Which RTX 4090 card are you planning or consider to get?

lopoetve said:
Even then I can be unhappy with the precedent being set by extreme pricing. Heck, I don't even pay for parts of my systems, thanks to various things, and I don't like what the pricing is doing to the hobby. :(
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Do you really understand how much companies like Nvidia spend in R+D to make these chips. BILLIONS. So they have to make that back and a profit. Plus all the other shit that is going on in our world. I remember there is still a chip shortage still happening. Look we have big inflation going on and it still going to get worst! Wait till next month when the gas prices are going back up! Everything else will go up again.
 
Airbrushkid said:
Do you really understand how much companies like Nvidia spend in R+D to make these chips. BILLIONS. So they have to make that back and a profit. Plus all the other shit that is going on in our world. I remember there is still a chip shortage still happening. Look we have big inflation going on and it still going to get worst! Wait till next month when the gas prices are going back up! Everything else will go up again.
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I work in this industry, and until just recently worked for one of the largest Nvidia partners (on the enterprise and datacenter side), so yes, I most definitely do understand what it costs and what they're working on.
 
Was thinking of getting one of Gigabytes 4090's. They have a 4 year warranty. The partners give a 3 year warranty. I could be wrong.
 
Zorachus said:
Would be curious people who are actually buying an RTX-4090 at lunch, what card do they currently have?

Yes if you have a 1080 To or 2080 Ti yes a 4090 is understandable to a degree.

But there's no way anyone with a 3090 or 3090 Ti u
Is buying a 4090? That would be clinically insane.

But whatever, it's your money, and I guess people have zero concern in being the cause of skyrocketing GPU prices.
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Just like buying another set of fancy overpriced sneakers. Another gun for the collection. Another project car.

It's what we do.
 
I hear you all, I understand, it's a hobby and fun to have the latest and greatest. My beef really isn't the pricing as much, that's secondary actually. The thing I find ridiculously stupid, is just the GIGANTIC size of the 4090, it's literally the size of the X-Box or PS5 console, and the the power draw and heat it produces, requiring 1200w PSUs now. Ugh, come on that's just silly. I want to see computer components get more efficient, run cooler, be smaller, etc...but still give excellent high performance. Not go the opposite way of larger and hotter.
 
pututu said:
Due to the humongous size of these air cool 4090 cards, how many are considering AIO such as MSI suprim liquid x, gigabyte waterforce or custom loop option? Currently I've an AIO EVGA hybrid card which runs great. I'll probably sit out of the air cool option for now and wait for the dust to settle.



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Absolutely getting a block for the 4090. I have the 3090 and 3090ti on loops and the size difference in the case makes me laugh.
 
Zorachus said:
I hear you all, I understand, it's a hobby and fun to have the latest and greatest. My beef really isn't the pricing as much, that's secondary actually. The thing I find ridiculously stupid, is just the GIGANTIC size of the 4090, it's literally the size of the X-Box or PS5 console, and the the power draw and heat it produces, requiring 1200w PSUs now. Ugh, come on that's just silly. I want to see computer components get more efficient, run cooler, be smaller, etc...but still give excellent high performance. Not go the opposite way of larger and hotter.
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We will see. I'm going to try and run it on my current EVGA 750-watt G2. It will have to share the power with a 5800x3D, so as long as it stays within the 450-500 watt envelope, it should never exceed 750-watts... hopefully.
 
madpistol said:
We will see. I'm going to try and run it on my current EVGA 750-watt G2. It will have to share the power with a 5800x3D, so as long as it stays within the 450-500 watt envelope, it should never exceed 750-watts... hopefully.
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It will be fine most likely. I run my 450w BIOS 3080 with a 12700K on my EVGA 750w G3 with no problems at all.
 
