PG32UQX - ASUS 32" 4K 144 Hz HDR1400 G-Sync Ultimate

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DarkSideA8 said:
I need to get the kids out of school - then I can be that guy. Actually, Cinci is closer.
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You know what was funny. I get to the Duluth Microcenter, park, go in, immediately have the greeter up my ass, hand him my paperwork....all the while I am expecting them to tell me its not in stock, was a clerical error, etc, etc....he walks me over to the internet order checkout, where the 12 year old cashier boy with crackling pre-pubescent voice takes the paperwork and goes to the back to fetch the monitor......they are back there rummaging for a good five minutes, I can hear him talking to another employee....more rummaging noise.....and I am thinking of course here we fucking go.....but NOPE.....they both pop out carrying it together!

And as he is ringing it up, I am thinking man I hope my CC doesn't fuck me over here cause I just bought a LG 77 C1 + 7.1 surround sound and last thing I need is to get hit with CC freeze over non-typical purchases...especially after that drive......so my mind is turning that over.....and the cashier boy says to me.

"Sir would you like to buy the product protection plan?"

Me, NO.

"But sir, I highly recommend the protection plan. Let me tell you sir, I have THIS EXACT monitor right here *pats PG32UQX box* for the last six months and last week its power pack went out and I was so thankful that I had the protection plan. You would be wise to add that plan sir, that is all I am saying!"

ME, Are you Dah JESUS?

"The Jesus sir?

ME, Yes DAH YEEZUSSS, ARE YOU HIM?

"Uhhhh...*looking very confused and uncomfortable* uhhhhh no sir....

ME: Ok then...well do you work for Asus?'

"Uhhhh no sir"

ME....Well than that is FRICKIN AMAZING that you have had this exact monitor for SIX MONTHS since its a brand new model just released yesterday! So unless your Dah YEzzus and God Beamed it down to you, or asus let ya test drive it...I would say your full of shit!

Cashier boy, gulps hard and proceeded to fishing checking me out without any hiccups!

I wish he was dahhhh YEEEBUZZZ :-(
 
I feel sorry for them because they get commission from protection plans. But I still don't buy them lol.
 
Vega said:
I feel sorry for them because they get commission from protection plans. But I still don't buy them lol.
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SoCali said:
Reigning in brightness to 1000nits on this display isn't what I'd call progress. It's been 3 years since it's 27 inch predecessors launched and releasing the same thing but @ 32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.

1400nits is a nice marketing bullet point where as if it was faster in terms of pixel response, it would have gone completely unotticed.

I dunno if I'm the only one looking at it this way but this and the PG27UQ before it are basically the only displays pushing the PC monitor market forward.
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The monitor market is all about tiny, iterative steps. If I look at my 7 years old PG278Q, the only things that have changed is that now 1440p IPS panels offer similar performance, including the rubbish under 1000:1 contrast ratios to have similar pixel response times.

4K displays have long been in a place where manufacturers have adamantly ignored the larger than 27" size high refresh rate market. So we are eager to grab at any scraps in that space.

I do agree that 1400 nits is a nice marketing bullet point, shame that it comes at high expense in other areas to reach that.
 
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So if a game or movie is made for 1000 nits peak brightness, what does this monitor do with it's extra brightness capability? Does it not use it at all or does it overbrighten the entire picture? Something like making 1600 nits the new 1000 and working down from there. I know that's what some Samsung TVs used to do with their extra brightness levels.
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Peak brightness for games and movies are different between titles, but I believe I've seen info on Blu-ray.com that most movies are mastered for 4000 nits. The brightness curve is adjusted based on your player and display capabilities, which is why it's important to properly calibrate your TV, output device and the brightness in games.
 
Armenius said:
Peak brightness for games and movies are different between titles, but I believe I've seen info on Blu-ray.com that most movies are mastered for 4000 nits. The brightness curve is adjusted based on your player and display capabilities, which is why it's important to properly calibrate your TV, output device and the brightness in games.
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Right. So again what does this monitor do for 1000 nits content lol. What "adjustment" is being made?
 
