lmao check out 50cents ego

Bo_Bice said:
You can word it however you feel like. The fact remains that you blame peoples behaviour on the media.

Keep banging those rocks together. Some day you might just make fire.
 
You can word it however you feel like. The fact remains that you blame peoples behaviour on the media.


Thats the way your putting it out to be. Thats the way I see it.
 
You notice how you said the other kids started to do what you were doing wrong, well that should show how impressionable they are. Now relate that to how these people are doing these things to personify the negative stereotype and kids being as impressionable as they are WILL fall prey to that, regarless of thier own desires to. Kids dont realize the negative long term aspects of decisions they make. Youve faced them yourself, saying you were in a special class, that is a consequence of your actions, and if the teachers hadnt seperated you from other kids they would have done the same thing.

Those that are the stereotype = you
The kids that buy into the game and think its cool = the kids in your school that did stuff like you cause they thought it was cool
Parents saying FUCK NO = teachers stepping in seperating you from it to not influence them further

In summation you were a product of your environment, ok, fine, but by doing what you did and the kids thought that was cool, the other kids became a product of your environment too, and thats not fair to them

pointed at S0m, not maliciously, but observantly

huff...huff... ninja typing at work
 
Damn...what happened to the comedy in this thread. Was LMAO at

versello said:
His music makes my ears bleed whenever I flip the TV channels and stumble across MTV playing his songs. I shreek in pain everytime and end up huddling in the corner of my room.
 
S0m30n3 said:
... Schools didnt know how to deal with me because I could manipulate everyone to get what I wanted. ... They made me who I am and I couldn't do a damn thing about it neither could my mom. ...

Does anyone else see the glaring inconsistency between those two sentences?
 
Cardboard Hammer said:
Does anyone else see the glaring inconsistency between those two sentences?


The only thing they did was place me in a different school and isolate me. Which was after years of trying to get me expelled. Then after I realised my mistakes I still had to suffer for about 5years.
 
Sigh... do you guys want to know about my childhood and the reasons why I am who I am and why my education isnt that great?
 
Course games influence people,

Soldiers in Iraq were heard to be comparing Vehicle borne Patrols to playing GTA, this was heard while they were still being shot at.

I mean if you are being shot at and thats still whats coming into your head then thats obviously a pretty strong mental connection :)
 
S0m30n3 said:
Sigh... do you guys want to know about my childhood and the reasons why I am who I am and why my education isnt that great?


No... I want this thread to go back on topic...


Point is this game looks like crap. Not because of the viiolence etc... but because I don't want to play a game that inflates some "musician's" ego. I bet 50cent couldn't do half of the things he does in that cutscene. Yes I know it is a game. Yes it's makebelieve. But come on... at least master chief has a reason to be bad ass. Gordon Freeman actually has a reason to shoot people. Counter-Strike has reasons. It's the anonymous, or makebelieve that makes a game. 50cent is quite possibly the worst idea for a game character ever.
 
I guess vin diesel can do all those things he does in the movies\game. Your singling out one person and hating him when theres a whole society of them.
 
S0m30n3 said:
I guess vin diesel can do all those things he does in the movies\game. Your singling out one person and hating him when theres a whole society of them.

No I am not... I am talking about them all. I didn't feel like typing out every shitty game and actor in it.

Besides Vin Diesel was at least in a movie, and at least used SOME talent. 50cent bypassed everything requiring talent and went straight to shit.
 
d34dly said:
No I am not... I am talking about them all. I didn't feel like typing out every shitty game and actor in it.

Besides Vin Diesel was at least in a movie, and at least used SOME talent. 50cent bypassed everything requiring talent and went straight to shit.


Now thats its brought up it turned into all of them. Your right just because he has some acting talent makes it ok to be the star in a game. Your opinion is biased. And since your already saying the game is shit thats prejudice which go hand in hand.
 
50 has no talent
he just sells millions of records because of being shot 9 times
:rolleyes:
 
honkee said:
50 has no talent
he just sells millions of records because of being shot 9 times
:rolleyes:

I guess if some guy whos had his legs and arms blown off and shot 15times comes back from iraq and makes a rap song he's sure to become a big hit?
 
S0m30n3 said:
Now thats its brought up it turned into all of them. Your right just because he has some acting talent makes it ok to be the star in a game. Your opinion is biased. And since your already saying the game is shit thats prejudice.

biased toward what? What has 50cent done to even compare to starring in a movie? Do you know how much work goes into making a movie? You may think Vin Diesel is a shitty actor but you can't deny that he at least works hard. What has 50cent done to warrant a game made after him? Gotten shot? I don't see our soldiers who survived getting shot getting put in games.