Zorachus said:
I hear you all, I understand, it's a hobby and fun to have the latest and greatest. My beef really isn't the pricing as much, that's secondary actually. The thing I find ridiculously stupid, is just the GIGANTIC size of the 4090, it's literally the size of the X-Box or PS5 console, and the the power draw and heat it produces, requiring 1200w PSUs now. Ugh, come on that's just silly. I want to see computer components get more efficient, run cooler, be smaller, etc...but still give excellent high performance. Not go the opposite way of larger and hotter.
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Which 4090 requires a 1200W PSU?
 
sk3tch said:
NVIDIA themselves says 850W.
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Unless benchmarks are a huge disappointment, I plan to buy a 4090 on the 12th. I'm going to find out the hard way if my Superflower 850w Leadex III Gold will be able to power my 5900X and a 4090. The PSU is less than a year old and got good reviews. If that doesn't work, I still have my previous 1000w PSU from 2007 that was still working fine when I removed it last year. Best-case scenario, the 850w works great. Worst-case scenario, I end up with 2 dead PSUs and maybe a dead computer. It will be an interesting day. Even if the 850w works, I will probably upgrade in the somewhat near future anyway so I can take advantage of the rumored overclocking headroom that these will have.

I'm disappointed that I totally misjudged future power requirements. I got my 1000w PSU years ago because I ran Quad-Crossfire and then Triple-SLI. Since both of those technologies are essentially dead now, I figured that I would not need more than 850w just for a single videocard... But I don't regret getting the SuperFlower. I was able to combine several coupons and get it for like $60, probably one of the best deals I've ever got on anything, as that is almost 1/3rd MSRP.
 
GotNoRice said:
Unless benchmarks are a huge disappointment, I plan to buy a 4090 on the 12th. I'm going to find out the hard way if my Superflower 850w Leadex III Gold will be able to power my 5900X and a 4090. The PSU is less than a year old and got good reviews. If that doesn't work, I still have my previous 1000w PSU from 2007 that was still working fine when I removed it last year. Best-case scenario, the 850w works great. Worst-case scenario, I end up with 2 dead PSUs and maybe a dead computer. It will be an interesting day. Even if the 850w works, I will probably upgrade in the somewhat near future anyway so I can take advantage of the rumored overclocking headroom that these will have.

I'm disappointed that I totally misjudged future power requirements. I got my 1000w PSU years ago because I ran Quad-Crossfire and then Triple-SLI. Since both of those technologies are essentially dead now, I figured that I would not need more than 850w just for a single videocard... But I don't regret getting the SuperFlower. I was able to combine several coupons and get it for like $60, probably one of the best deals I've ever got on anything, as that is almost 1/3rd MSRP.
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You’ll be fine. With a quality PSU it’s a different story. Moore’s Law is Dead said power delivery is a lot smoother on 4090 versus 3090 Ti (less spikes).

I ran a 3090 FE and 5800X 24x7 mining on a 650W Seasonic. Never a hiccup.
 
sk3tch said:
You’ll be fine. With a quality PSU it’s a different story. Moore’s Law is Dead said power delivery is a lot smoother on 4090 versus 3090 Ti (less spikes).

I ran a 3090 FE and 5800X 24x7 mining on a 650W Seasonic. Never a hiccup.
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Corsair support told me that I can’t use the 4x8-pin adapter that it comes with with my AX1200 (I don’t think this a correct). They do make and adapter cable but it isn’t compatible with the AX1200. My case can only fit the FE or the AIO. I might just end up waiting until Seasonic ATX 3.0 comes out and possibly either replacing my Corsair Air 540 (man I love that case) with a Lian Li case.
 
madpistol said:
We will see. I'm going to try and run it on my current EVGA 750-watt G2. It will have to share the power with a 5800x3D, so as long as it stays within the 450-500 watt envelope, it should never exceed 750-watts... hopefully.
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For the 4090, I'm still going to use my Seasonic Prime Titanium 750W PSU until I get my hands on a good 1kW ATX 3.0/PCIE5.0 PSU later this year. I've had no issues with it on my 3080 Ti, not even the protection circuit tripping with transient spikes if any.