MistaSparkul said:
Right. So again what does this monitor do for 1000 nits content lol. What "adjustment" is being made?
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I doubt it makes any adjustment, it would just show the 1000 nit content at approx 1000 nit as intended. No reason for it to do much different
 
Ok good to know. I was just wondering if it would use it's extra brightness capability to overbrighten the whole picure like this Samsung Q90R does. It basically turns 1000 nits into 1600 and brightens everything else down the range as well.
 

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Ok good to know. I was just wondering if it would use it's extra brightness capability to overbrighten the whole picure like this Samsung Q90R does. It basically turns 1000 nits into 1600 and brightens everything else down the range as well.
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Is that really from a source that is mastered for 1000 nits, though? Where is the screenshot from?

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Never mind, I found out. He talks about the dynamic mapping that the TV does and apparently it can't be disabled? Most displays shouldn't be doing that, or at least have the option in how you want HDR to behave.

 
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Armenius said:
Is that really from a source that is mastered for 1000 nits, though? Where is the screenshot from?

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Never mind, I found out. He talks about the dynamic mapping that the TV does and apparently it can't be disabled? Most displays shouldn't be doing that, or at least have the option in how you want HDR to behave.

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Yeah this was on like a 2018 Samsung TV and they've improved since then. Pretty sure the Asus isn't gonna do the same thing, or at least offer the option to enable/disable such a feature.
 
kalston said:
? 10 bit works fine on the LG and literally every test shows people preferring HDR on OLED TVs right now. I don't care what Mini-LED will be capable of in the future, we are talking about what exists and is available as of today. And you act like OLED can't be improved which is false. It's possible that eventually we will have a better alternative without the limited lifespan of the pixels (but there might still be other serious drawbacks and I doubt OLED will die anytime soon) but again, this does not matter one bit if you want a display right now because OLED is where it's at and that is factual.

The LG OLED TVs are the closest we've had to a perfect all-around display in years (for both PCs and consoles, doesn't matter). I'm sorry you can't accept that but you're not gonna change the reality. You can have your personal preferences and find reasons to to pick another display, that's okay. But misinformation is not.

edit: oh waw, fresh user with one single post. Mmmh
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I'm not talking about the future. I'm talking about now.

OLED is budget technology when it comes to HDR, and no amount of misinformation from you is going to change that. If you are looking for a good HDR experience and you bought something with an OLED panel, I feel sorry for you but you essentially wasted your money.
 
kasakka said:
The reason why Apple uses Mini-LED is really more about the lack of OLED panels in the sizes of an iPad Pro or XDR display. The first 32" OLED came out this year and it's not a HDR powerhouse at all. Even the XDR isn't particularly great at HDR in the first place with its 576 zones, that's not going to be reference grade no matter how Apple markets it. It's still going to be decent at HDR but its benefits are almost entirely in its high resolution.

You have clearly never used an OLED TV as a monitor. I've used my LG CX 48" as a desktop display for over 10 months now. No burn-in, works just fine with 1m viewing distance. Is it ideal, would I prefer if it was smaller? Absolutely. At around 38-40" but nobody makes that. Or alternatively 48-50" with 8K res, which again does not exist.

We don't live in an ideal world so it's by far the best overall compromise in the "larger than 27", high refresh rate 4K display" category. And I can buy probably around 3 of them for the price of one PG32UQX. That's why they keep getting recommended.
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Not true. If there are iPhone sized OLED panels, there are iPad Pro (and Pro Display XDR) sized OLED panels. Apple made the intentional decision to not use that technology in any of their high-end products, because Apple markets a great HDR experience, and thus would hurt their brand if they went with OLED.

The cold slap of reality is that contrast is a function of brightness, and that OLED will NEVER be capable of a true HDR experience like Mini-LED technology is, because it is limited by a (very low) brightness ceiling. Mini-LED on the other hand can improve local dimming and reduce black levels simply by increasing the amount of zones. Your sunk cost (no offense) over how much you spent on your now dated OLED TV has no place in this discussion, and frankly it is dragging the quality of discussion down in that people will come into future-facing threads on next-gen technology to just make they still "feel relevant". Let technology be.

