trying to argue against your point, it's stupid? can i not say the exact same thing to the point that you're trying to argue?

please read my bottom line from the last post i made. if you think it should have something, go to the source.
 
There is nothing pointless about enlightening people who haven't spent $50 yet to think twice about what they want in a game.

That "pointless bitching" that was done by other people about World of Warcraft saved me a bunch of money when it was launched. I was ready to buy the game and a year subscription until I saw how much trouble people were having simply trying to log in to the game.
 
lmao...NTN is pointlessly bitching about someone else..."pointlessly bitching"... :p

I'd have to agree overall with the OP. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with posting your complaints on a forum such as this one, with extremely high traffic of people who game a lot, to get your feelings across about a game that you feel has serious issues.

Like WickedAngel said about WoW, if the OP (and others) really let people know about the problems they're having with this game then maybe it will keep a good number of people from [H] from buying it.

Call me crazy, but I think that's a way better solution than sending EA an email. Hit them where it hurts, in the pocketbook...then I can promise you, they'll start listening to the players...
 
I actually play with 5-6 people on a weekly basis. We have a list of IP's that we have written down and try to get on. First person on a server decides for the whole team. Then everyone tries to get on that server. It's about a 15-20 minute process to get everyone on. Also, it seems as though the ping reports are incorrect. I regularly ping at over 250 on the servers we play and don't experience any lag. It's a pain, but its really the only way we can all play together.

 
3. All Ranked servers are full.
4. Ranked servers that aren't full are pinging upwards of 300.

anybody else notice these contradict each other :)
 
:rolleyes:

All "Decent" ranked servers are full. Inference is your friend, people.
 
Agreed on all points.

You would think that a game that focuses on teamplay, you would be able to have a friends list and know exactly what server and squad they are on to get together as a team easilly.

Instead, you get stuck on some team with a bunch of ass-hats that have no clue what a squad means while your on the phone for 30 minutes trying to contact the rest of your group to get onto a server all together.


My Long Post on the Sucky Serverlist
 
man im so glad i didnt buy this one, ive read way too many posts of ppl pissed off at this game
 
I don't mean to imply that it's not fun as hell; it is. Just wait until it's below $40 and the inexcusably stupid bugs have been patched.
 
:( :( :(

Since the release date up to this morning, I got pings of ~20-40 in the nearby west coast servers.

Now, I get pings of 200-400. =(
Using comcast but it isn't slow doing other things.

Has this happened to you?
 
hmmm. me and a friend noticed earlier(on monday) that all the WC servers were not showing up except for one or two for a few hours. nothing about bad pings though. maybe that had something to do with it
 
Techx said:
man im so glad i didnt buy this one, ive read way too many posts of ppl pissed off at this game
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I am pissed off at it but I love it at the same time.
 
One of my main grievances with the demo was poor GUI features. The filters didn't work, it was slow and poorly designed ect. Not surprising that not much has changed in the retail version, This is really a 6/10 game, if it weren't EA nobody would bother with this game.

I had a lot more fun with DC than BF1942 (the expansion packs were a joke but I was dumb enough to buy one) not to mention the pathetic game that was BF: Vietnam, "OMG it has rock and roll songs from the same era, I gotta buy it" dodgy games that are way overhyped is what I say. Potential, but only though mods. Must avoid at all costs, a sad state for PC gaming if this is a 9.0+ game.
 
i know that i cant join a game... at all it seems...

i tried multiplayer a few times got it to connect once other times it froze

then tried singleplayer and it froze and i have been playing WoW and gave up on it

i regret purchasing BF2 for some reason it wont work on my comp. and my comp is not the problem

i thought they would clean up the demo - as in give it polish and shine but i was wrong it is pretty much the same thing...
 
#1. Until gamers realise that buying a PC game the first month after a release is like volunteering for a Beta test, companies will release buggy games.

#2. EA & DICE knew that the browser stunk for the average gamer, or they did not even bother to test it. I vote for not testing it too much as the beta testers probably just connected via IP.

#3 [begin Ed Norton's Fight Club rant]

"Until the cost of a recall is less than the costs of the lawsuits, they don't recall"

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Until the cost of the company losing sales is greater than the cost of testing, they will not test. Plain and simple. This goes back to point #1.

#4. If you are unhappy with the product, return the game. Get what you can for it. If car companies did what software companies and electronic stores do with their sales policies they would be out of business.

#5. The browser will be fixed, or Xfire + ASE will hack it. EA can do whatever they want to fight this but it will not work. You will have to give it a few patches.

Damn, if you want to complain about something, complain about the ranking system and locked weapons...
 