He is doing nothing but voice acting. All he is doing is glorifying the thug image like everyone says. It's a shitty game because the charatcer in it has nothing that makes him unique. He is just a pompous moron who shoots a pistol the wrong way and unbelievably stuns people by throwing guns at them. Piss on it...
 
d34dly said:
50cent bypassed everything requiring talent and went straight to shit.

Bias: A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.

Prejudice: An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.
 
S0m30n3 said:
Bias: A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.

Prejudice: An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.

Oh good so you can look shit up in a dictionary... good for you. Seems you learned something school. You're biased yourself by bullshitting everyone here and blaming your "educational system" for letting you fall through the cracks. False... it's your own responsibility. You're biased toward your own experiences and use that to justify your actions and possibly his. You will not acknowledge anyone elses point of view and that makes YOU biased.

And maybe I am biased. Maybe having a bias in this case is good. I have a bias toward talent and he has none. His music is crap and his image has no endearing qualities. He lacks everything and contributes nothing. This game is going to suck. The character invokes no good feelings and there is nothing special about it.

Wow a game where I can play a gangster and shoot other gangsters. Yes I know there are many games like this one just in different forms, but I also dislike those so you can stay off that one too.
 
d34dly said:
Oh good so you can look shit up in a dictionary... good for you. Seems you learned something school. You're biased yourself by bullshitting everyone here and blaming your "educational system" for letting you fall through the cracks. False... it's your own responsibility. You're biased toward your own experiences and use that to justify your actions and possibly his. You will not acknowledge anyone elses point of view and that makes YOU biased.

And maybe I am biased. Maybe having a bias in this case is good. I have a bias toward talent and he has none. His music is crap and his image has no endearing qualities. He lacks everything and contributes nothing. This game is going to suck. The character invokes no good feelings and there is nothing special about it.

Wow a game where I can play a gangster and shoot other gangsters. Yes I know there are many games like this one just in different forms, but I also dislike those so you can stay off that one too.


Now you want to know about my education and my childhood? It involves the ghetto abuse being kidnapped and being homeless. Its not my fault.

I acknowledge your point of view it's you that won't acknowledge anyone else's. He has no talent? Right, thats why he has so much money. I like his music well a few of the songs just because you see it as crap doesnt mean you can force your biased opinion on other people. It's not his game, they aren't his ideas he's just a marketing tool which will make them lots of money.
 
bonkrowave said:
See that's the thing. He is in fact hurting someone.

He is proliferating negative stereotypes against black people. By putting him up on a pedestal, you are allowing a younger generation to accept him as a role model. A former thug, gangster, drug dealer should never be thought of as a role model. He is hurting an entire race of people by perpetuating negative stereotypes against black people.

I see an entire generation of young people every day who dress, talk, and act like thugs. One just needs to watch the news to see the school yard fights that have turned into knife and fun fights. Where do you think they got the idea, that its ok to solve your problems with violence, or that violence somehow gives you respect or credibility on the street.

Not to mention that promiscuity has somehow become cool ? Peoples morals and ethics are going right down the toilet and its people like him that shoulder some of the responsibility, as they are ones who glorify this unrealistic lifestyle.

That's the problem, and yes he is hurting someone, its an entire generation that doesn't realize what he does is not "cool".

Jealousy .... HA .... more like reality.

I agree with this.
 
Just as in another thread where some people are laughing at the contradiction in thought concerning sex and violence (related to GTA:SA), I really don't see how most of you can say that video games don't have an influence on people.....but rappers do??

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of them have any real influence on culture. On the contrary, they are a by-product of our culture and society today, not the cause.

For you to say that 50 Cent is influencing girls to be promiscuous, kids to solve problems with violence, etc....and not acknowledge, in the least, that games (yes, I know they're not real) have influence on people in any way, shape, or form is poor logic in my opinion.

If you want to say that games influence behavior to a lesser degree, then fine, that's acceptable.
 
"If you want to say that games influence behavior to a lesser degree, then fine, that's acceptable."

I can agree with that but it's a very thin line. Sure kids are influenced easier than adults but when people make statements claiming its the fault of somebody like 50 because he was brought up in that kind of environment and talks about it publicly isn't fair its just cop-out. If games\rap influenced people as much as people say, the world would be full of millions of thug wannabe's and stabbing\shootings would happen in every neighborhood. Just because a small minority of the people mimic what they saw on t.v or hear on the radio doesn't mean you can judge the whole system and claim it's something more than its not. Thats why people get nowhere with these claims they make and they get thrown out of court and dont get the millions they are sueing for. I just wish people would realize this and stop trying to make it something more than it is.
 
S0m30n3 said:
If games\rap influenced people as much as people say, the world would be full of millions of thug wannabe's and stabbing\shootings would happen in every neighborhood.

News Flash - the world IS full of millions of thug wannabes and stabbings/shootings happen in every town and city. Even small towns are not immune.
 
wfalcon said:
News Flash - the world IS full of millions of thug wannabes and stabbings/shootings happen in every town and city. Even small towns are not immune.