This is not the OLED TV thread.
 
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l88bastard said:
OK...OK...................OK.........BREAKING NEWS ROFL

I just played some Halo 3 in HDR and HOLY SHIT INCREDIBLE LOL

Alright, so here is the deal....this thing and its 1600 nits is to Bright & Light games as to what OLED is to Dark / High contrast games.
Its literally the opposite of the oled.....Also 32" doesn't make me motion sick like the larger 48" does....even 5 feet away the oled makes me dizzy on high spinny FPS games like Halo.

So I am torn....I'm really torn here haha. If you buy this thing, don't go into it expecting to play any dark spacey games.....but for light, bright, high SFX POPPY Color games like BFV, CP77, Halo3...it is incredible.
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Indeed. I'm pretty set on it.

It it is the best HDR experience on the planet right now. I've used those OLED TVs and even looking past how dumb it is to recommend a TV as a PC monitor (terrible pixel density, no gsync ultimate, etc), frankly they're not even in the same universe. The wow factor is completely missing. I will also add that even in absolute worst case scenarios, the blooming is greatly exaggerated in pictures, and it is still better than the alternatives simply due to the high range you're seeing.
 
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SoCali said:
People seem to be buying them up even at scalped prices. The sold from Amazon disappeared within 5 minutes of my order being placed so seems to either be very limited quantity or high demand.

If this thing was slightly faster in terms of pixel response I imagine it's a monitor one can keep for 3-5 years.
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The pixel response time is far beyond the threshold where the difference matters. You're not a professional gamer, and even for professional gamers, this is splitting hairs over something that doesn't help even them at this level.
 
AgentAnon said:
Not true. If there are iPhone sized OLED panels, there are iPad Pro (and Pro Display XDR) sized OLED panels. Apple made the intentional decision to not use that technology in any of their high-end products, because Apple markets a great HDR experience, and thus would hurt their brand if they went with OLED.

The cold slap of reality is that contrast is a function of brightness, and that OLED will NEVER be capable of a true HDR experience like Mini-LED technology is, because it is limited by a (very low) brightness ceiling. Mini-LED on the other hand can improve local dimming and reduce black levels simply by increasing the amount of zones. Your sunk cost (no offense) over how much you spent on your now dated OLED TV has no place in this discussion, and frankly it is dragging the quality of discussion down in that people will come into future-facing threads on next-gen technology to just make they still "feel relevant". Let technology be.

This is not the OLED TV thread.
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I have spent less on my two OLED TVs than what the PG32UQX costs.

OLED has a lot of other benefits than just its per pixel local dimming. Infinite contrast ratio for SDR content, near instant pixel response times, excellent viewing angles. Nobody really asked for excellent HDR in an iPad and there's already several reports of people not being happy with the blooming of mini-LED. OLED would have been a better overall choice for the iPad but perhaps there is not a suitable OLED panel at the size needed or Apple fear that an iPad would be more susceptible to burn-in compared to phones that are turned on/off more often.

I get that mini-LED has its benefits too but it is still married to the same old LCD tech which has a lot of drawbacks in itself as clearly evident in the display discussed. None of this tech is anywhere even close to perfect so I will take the tech with the least compromises and for my uses, that is OLED. Even with potential for burn-in and only being available in large sizes.
 
AgentAnon said:
Indeed. I'm pretty set on it.

It it is the best HDR experience on the planet right now. I've used those OLED TVs and even looking past how dumb it is to recommend a TV as a PC monitor (terrible pixel density, no gsync ultimate, etc), frankly they're not even in the same universe. The wow factor is completely missing. I will also add that even in absolute worst case scenarios, the blooming is greatly exaggerated in pictures, and it is still better than the alternatives simply due to the high range you're seeing.
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No, the blooming is pretty terrible in things like RD2's night sky and the mouse cursor over light grey backgrounds (with fald on) needs to be addressed with some sort of update from Asus. In some instances the haloing effect is worse on the PG32 panel vs the PG27, which I think is because its Mini-leds are way more intense than the older 27 models.