I'm planning to under volt the 4090 and set the power limit to about 350W in the meantime until I get the new PSU.
 
talon95 said:
It has been in stock briefly. I have one on the way.
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I have the Corsair cable in hand. It does 3 +12v and 3 main ground wires from each PSU side 8pin, then uses the 4th ground on each 8pin on a thin wire to the sense pins on the 12VHPWR side to signal it as 600w. The 4th +12v pin on each PSU side 8pin isn't used. The cable is 700mm long.
 
Zorachus said:
I hear you all, I understand, it's a hobby and fun to have the latest and greatest. My beef really isn't the pricing as much, that's secondary actually. The thing I find ridiculously stupid, is just the GIGANTIC size of the 4090, it's literally the size of the X-Box or PS5 console, and the the power draw and heat it produces, requiring 1200w PSUs now. Ugh, come on that's just silly.
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If anything, 4090 is not big enough. Bigger is always better: we learned this with Tonka trucks in the sandbox.

But the good news is you are not required to buy the absolute most top end product. A 4090 is a completely optional purchase - a point somehow lost in all the fake-outrage flailing and grievance brigading.
 
Cancelled my order as I am not feeling the card. Will wait until I see actual reviews.

Also you may want to check if the power cable included is 3 pin or 4 pin. Some idiots are adding 3 pin cables to these cards like Zotac and MSI Trio.
 
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KickAssCop said:
Cancelled my order as I am not feeling the card. Will wait until I see actual reviews.
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Good move, I think. There are just too many data points this round that are negative outliers to make these attractive: price, size, power, proximity to RDNA 3, virtually no games that need these, EVGA dropping out (little ROI in mining, if that matters to you). It would be one thing if it was just the price that was bananas outlandish, but it's a convolution of things, supported by the fact that stock likely won't be an issue (you'll still be able to get one next month even if reviews are good), that's restraining me from even entertaining one of these.

For what it's worth, this is the first time in 25 years I won't be buying a card on launch (even though I'm at a point where it would be least financially impactful, and I'm playing more games nowadays).
 
DPI said:
If anything, 4090 is not big enough. Bigger is always better: we learned this with Tonka trucks in the sandbox.

But the good news is you are not required to buy the absolute most top end product. A 4090 is a completely optional purchase - a point somehow lost in all the fake-outrage flailing and grievance brigading.
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I think it’s because the 4080 16G isn’t out yet- people go goofy for the first one to release.
 
So the 4090 is really a 4080, the 4080 12GB is really a 4070? Geez, shame on Nvidia marketing guys...
 
magda said:
So the 4090 is really a 4080, the 4080 12GB is really a 4070? Geez, shame on Nvidia marketing guys...
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lol. this again? it has been going on since the GTX 680.

If the performance they're claiming is true - memory bus, etc. has no bearing if it is truly that big of a leap in performance. If you buy based on memory bus...then you're in a whole different league.
 
sk3tch said:
lol. this again? it has been going on since the GTX 680.

If the performance they're claiming is true - memory bus, etc. has no bearing if it is truly that big of a leap in performance. If you buy based on memory bus...then you're in a whole different league.
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It's all about the performance / $.
 
The pricing difference between cards had me thinking;

Back on the 3090 and 3080 launch in September 2020, the RTX-3090 was $1500 and the RTX-3080 was $700;
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/n...ices-and-release-dates-detailed/1100-6481673/

So a double price jump 100% more money to go from the 3080 to the 3090, but the actual performance difference was minimal, like 15% to 20%. I always scratched my head on that one, why was the 3090 literally double the price of the 3080, but only 15% or so better performer, seemed like a horrible deal.

But now it seems a lot different ( still no legit benchmarks yet ) but the RTX-4090 is $1600 and the RTX-4080 is $1200, so the pricing difference is only like 1/3rd more to upgrade from the 80 to the 90 this series.

Don't know what my point is, but the pricing difference to performance difference is probably a lot closer now
 
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