Teh Uber L33t Aqua-Computer Thread :)

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mj007 said:
My Laing DDC had the loudest and most annoying whine I've ever heard of ANY of my computer components. It was louder (by far) than my fans, my Raptors, and everything else in my computer room. The whine was so loud I could hear it out in my living room. The only way to somewhat tame it was to undervolt it. I was incredibly happy when I sold it. Back to Eheim! :p
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Was it a DDC or a D4? What you're describing sounds like a D4's whine.

Basically did it look like this?

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or like this?

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Top Nurse said:
Jeez I wasn't trying to [H]ard! He's the guy who knew the answer to a question he asked and knew he was full of shit when he asked it. Old law school adage is to never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to. Besides instead of bagging on you to delete that pic he should have just admitted that he either didn't know what was going on or he told a fib. :rolleyes:
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If you know so much about the in's and out's of everything AC you should have guessed AC berlin has nothing to do with AC other than selling products. Also the pics were taken down because of the 20-40 year old cry babies, know one asked me to just thought it was a good idea for future reference ;)
 
Aviddigi said:
If you know so much about the in's and out's of everything AC you should have guessed AC berlin has nothing to do with AC other than selling products. Also the pics were taken down because of the 20-40 year old cry babies, know one asked me to just thought it was a good idea for future reference ;)
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AC Berlin is actually a very close friend of the other AC guys, and a moderator on their forum. They have LAN parties at his place from time to time, so I'm sure he does get juicy info on their products too, especially if he's the first one to get anything to sell.
 
Pooky said:
AC Berlin is actually a very close friend of the other AC guys, and a moderator on their forum. They have LAN parties at his place from time to time, so I'm sure he does get juicy info on their products too, especially if he's the first one to get anything to sell.
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If you read my post from the last page where a quote was taken from stephan at AC berlin you would have figured out that we know this. But they have no control over what makes it to the states or not ( new equipment etc. )
 
Aviddigi said:
If you read my post from the last page where a quote was taken from stephan at AC berlin you would have figured out that we know this. But they have no control over what makes it to the states or not ( new equipment etc. )
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:( Oh well, this thread's to big to keep up with the 'pecking' order. So he doesn't, but what do you care anyway? Do you have any control over what makes it here?
 
Pooky said:
:( Oh well, this thread's to big to keep up with the 'pecking' order. So he doesn't, but what do you care anyway? Do you have any control over what makes it here?
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Man if your not going to read the post's im not saying anything, but thanks for the input
 
Cathar said:
Was it a DDC or a D4? What you're describing sounds like a D4's whine.

Basically did it look like this?

ddc_100w.jpg


or like this?

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Whoops my bad. D4 it is.
 
Top Nurse said:
BTW, Sharka doesn't sell the DDC pump because it is too noisy and they specialize in quiet computing. ;)
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I went to extra pains to use a DDC in my setup instead of a Aquastream because of size.

If my DDC pump is what someone would call noisy, I want to hear their version of silent!

Maybe I got lucky but my DDC is _completely_ silent.
 
WarlordBB said:
I went to extra pains to use a DDC in my setup instead of a Aquastream because of size.

If my DDC pump is what someone would call noisy, I want to hear their version of silent!

Maybe I got lucky but my DDC is _completely_ silent.
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Your talking to the wrong person. Call Sharka if you want to know why. However, I can tell you that at one time A-C was going to sell the DDC but the first time they put it in an AquaBay it vibrated and made a odd sound that resonated through the case. Since then they have started selling it due to popular demand, but they don't want to hear anything about it being noisy or causing other problems with their systems.

However, I am curious as to what you like about it? Any change in temps? Did you have any problems with bubbles in the Aquatube or lines due to a higher flow rate?
 
