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Miners don't want to buy gimped cards this is true. But the real problem is scalpers buying out the cards and the miners are the ones who are willing to pay the higher price for them.
The whole mining run up set the price floor for GPU value, the bots and scalpers are the ones benefitting from that price floor. A quick trip to Reddit ethereum mining sub will show that there are miners providing demand for GPUs beyond a simple gaming need, so there’s that. It’s a perfect storm. Normally the scalpers and bots rule early in the product launches, we saw that with Turing, but that usually subsides after a month or two and the people who fancy shiny stuff get their demand filled. But mining demand has kept the bots and scalpers in business for the last 6+ months.
Do mining use tensor-RTX hardware significantly ?
It does not, Ethereum and basically, all the GPU-based coins are 32-bit calculations, so the tensor cores do absolutely nothing. I am sure NV is floating around the idea of CMP cards based on an evolved version of the 10 series on a new process with HBM2 memory. Those would be absolute beasts for GPU-based coins, the real question is how much longer coins are going to be GPU-based. But when Ethereum finally does transition off, I am sure another 3 coins will magically appear to take its place.
Pump and dump. Rinse and repeat.
If you can't afford a gaming card buy a cheaper one, a gaming gpu is not an investment. Unless you actually use it for work, you know real work, not generating funny money in your basement.
It's more like Nissan gimping the GTR when it knows you're on a public road instead of a track using GPS location.
I would imagine virtually everyone that defend the crypto limitation are also non miner (or very casual and would have prefered a lower entry price without mining afterward).
It is almost impossible that it does not end up being in average in the last 12 year's a lower price if you diminish the demand (specially a demand that is ready to pay a fortune for a card, because they calculate how much crypto money they can do with it). I am not sure if it is possible to know the impact that would have over time, but it sound almost impossible for it to not lower it.
What sites do you recommend I block first? I, uh, need to update my pfsense blacklist.
Not quite, NVidia and AMD already segment their cards based on FP64 performance, they both artificially gimp their consumer cards on this while leaving it open for their work station cards. Product segmentation already exists across their stacks to artificially limit a whole crapload of metrics to separate their professional and consumer products. This is not even a remotely new approach
I think cryptocurrencies are the biggest bullshit around and doing more than their part in destroying the planet, but imposing arbitrary software limits on hardware is not the way.
One of many no, I remember in the 90s making mt computer think my ti 4200 card was a quadro for 3dsmax with some bios-driver trick, isn't a lot of functionality bared at a driver level and not at the silicon level ?
There is enough money in Crypto that this will ultimately get worked around in some driver hack down the road fast enough, I give it a month, 2 tops. It's basically hardware DRM, it will detur the casual miner but the hardcore operations will be around this in no time. NVidia knows this so the biggest question I have is now is NVidia incentivizing their CMP cards to the big operations who order in the 10's of thousands because that is who those are marketed too.