Originally this was going to be a deal breaker for me, but after coming to the rationalization that every tech is limited and some panel tech is better for some things (Oled and dark spacey games) and IPS/Fald tech is better for HDR & non-burn in use......Well lets just say I have no regrets making the 1022 drive to get this baby!

AgentAnon said:
The pixel response time is far beyond the threshold where the difference matters. You're not a professional gamer, and even for professional gamers, this is splitting hairs over something that doesn't help even them at this level.
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I have found this to be true. I love gaming on this PG32UQX! Its amazing being able to look great distances in games like PUBG and make out detail that lesser displays are incapable of....even the 48cx doesnt have the pixel density to compete in this arena.

kasakka said:
I have spent less on my two OLED TVs than what the PG32UQX costs.

OLED has a lot of other benefits than just its per pixel local dimming. Infinite contrast ratio for SDR content, near instant pixel response times, excellent viewing angles. Nobody really asked for excellent HDR in an iPad and there's already several reports of people not being happy with the blooming of mini-LED. OLED would have been a better overall choice for the iPad but perhaps there is not a suitable OLED panel at the size needed or Apple fear that an iPad would be more susceptible to burn-in compared to phones that are turned on/off more often.

I get that mini-LED has its benefits too but it is still married to the same old LCD tech which has a lot of drawbacks in itself as clearly evident in the display discussed. None of this tech is anywhere even close to perfect so I will take the tech with the least compromises and for my uses, that is OLED. Even with potential for burn-in and only being available in large sizes.
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OLEDs are amazing.....but they are not a substitute for what the PG32UQX does and does well. This one followed me home yesterday....I think I am gonna need a hand getting it up on the living room break stand lol
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I enjoyed the TFT review. Confirms that this is a 4k 32 HDR panel for PCs that you can game on with excellent color accuracy at 120hz (and above). Not a panel aimed at the 24" 1080p /360hz crowd, at all. But for the cinematic gaming experience, likely to be among the best on the market (if not the best overall) - see their slight quibble / comparison to the OLED 32.

The part I found most interesting was the explication of the FALD / GSync relationship. It will be something to watch out for at the next CES to see if Nvidia continues to partner with Asus / AUO + any others to continue to push FALD development.

It's also the area that is giving me the most pause as I look for my new panel; given that I won't pay $3k for a monitor, HDR ability is looking to be the least of my concerns moving forward this year.

It also brings me to readress my defense of the panel from the poster above who suggested that they should have focused on HDR @ 1000 nits if doing so could have improved response times. My reading this article does not suggest that brightness is related to responsiveness, but TFT does suggest that the HDR can seem overdone. "...sometimes we felt this was perhaps a little over the top and created a slightly unrealistic appearance..."

This makes me wonder whether they focused on the numbers and tech ability rather than what would look best at the desktop distance and use-case
 
Armenius said:
Looks like response times are fine up to 120 Hz without introducing overshoot, and the input lag is very good. 144 Hz is where you see issues.
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Yeah this is what I said a few pages back. For most with a 3080/3090 achieving 80-100FPS, it's perfectly fine and only really falls apart at 144hz.
 
DarkSideA8 said:
I enjoyed the TFT review. Confirms that this is a 4k 32 HDR panel for PCs that you can game on with excellent color accuracy at 120hz (and above). Not a panel aimed at the 24" 1080p /360hz crowd, at all. But for the cinematic gaming experience, likely to be among the best on the market (if not the best overall) - see their slight quibble / comparison to the OLED 32.

The part I found most interesting was the explication of the FALD / GSync relationship. It will be something to watch out for at the next CES to see if Nvidia continues to partner with Asus / AUO + any others to continue to push FALD development.

It's also the area that is giving me the most pause as I look for my new panel; given that I won't pay $3k for a monitor, HDR ability is looking to be the least of my concerns moving forward this year.