Cathar said:
Oh really? I guess he was probably referring to this post by you just 5 days ago:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027773469&postcount=25

Have you ever actually haerd a Laing DDC T_N?
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I'm so glad to have my nanny here :) Actually if you would have taken the time to read back about 17 posts you would see where it was quoted :rolleyes: and we were discussing why he couldn't get a DDC from Sharka. But since you don't seem to have the time I will re-post it for your perusal:

nigely said:
its not about payment, my paypal account is verfried and address confirmed, i dont mind waiting for a few days til the money is withdrawn to their account, they told me they dont have the stuff i want in stock and they told me to buy it from japan, but the distrubutor in japan chargers 1.5 times more and i have to do a bank transfer which work out even more than SNT
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Top Nurse said:
What country do you hail from? BTW, Sharka doesn't sell the DDC pump because it is too noisy and they specialize in quiet computing.
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But back to your question, actually yes I have. When everyone was talking about them I asked A-C why they deep sixed the DDC out of their plans (I saw one on their forum) and they told me it was really noisy and didn't fit in their quiet computing ideas. Of course after listening to everyone else I did go borrow one from a friend and mounted it in an AquaBay. I turned it right off too as it caused an odd vibration and noise, which was exactly what A-C said. I'm feel quite fortunate that I didn't buy one or I would have been trying to eliminate all the bubbles that a few people are reporting when using these pumps along with Aquatubes and or small tubes.
 
Well then, one could only put your experience down to user error through poor vibration dampening. This is a fault of the user not isolating the mounting correctly, and not the pump.

The DDC is not loud at all if mounted correctly. Volume wise it is about mid-way between an Eheim 1048 and an Eheim 1250.

One of the biggest issues with so-called "pump noise" is not the pump itself, but whatever it is sitting on vibrating. Calling a pump noisy because of user error, is purely the fault of the user.

I'm not your nanny. I'm just here to stem the flow of brown stuff from your keyboard.
 
Is that the DDC with the clear plexi bottom made over somewhere in Europe? Does having that on it help with that vibration and noise problem I was having with it? I had seen that plexi bottom and others have mentioned that it might mitigate the noise problem. Also can you get a flash pic for me so I can see better what you did?

So what did you do different?
 
Cathar said:
Well then, one could only put your experience down to user error through poor vibration dampening. This is a fault of the user not isolating the mounting correctly, and not the pump.

The DDC is not loud at all if mounted correctly. Volume wise it is about mid-way between an Eheim 1048 and an Eheim 1250.

One of the biggest issues with so-called "pump noise" is not the pump itself, but whatever it is sitting on vibrating. Calling a pump noisy because of user error, is purely the fault of the user.

I'm not your nanny. I'm just here to stem the flow of brown stuff from your keyboard.
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Well since what happened to me is exactly what AC told me I didn't see any reason to pursue it. But what makes you think I didn't have an isolation mount on it?

Actually I kind of feel honored that you have chosen me to help out. Please feel free to follow me around everywhere I go. Would you like a list of all the places I post at?

Well see ya again my dear nanny :)
 
nigely said:
top nurse
here it is for you
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Thanks for the pics! Is that tube coming down from the top your fill port line? Are you running an Aquajet? And how full is the Aquatube? What do you attribute to getting rid of all the bubbles?
 
Top Nurse said:
Well since what happened to me is exactly what AC told me I didn't see any reason to pursue it. But what makes you think I didn't have an isolation mount on it?
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Because you are the only person who I think anyone has ever heard in an English speaking country say that the Laing DDC is so loud that we all need to have our ears checked.
 
Top Nurse said:
Thanks for the pics! Is that tube coming down from the top your fill port line? Are you running an Aquajet? And how full is the Aquatube? What do you attribute to getting rid of all the bubbles?
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sorry for the bad picture, too hard to take a nice picture without tripot
DDC is not that loud, but it is louder than the Aqua stream

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Cathar said:
Because you are the only person who I think anyone has ever heard in an English speaking country say that the Laing DDC is so loud that we all need to have our ears checked.
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See the previous post my dear nanny :) Noise is a relative concept as I pointed out in another thread recently. I'm happy for you that you think it is a silent pump. Please feel free to recommend it to anyone you know as it won't bother me in the least. OTOH I will not and I hope that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :)
 
nigely said:
sorry for the bad picture, too hard to take a nice picture without tripot
DDC is not that loud, but it is louder than the Aqua stream

QHIo_IMG_0728%20(Small).jpg
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Actually that is a pretty nice pic! Thank you :D So your input is in the middle and your output to the pump is on the bottom that I can see?
 
Top Nurse said:
Actually that is a pretty nice pic! Thank you :D So your input is in the middle and your output to the pump is on the bottom that I can see?
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yes my input is in the middle, and i have 2 output, thats the hole under it, its better to feed more water to the DDC, becoz G1/8 isnt really enough

after changing to DDC the cpu temp decrease about 1-2c, but my aquastream is not overclocked, its the oldest controller, so changing from aqua stream at 74hz to a DDC might not make that much diff
 
VapoerChill LS is only $850.