I'm pretty satisfied with the ranking system. As far as the locked weapons go, I think it is a neat idea, however the locked weapons should be noticably better in every way over the unlocked weapons. I love the G3 assault rifle, but i miss the attached grenade launcher. Same thing with the G36, accuracy and recoil are great, but it should have the m4's optical scope on it too.
 
Genocidal said:
I'm pretty satisfied with the ranking system. As far as the locked weapons go, I think it is a neat idea, however the locked weapons should be noticably better in every way over the unlocked weapons. I love the G3 assault rifle, but i miss the attached grenade launcher. Same thing with the G36, accuracy and recoil are great, but it should have the m4's optical scope on it too.
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G36 doesn't have the scope? ouch!
 
The unlocked weapons shouldnt be noticiably better. If they were, youd see more and more people stat whoring just to get higher ranks and more of the better weapons.
As they are right now, the unlockable weapons are slightly more powerfull, but come with a trade-off. Eng class gains an auto shotty, but it is fas less accurate and slower to reload.
 
Man, I know I WANT that G3 upgrade though. I remember getting it on an unlocked demo server and was surprised by how it owned with just a few shots. That's really the first weapon I want badly.
 
Genocidal said:
I'm pretty satisfied with the ranking system. As far as the locked weapons go, I think it is a neat idea, however the locked weapons should be noticably better in every way over the unlocked weapons. I love the G3 assault rifle, but i miss the attached grenade launcher. Same thing with the G36, accuracy and recoil are great, but it should have the m4's optical scope on it too.
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Yeah the ranking system is addictive, makes you want to keep playing and get a higher rank IMO... and I used all the unlocked weapons in the demo, and I was like wtf they aren't good enough, but then a few people who had the full version told me that they are really different and more powerful and stuff (I think the G36 is more powerful in the retail than in the demo?) so I'm not really sure how powerful the unlockables are. I'm all for making the guns noticably better; if you worked hard to get a rank you deserve a better gun, IMO. Also it would be cool to have even more unlockables, like a level per rank and you pick one or something, but I think it would take a long time to make all those weapons and to find that many... and I don't know actually how many ranks there are, does anyone?
 
If you like to play with friends, this game sucks.
My clan put up a BF2 server on a quality (non EA owned) connection so we could low-ping frag among friends as well as slaughter hapless n00bs that wander into our server. For this simple desire, EA and DICE punish us by not letting us be ranked which in turn keeps us from playing locked weapons.
Well, were not ranked anyways so lets just mod the game to have access to all the weapons. I mean, DICE said the Python scripts were going to be mod friendly right?
WRONG!
Unlocking the weapons will get our server delisted.

Fuck you EA and DICE.
Way to stick it to your gaming community.
 
Wow, if modding the server gets you delisted, I'm never getting this game. In UT2004 about half the servers are modded!
 
LunchboX3904 said:
it could be worse......it COULD run off of Steam :rolleyes:
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Steam has never locked up on my while refreshing servers, steam doesnt show servers with a magical ping of 0, steam lets me wait for a spot in a popular server to open then automagically joins, steam doesnt stutter when i scroll though servers. Steams server filters work way better then BF2's. Steam hasnt done me wrong yet, mabey im one in a few though.
 
finalgt said:
1. Can't join a server from Windows.
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This is a giant issue, and pretty inexcusable. I, like a number of people, use xfire and ASE to get into games. BF1942 and BFV server browser got me into using these third party applications and now that I have a pretty extensive xfire friends list, I can't really imagine not being able to use xfire to join servers that friends are on.
 
I'm the Dude said:
Man, I know I WANT that G3 upgrade though. I remember getting it on an unlocked demo server and was surprised by how it owned with just a few shots. That's really the first weapon I want badly.
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[Utterly and completely offtopic:]
Love the G3, all 4.7 kgs of it. It's the only assault rifle I've actually carried, fired (and cleaned, oiled, weight-lifted, etc), and I would dearly like to see it in more games. After getting used to the G3, the M16s and M4s that are in most games and movies look a bit toyish to me. :)
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(It's the standard weapon of the norwegian army. Rumour has it we scare the foreigners with their dainty 5.56-rifles when we're in joint exercises. :D )

Oh, and to bring this back on topic: This looks like a clear case of try-before-you-buy to me. OTOH BF1924 is still fun, so I have some hope for this one.
(Now, is BF1942 good enough that I don't need a newer version? We'll see, I guess.)
 
Sometimes I get kicked after a few minutes of playing, anybody having "connection lost" problems?
 
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