It also brings me to readress my defense of the panel from the poster above who suggested that they should have focused on HDR @ 1000 nits if doing so could have improved response times. My reading this article does not suggest that brightness is related to responsiveness, but TFT does suggest that the HDR can seem overdone. "...sometimes we felt this was perhaps a little over the top and created a slightly unrealistic appearance..."

This makes me wonder whether they focused on the numbers and tech ability rather than what would look best at the desktop distance and use-case
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I actually like that the HDR is overdone.. I also like slightly over saturated colours that pop in my games. If I want real world colour accuracy I'll step out into the real world.

I've got one of these babies in my trunk right now.
 
hello everyone, this is my first post here
I've been waiting for this monitor for 3 years, and finally the wait seems over

i currently have an acer x27p and i am starting to doubt that 3k is worth the upgrade to the pg32uqx

From what i understand, compared to my current monitor the only difference would be the 5 inches more, and probably this does not justify the expense, yet i am literally tired of having these 27", which i find very small and little immersive from the point of view of the game

I had a cx 55 and I resold it, because for work I have to use static windows and then the risk of burn would be too high, and frankly I find better the x27p in hdr than the oled

the x27p gave me a greater WOW effect than an oled, as far as hdr gaming material is concerned

So at this point I follow with interest the development of this 3d, and hope for a price drop

One question that comes to me, the samsung QN95A, should have roughly the same specs as the pg32uqx, minus a native gsync mod, or am I wrong?
In your opinion, can the QN95A in terms of picture quality compare to the pg32uqx?
 
penny80 said:
hello everyone, this is my first post here
I've been waiting for this monitor for 3 years, and finally the wait seems over

i currently have an acer x27p and i am starting to doubt that 3k is worth the upgrade to the pg32uqx

From what i understand, compared to my current monitor the only difference would be the 5 inches more, and probably this does not justify the expense, yet i am literally tired of having these 27", which i find very small and little immersive from the point of view of the game

I had a cx 55 and I resold it, because for work I have to use static windows and then the risk of burn would be too high, and frankly I find better the x27p in hdr than the oled

the x27p gave me a greater WOW effect than an oled, as far as hdr gaming material is concerned

So at this point I follow with interest the development of this 3d, and hope for a price drop

One question that comes to me, the samsung QN95A, should have roughly the same specs as the pg32uqx, minus a native gsync mod, or am I wrong?
In your opinion, can the QN95A in terms of picture quality compare to the pg32uqx?
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No because Samsungs in Game Mode completely neuter the local dimming performance. The Asus with it's gsync module ensures that the local dimming is good without a crapton of input lag.




Why do you think Linus avoided playing any games on it and only tested it against OLED using a movie with the Samsung in a picture mode preset where the local dimming can do the best job? Lol.




FALD specs mean nothing if it cannot be controlled properly.
 
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MistaSparkul said:
No because Samsungs in Game Mode completely neuter the local dimming performance. The Asus with it's gsync module ensures that the local dimming is good without a crapton of input lag.




Why do you think Linus avoided playing any games on it and only tested it against OLED using a movie with the Samsung in a picture mode preset where the local dimming can do the best job? Lol.



FALD specs mean nothing if it cannot be controlled properly.
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Ok ty for the details in the reply, you give me a good help to avoid the Qn95 for gaming purpose
 
DarkSideA8 said:
penny80 Literally the only real drawback is price. Every other criticism of the monitor is just a quibble
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Well that's the thing. If it's gonna cost that much then most of us want it to be perfect. You may think it's just quibbles but come on it's $3k here. I'm still in for one if a JOLED 32" ends up costing the same or more since that panel is only capable of like 500 nits for HDR which is very meh.
 
I know I'm going to sound insane here but $3K for a display in a world of $2000 GPU's is starting to seem "ok" especially considering how much life you can get out of it (3-5 years).
 
SoCali said:
I know I'm going to sound insane here but $3K for a display in a world of $2000 GPU's is starting to seem "ok" especially considering how much life you can get out of it (3-5 years).
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You are not insane. I believe all of us have had to readdress the definition of 'appropriate cost' in this time. Hopefully things settle again in the near future.
 