News flash its only a small amount of people who blame there actions on other people\games.

How many adults let there kids watch violent movies and play violent games or watch t.v? And how many of those kids act upon it? How about you back-up your claims with proven facts and statistics which I dont think there or atleast that I could find besides what a few thousand adults think. Maybe there's not enough claims to make a statistic on it?
 
Yeah, seriously, back up with some statistics...people over-react to the amount of violence in this country because it's all you hear about in the media.

According to the CDC...you've heard of them, right?....a kid has a better chance of being struck by lightning than being killed in school.

Also, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning...twice...than being in a terrorist attack. Yet, if you watch the news or go to the airport, you'd think this was an everyday occurence.

Things like Mad Cow, violence amongst the younger people, etc...are all blown way out of proportion due to the abnormal amount of airtime they get in relation to the frequency that they occur.

For you people who are saying that violence is so bad nowadays, kids are out killing left and right...I'd really like to know what neighborhoods you guys live in...

I'd be willing to bet good money that 95% of you have never even seen a truly violent act first-hand in your lifetime, save television.
 
And some lyrics he also says in a song.

Tossed and turned in my sleep at night
Woke up the next morning !!!!!s done stole my bike
Different day same shit, ain't nothing good in the hood
I'd run away from this bitch and never come back if I could

[Chorus (50 Cent & The Game):]
Hate it or love it the underdog's on top
And I'm gonna shine homie until my heart stop
 
pistola said:
Thats not true, your looking in the wrong places.

How bout, Talib Kwali, Mos Def, The Roots, Jurassic 5, to mention a few.

Don't forget Common... I really like that new Talib Kweli.. but anyway, why are we talking about rap and not the game itself? I'm not a big fan of 50 but damn everyone feels the need to talk about social issues and other shit. IMHO 50's wack always has been, and we really can't make any comments about the game until they show some actual in game footage. Hell this thread actually sounds exactly like the last thread about this damn game.
 
Wow it is really amazing that some people have no clue what so ever. You want me to back up what Im saying with stats ... well here you go.

http://www.fradical.com/Violent_crime_statistics_Canada.htm

link1 said:
"In 1999, violent crimes accounted for one in five youths charged with a Criminal Code offence. The rate of youths charged with violent crimes began to fall only recently, with a 2% drop in 1997, a 1% decrease in 1998, and a 5% drop in 1999. Despite these declines, the 1999 youth violent crime rate remained 41% higher than it was a decade earlier."

In a December 2004 article on youth crime, the Toronto Sun reported the following: "While the number of all crime cases heard in Canadian youth court has dropped 20% over the last decade, violent crimes cases -- for homicide, sexual assault, assault and robbery -- have jumped 25% over the same period, reports Statistics Canada.

"Separate stats from the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics (CCJS) show an increase of 13% in the youth violent crime rate between 1993-2003, with a significant jump in 2000 after a decade of relative stability." The complete article follows along with additional items.

So lets see:

Violent youth crime up 41% in a decade
Violent criminal cases rose 25% in a decade
Increase of 13% in youth violent crime.

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040728/d040728a.htm

link2 said:
Violent crime among youth was up 3%, also the third increase in four years. Increases were reported in the rate of youths accused of homicide, attempted murder and assault. Declines were reported for sexual assault and robbery.

The youth property crime rate increased 4% in 2003, following three years of relative stability. This was driven by a 7% increase in the rate of break-ins and a 6% increase in the rate of thefts under $5,000. The rate of young people accused of motor vehicle theft fell 7%.

The crime rate among young people aged 12 to 17, as measured by the total number accused by police, increased 5% last year. It was the third gain in the last four years.

So apparently this is just the media blowing it out of proportion ? :rolleyes:
Granted these are numbers from Canada, but if you believe it is any different in the states, you are sadly mistaken.
 
Well is the population the same or has it increased causing it to look like an increase in crime?
 
The stats are right there, you can chose to accept them or pull the wool over your eyes. Note these are stats, not from some shady site, but rather Stats Canada, operated by the Canadian government.

If everyone wants to turn a blind eye to the truth, so be it. Ignorance is bliss after all.
 
I would still like to know the facts in that study population wise which is valid. When clearly it says nothing about the population being bigger. Also how does it relate to people blaming games for ones actions?
 
S0m30n3 said:
I would still like to know the facts in that study population wise which is valid. When clearly it says nothing about the population being bigger. Also how does it relate to people blaming games for ones actions?

They don't show it because it has nothing to do with it. A growing population doesn't mean jack in this case. Yeah you can cry and say the percentages woul dbe off... but if the population grows shouldn't the percentage drop? All your argument would mean is that the population grew and the violence still grew with it. It shouldn't be that way. Population growth or not... it is STILL and increase in crime.

