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Will see but yes the article is calling the Lower range Xeon-Ws line HEDT.
Thing is - that matches TR non-pro in terms of specs (Give or take a nudge on core count and cache, not looking all that up). 64 PCIE lanes is the same as the rest of the HEDT lines have been - and just what I'm looking for, at least.
yeah, i saw something about TR 5995WX being 7K. Not sure the truth of it but if it is then wow they are getting cocky with prices.
I dont think thats how it works. X299 was Xeon W 2100 and 2200 Series cpus with unlocked multis. You can even Compare them to their Xeon Bronze and Silver counterparts and the cache is the same. X99 and X79 are the same way.
That's why we want OCable HEDT. Stock clockspeeds are just where it comes from the factory, crank up the cooling power and all the cores
.Lol. Entire AD environment…. -looks at his office- heh.
Lots of people from the StarWars universe have AD accounts in my environment
Is it? The total platform cost will be twice as high and push the enthusiast crowd that would have bought at TR3000 cost (or slightly higher) to be priced out to the point that the "select MBs" market will probably be...2: One from Asus, one from Gigabyte, not unlike Intel's 3175X. Is the relative gain over TR3000 really worth that?
I run most of a datacenter environment on mine, with 4 different HEDT systems here
HEDT has been Xeon parts under a different name for a while. The separating factor wasnt the branding, it was overclocking.
They're blending the lines a bit on this next release, or supposedly were - some that are full on Xeons, and some that are slightly cut down HEDT - just all under the Xeon brand.
Kind of depends on the ecosystem that we'll get with it. The X parts are supposed to be unlocked which will allow for those with big enough coolers* to run fast and hot the way it was meant to be. The base clocks are certainly lower than I was expecting for the core count and process changes vs, say, my 10980XE, but I'd expect true all-core capabilities to be at least 1-1.5 GHz higher for AVX loads and higher than that for non-AVX. But again, only if you can cool the beast.
That will also depend on motherboards we get (enthusiast or just basic workstation boards), cooler support (other than basic ones), etc. Is it all like the Threadripper Pros, where you get workstation boards and nothing else, or something like the Dominus Extreme where you get a consumer focused board that handles a Xeon-W chip?
I doubt it will be required, but rather recommended considering the target demographic. These are going to be Worsktation™ CPUs, not HEDT. So Intel is trying to make those potential clients feel safe and warm and fuzzy. "EPIC GAMER OVERCLOCKING" is not warm and fuzzy, even though a lot of these chips are actually unlocked for overclocking.
As all AMD CCDs are the same inside, in theory you could run that beast at 7950X clocks if the silicon is part of the best binning, or at least something around a 4GHz all core. But at that point, you're going well beyond "waterblock" and closer to "liquid nitrogen loop and hope that the board VRMs and cables don't melt" levels of power. Kind of like those insane boards designed to OC the 3175X.
Intel recently announced something like ECC 8000mts dimms. I'll see if I can find the article.
I read that one, it's also at TH. Nifty tech that kind of sounds similar to what the initial 32GB dual-dimm-on-one-module did, but it requires cpu support with SPR unknown. Either way, need that sexy unlocked ecc memory controller capability.
Those 3400s are a nice bit of kit, aren't they? Personally, I'm getting juicy over the 2475X or 2495X with cost being a deciding factor. I'm sure there's quite a premium for a 3400 over a 2400.
I think it will be 8 dimm slots, and the IMC will either work as 4ch 2dpC or 8ch 1dpC depending. I highly doubt there will be overclocking boards with 16 dimm slots.
Dead tech. Intel killed it.
Yeah, I was a sad panda when I read thr news. It is interesting that the column is still present in the SKU charts. I've been seeing dimms show up on ebay for reasonable prices, but it doesn't look like they are supported on X299. Since you're Mr enterprise access guy, have you encountered any info on that? The sticks are still a little too high in cost to buy one just for the lulz of probably not working.
I have a @#$#@ ton of the things - they only work in C-chipset boards (C421/etc), sadly - and given that X299 tops at 256G, that kinda makes sense (Optane DIMM tend to be on the big side). Good part of the lab has Optane PMEM as the majority of the ram capacity, tbh. No idea for sapphire rapids, and my contacts can't say, but it definitely wouldn't have been a priority that I can see - at least for consumer or prosumer kit.
Intel's desktop chips should support ECC. Making you buy a Xeon for a stability feature is brain-damaged.