After using this display for a day, my feelings are incredibly mixed. It's like a massively flawed beauty. Like a gorgeous 10 woman who has a permanent yeast infection and halitosis. Like an old Ferrari; slow and uncomfortable, but sexy and rare.
 
So for the folks that have gotten their hands on this holy grail of monitors already... the #1 question... how is the fan noise? Bonus points if you can compare it to the PG35VQ.
Given the previously rumored $3,600 price tag for this thing, 3 grand flat sounds like an absolute steal in comparison (as vomit inducing as that may sound). But some of the early "reviews" mentioned the fan, and that would be an absolute deal breaker if it's that loud. The PG35VQ is already hella loud and an unwelcomed compromise.
 
CaptainClueless said:
So for the folks that have gotten their hands on this holy grail of monitors already... the #1 question... how is the fan noise? Bonus points if you can compare it to the PG35VQ.
Given the previously rumored $3,600 price tag for this thing, 3 grand flat sounds like an absolute steal in comparison (as vomit inducing as that may sound). But some of the early "reviews" mentioned the fan, and that would be an absolute deal breaker if it's that loud. The PG35VQ is already hella loud and an unwelcomed compromise.
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There is a post in reddit comparing the PG32UQX with PG35VQ
 
Vega said:
After using this display for a day, my feelings are incredibly mixed. It's like a massively flawed beauty. Like a gorgeous 10 woman who has a permanent yeast infection and halitosis. Like an old Ferrari; slow and uncomfortable, but sexy and rare.
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Hello Vega, from wich monitor you upgrade? Can you give to us a sort of review of the PG32UQX? Congratz for the new monitor
 
CaptainClueless said:
Are you talking about this joke of a post?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidem...qx_vs_pg35vq_hdr_peformance_pg32uqx_mini_led/

He admits he has a loud computer and pulls the usual "if you wear headphones while you game you will never notice it" cop out...

The bloom does look quite bad in those pictures... especially in a terrible brightly lit room.
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Yes that post, i pay attention only to the picture quality details, and blooming. Why is a joke post? Sorry i probably missread somethings?
 
SoCali said:
I know I'm going to sound insane here but $3K for a display in a world of $2000 GPU's is starting to seem "ok" especially considering how much life you can get out of it (3-5 years).
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Others may disagree, but you sound insane. No way a $3000 monitor is OK in my book. I haven't drunk that coolaid yet. At that price, it's literally a rich man's game. Can I afford it, yes, will I buy it at it's price point, HELL NO!
 
celwin said:
Others may disagree, but you sound insane. No way a $3000 monitor is OK in my book. I haven't drunk that coolaid yet. At that price, it's literally a rich man's game. Can I afford it, yes, will I buy it at it's price point, HELL NO!
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I dunno how this works when the GPU's required to comfortably drive the display are approaching $2000 from the only accessible sources (shuffle bundles, eBay, scalpers).

I also don't understand how some think dropping $2-3k on a piece of hardware means you've instantly forfeited that amount. PG27UQ's still sell for $1000 used 3 years later.
 
Vega said:
I actually like that the HDR is overdone.. I also like slightly over saturated colours that pop in my games. If I want real world colour accuracy I'll step out into the real world.

I've got one of these babies in my trunk right now.
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Vega said:
After using this display for a day, my feelings are incredibly mixed. It's like a massively flawed beauty. Like a gorgeous 10 woman who has a permanent yeast infection and halitosis. Like an old Ferrari; slow and uncomfortable, but sexy and rare.
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@l88bastard
@Vega

guys i need your help, i've been waiting 3 years for the pg32uqx and i'm absolutely undecided about what to do.
Never mind the money issue, let's put this aside for a moment

If right now, you should compulsorily KEEP one of the two between PG32UQX and Oled cx/c1
which of the two? answer dry of jet, and then if you can also put the considerations

I repeat not considering the money, only on image quality for gaming
 
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