No one is discounting the violence in GTA: SA. My argument was at how retarded the game looked anyway. I don't give a shit about the violence. It's that 50cent is the worst choice for a game charatcer... bleh.
 
d34dly said:
They don't show it because it has nothing to do with it. A growing population doesn't mean jack in this case. Yeah you can cry and say the percentages woul dbe off... but if the population grows shouldn't the percentage drop? All your argument would mean is that the population grew and the violence still grew with it. It shouldn't be that way. Population growth or not... it is STILL and increase in crime.

No one is discounting the violence in GTA: SA. My argument was at how retarded the game looked anyway. I don't give a shit about the violence. It's that 50cent is the worst choice for a game charatcer... bleh.

Theres many variable factors that need to be changed for it to be even close to accurate.

How is he the worst choice? You haven't even given him a chance. Once again thats prejudice.
 
S0m30n3 said:
Theres many variable factors that need to be changed for it to be even close to accurate.

Is it really that hard to understand. If there was a higher population that would mean more people are doing crimes then with a lower population ... because these are percentages. This is a very accurate study done by a government regulated body.

You have yet to show any stats, links, or anything which back up your claims. You are basing you entire argument on stereotypes and prejudices which you subscribe to. You then accuse someone else of prejudice ? Those in glass houses should not throw stones.
 
bonkrowave said:
Is it really that hard to understand. If there was a higher population that would mean more people are doing crimes then with a lower population ... because these are percentages. This is a very accurate study done by a government regulated body.


hold on
 
S0m30n3 said:
It doesn't say more people have been convicted of crimes just crime is up in general which is a result when th epopulation increases.

Violent youth crime up 41% in a decade
Violent criminal cases rose 25% in a decade
Increase of 13% in youth violent crime.

Can you not read ? It is not a result of the population increase, honestly the truth is staring you right in the face and you chose to remain ignorant.
 
bonkrowave said:
Violent youth crime up 41% in a decade
Violent criminal cases rose 25% in a decade
Increase of 13% in youth violent crime.

Can you not read ? It is not a result of the population increase, honestly the truth is staring you right in the face and you chose to remain ignorant.


Thats why I edited my post the second I made it :p but it still doesn't state convicted of crimes just criminal cases against them. Or how it relates to games being the cause of these crimes.
 
S0m30n3 said:
News flash its only a small amount of people who blame there actions on other people\games.

How many adults let there kids watch violent movies and play violent games or watch t.v? And how many of those kids act upon it? How about you back-up your claims with proven facts and statistics which I dont think there or atleast that I could find besides what a few thousand adults think. Maybe there's not enough claims to make a statistic on it?

The original point was whether or not there were "millions of thug wannabes in the world", which disproved your theory. However, I also disagree with your new claim. If only a small amount of people blamed games, you would not see the increase in popularity and air time that some of these groups are getting. Now, I'm not saying that games cause violence. I was playing games before some of you were even born. However, inappropriate parenting should be blamed for letting kids play or watch violent games in the first place. There is no way I will let my kids watch me play Doom 3 or see violent movies until they are old and mature enough to understand. But to say that these things would not have an influence on anyone not mature enough to understand is pure denial.

Legend said:
Also, you have a better chance of being struck by ightning...twice...than being in a terrorist attack. Yet, if you watch the news or go to the airport, you'd think this was an everyday occurence.

FUCK you. It IS an everyday occurrance. Try visiting Israel or Iraq sometime. What the hell do you know? Why don't YOU pull some statistics out of your ass? I was in a terrorist attack not too long ago. Thanks to a suicide bomber, I have severe nerve damage in my right leg and my knee will never be the same. I also recently found a third piece of shrapnel that entered my jacket and would have penetrated my chest had I not dove for cover. Why don't you tell your bullshit to the families of victims in the 9/11 attacks.
 
S0m30n3 said:
Theres many variable factors that need to be changed for it to be even close to accurate.

How is he the worst choice? You haven't even given him a chance. Once again thats prejudice.

It's not prejudice it's my opinion. And many others as well it appears. He is a real life character being portrayed as a "superhero" in a game. And it's not like he is an actor playing the part of a superhere... they just took a real character, changed nothing, and made him into some thug hero.

It's not prejudice. If I were prejudice I would say something to the effect of "rap stars can't be game heros". I didn't say that. What i said is that 50cent and his character in the game (so far anyway) appear to be nothing but egotistical. It's already a ridiculous idea. Anyone around here knows that 50cent could not possibly ever walk into a mob hideout and blast everyone, stun them by throwing guns, and suddenly know martial arts and the use of an AK. Wow... now maybe if he had stepped into some thugged out radioactive bling juice, and transformed into the thugganator, I might be interested.
 
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