Little to no shimmering w/ Forceware upgrade.

Khaotica

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Long story short, I recently upgraded to some Forcewares 67.02 and 67.03 and encounter horrendous amounts of shimmering in HL2 (pretty much everywhere I looked there was some shimmering god it was annoying), more so than any previous Forceware that I could rememeber. Utterly disgusted and unwilling to downgrade to my 65.73 or the ones on nVidia's download site, I tried the 71.20s that are around the net and those babies rock. Little to no shimmering in HL2 or any other game that I've played so far. So I recommend upgrading to them even though they aren't official releases yet if you are experiencing any shimmering problems. Best of luck. Anyone else experience this luck?
 
give me a link to the drivers and I will give ya my results! Had you tried the Negative LOD Clamp before?
 
Khaotica said:
I tried the 71.20s that are around the net and those babies rock. Little to no shimmering in HL2 or any other game that I've played so far.

Can you test out Riddick? I've got massive amounts of shimmering on it but apparently it's just the engine. Can any ATI guys back this up?
 
Punisher77 said:
Can you test out Riddick? I've got massive amounts of shimmering on it but apparently it's just the engine. Can any ATI guys back this up?

Yep, this game has the worsest texture aliasing i've ever seen. Enabling FSAA helps, but the "problem" stays. (i think the "always moving camera look" is one of the things that causes it.)

whats shimmering?

The term "shimmering" can be used for two things: aliased textures (despite of having turned FSAA on) or (ground- or wall-) texture 'crawling'.
 
Apple740 said:
The term "shimmering" can be used for two things: aliased textures (despite of having turned FSAA on) or (ground- or wall-) texture 'crawling'.

Explain this crawling.
 
wait, I thought that was just the nature of the beast... as in every video card on every computer does that. It's a nvidia thing?
 
DarthWombaT said:
wait, I thought that was just the nature of the beast... as in every video card on every computer does that. It's a nvidia thing?


Most of the worst cases, yes.
 
well what i mean by shimmering whihc others might not agree with are those annoying white lines or just graphical glitches that happen between mipmap lines and they are annoying as hell to say the least. supposely they come on when you use AF or something. here is a link from guru3d that i found.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=931

thats the link. like i said it got it to get rid of those annoying white areas inbetween mipmaps that show up with this upgrade.

ps that video, i didnt see any of the graphical glitches that ih ad freed myself of
 
oh is it like when theres that boundary in the distance where the texture quality all of a sudden drops
 
It´s the "movement" (shimmering) on the floor textures at the height of the aim point.
 
karl76 said:
It´s the "movement" (shimmering) on the floor textures at the height of the aim point.

I've always thought of shimmering as aliasing on the edges of objects even if you have AA on.
 
Punisher77 said:
I've always thought of shimmering as aliasing on the edges of objects even if you have AA on.

AFAIK that can be also considered shimmering, but in the video that Apple posted, is shimmering the one I tried to describe.

Thankfully its a fixible and not a permanent problem, and definitly not a NV-only problem. The main cause of shimmering on NV68x cards are the LOD settings though and I think messed up AF (or was it AA) filter on some beta drivers with certain games.
 
easiest way to get rid of shimmering:

1. download/install 67.02, 67.03, or 71.20
2. Under performance/quality settings, change quality level to "High Quality"
3. Under advanced performance/quality options, change Negative LOD Bias to "Clamp"

Do those three things and shimmering should be minimal.
 
^ ^ ^ What he said.

I had horrible shimmering on UT2004, and once I enabled set the Negative LOD Bias to Clamp, it got rid of 95% of the shimmering.
 
Will it fix this? (Change hxxp to http)

Normal

hxxp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/pocius/de_prodigy0003.jpg

Weird Distortion (look at the straight lines)

hxxp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/pocius/de_prodigy0000.jpg

....When I was loading these pictures up, though, i noticed something up.....in low res resized, the one w/o distortion HAS distortion on the straight lines...

(low res of the normal pic hxxp://photobucket.com/albums/v384/pocius/th_de_prodigy0003.jpg)
 
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