By the time you buy all that expensive german watercooling gear you could get a vapoerchill, and run -45'C
 
Top Nurse said:
Noise is a relative concept as I pointed out in another thread recently. I'm happy for you that you think it is a silent pump.
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Ah, but I did not express it in relative terms. I gave a very real frame of reference:

Cathar said:
The DDC is not loud at all if mounted correctly. Volume wise it is about mid-way between an Eheim 1048 and an Eheim 1250.
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I did not state that it was quiet to me as a relative concept to my personal definiton of quiet. I stated how noisy it was relative to other well known pumps.

You really do have no idea of what I am about though. Our goals have far more in common than you realise. I am an extremely heavy proponent of quiet/silent water-cooling. Read any other forums that I am active at and you would realise this. I personally don't even consider the Eheim 1048 to be that quiet, but it is certainly quiet enough for most people to recommend it, and sadly it is a fairly lonely choice.

The thing that differs between you and me, is that you talk in delusional absolutes because that it all you understand. I actually strive to give out information that allows people to gain a real sense of what is being discussed with relevant frames of reference, without resorting to unfounded and vague statements of extremes to present my point of view.

Where I give real and actual facts, you counter by speaking in opinions that contradict known facts, and attacking others (not just me) for daring to inject a little bit of realism into the discussion, and do so, just like you showed above, by ignoring the relevant points that people present and concocting points of view for people that they never presented.
 
On a side note, there is a new Aquastream controller available.

It's version 3.5 with firmware 1.31.
The main changes are a slight layout-modification and a new jumper-block for overclcoking the pump without the Aquaero.
 
J-Mag said:
nigely: What kinda tubing is this. It doesn't looks like the Plug N Cool Hose as it is a tad clearer...
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they are PU tube, 8x6mm
they are quite cheap, 1USD you can get 5.2 feet
 
Shoggy said:
On a side note, there is a new Aquastream controller available.

It's version 3.5 with firmware 1.31.
The main changes are a slight layout-modification and a new jumper-block for overclcoking the pump without the Aquaero.
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I don't believe it you weren't kidding this time! So will this be a fixed OC or is it somewhat adjustable? Will there be any interaction problems if I am interfacing both a version 3 pump and a version 3.5 pump on an Aquaero?

BTW, what is the proper cable to attach two Aquastreams? I have been looking around on the A-C webshop, but can't see any pics. A part number would be fantastic!

Was this the reason that Aquastreams became in short supply recently? Sharka just had 20 of them delivered to IT-Trade last Friday along with my Silber XT :D Do you think those pumps have the new controller?
 
Top Nurse said:
Will there be any interaction problems if I am interfacing both a version 3 pump and a version 3.5 pump on an Aquaero?

BTW, what is the proper cable to attach two Aquastreams? I have been looking around on the A-C webshop, but can't see any pics. A part number would be fantastic!
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Should work without any problems.

That cable is a custom product. You will have to ask to get one.
 
just a few quick questions....

how do you fill a aquatube if it's mounted horizontally?

and does anyone have experience with the aquainlet? it seems a little sketchy if its held to the pump by a simple rubber ring.

thanks guys :)
 
sleepydano said:
just a few quick questions....

how do you fill a aquatube if it's mounted horizontally?
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umm change the posistion of the case so its vertical, then once filled reposistion the case?
hehe
 
sleepydano said:
how do you fill a aquatube if it's mounted horizontally? and does anyone have experience with the aquainlet? it seems a little sketchy if its held to the pump by a simple rubber ring.
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I have no idea how that Aquainlet fits onto an Aquastream or Eheim pump. There are some pics here and I think it better explains how it goes on at Sharka Corp. The link I provided says that it simply slides over the intake fitting and seals with an o-ring. Since there is no major water pressure in that reservoir I'm sure it seals quite well. :)

As far as the Aquatube goes there are two ways. The most commonly used method is to lay your computer on its back, pop the plexi, and pour. The other method is to utilize a Danger Den Fillport with a tube running to the back of the Aquatube and then you can fill and bleed to your hearts content without having to open the Aquatube.
 
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