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Just keep an eye on moore's law is dead. He has been dead on with every single AMD leak in the last year.
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Just keep an eye on moore's law is dead. He has been dead on with every single AMD leak in the last year.
the specs definitely suggest that... 3060 will probably be around 2070S/5700XT performance, and 6700XT will have the much higher clocks on top of that.According to YouTuber Moore's Law is Dead, the RX 6700 XT is expected to blow away the RTX 3060
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/forg...mds-radeon-rx-6700-xt-will-be-the-card-to-get
GPU | Cores/CU | Boost Clock GHz | Cores*Clock | Mem GB/s | Cache |
3090 | 10496 120% | 1.70 99% | 120% | 936 123% | NA |
3080 | 8704 100% | 1.71 100% | 100% | 760 100% | NA |
3070 | 5888 68% | 1.73 101% | 67% | 448 59% | NA |
3060Ti | 4864 56% | 1.67 98% | 55% | 448 59% | NA |
3060 | 3584 41% | 1.78 104% | 42.6% | 360 41% | NA |
6900XT | 80 111% | 2.250 100% | 111% | 512 100% | 128MB 100% |
6800XT | 72 100% | 2.250 100% | 100% | 512 100% | 128MB 100% |
6800 | 60 83% | 2.105 94% | 78% | 512 100% | 128MB 100% |
6700XT | 40 56% | 2.4? ~107% | ~60% | 384 75% | 96MB 75% |
If the rumored specs are correct I'm expecting the 6700XT to keep up with or beat the 3060Ti on rasterization after doing a few back of the napkin calculations. The 3080 and 6800XT are both set as 100% since they're pretty close to each other in benchmarks, plus we can't directly compare core/CU counts or clockspeed across architectures and AMD's Infinity Cache turns direct comparisons of memory bandwidth into semi-rubbish. So AMD card %s are relative to the 6800XT and NV card %s are relative to the 3080.
GPU Cores/CU Boost Clock GHz Cores*Clock Mem GB/s Cache 3090 10496 120% 1.70 99% 120% 936 123% NA 3080 8704 100% 1.71 100% 100% 760 100% NA 3070 5888 68% 1.73 101% 67% 448 59% NA 3060Ti 4864 56% 1.67 98% 55% 448 59% NA 3060 3584 41% 1.78 104% 42.6% 360 41% NA 6900XT 80 111% 2.250 100% 111% 512 100% 128MB 100% 6800XT 72 100% 2.250 100% 100% 512 100% 128MB 100% 6800 60 83% 2.105 94% 78% 512 100% 128MB 100% 6700XT 40 56% 2.4? ~107% ~60% 384 75% 96MB 75%
"AMD's mysterious Nashira Summit GPU has been spotted in Ashes of the Singularity database. A similarly named Nashira Point GPU has appeared some time ago on the USB-IF website, which was also a mysterious product in AMD's Radeon graphics processors lineup. The Nashira Summit and Nashira Point seem to be a part of the common Nashira GPU family, which is presumably a codename for a lower-end Navi 22 or Navi 23 GPU models. Today, we managed to get a Nashira Summit score in the Ashes of the Singularity database. The GPU has been put through a set of AotS benchmarks and we have the scores. Unfortunately, tests have been run using all-custom settings, so it is impossible to compare it to some other GPU as a reference. The test was probably performed by AMD or some AIB. So far it is impossible to distinct whatever this is a mobile or a desktop product as both mobile and desktop GPUs are tested in the same manner. It remains a question what the mysterious Nashira Summit GPU is, so we have to wait for more information to find out."
https://www.techpowerup.com/277717/...-spotted-in-ashes-of-the-singularity-database
Tesla to use Navi 23 class GPU in its cars. You can even play cyberpunk 2077 on it
Tesla has announced a new version of the Model S that not only features a completely redesigned interior and stalk-less steering wheel, but an infotainment center that boasts just as much graphics power as a PlayStation 5 (10.3 TFLOPS). According to promotional images and a tweet from CEO Elon Musk, the system is powerful enough to play modern games such as Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, which should be a great way to kill time while charging and idling in the parking lot.
https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/0...ay-cyberpunk-2077-reportedly-amd-gpu-powered/
Patrick Schur posted a diagram, which appears to confirm that Tesla will be using AMD Navi 23 GPU for its onboard entertainment and (possibly) navigation systems.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-nav...bp10NWez6bfgJWiI14v04O21WhHCgrxuJlj9VQ_XMnCXs
The newest rumors suggest that the XT cards will get 12gb vram, while the non XT ones will get 6:
RX 6700 XT 12gb
RX 6700 6gb
RX 6600 XT 12gb
RX 6600 6gb
This could make some sense if priced appropriately. The 6gb 6700 will need an attractive price vs the 3060 with double the memory though... Can't possibly go over $299.
https://videocardz.com/newz/powerco...b-and-rx-6700-6gb-graphics-card-appear-at-eec
I would wait until the cards and game is available to see how it performs. Too much guesswork beforehand. Might be a good title to finally have a feel for the RT capability of RNDA2 cards with a game designed for it.Well this is depressing:
AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Required for Ray-Tracing in Resident Evil Village
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-r...red-for-ray-tracing-in-resident-evil-village/
So what about people who paid scalpers prices of around a grand for a 6800 non-XT card?
And it seems the 6700XT isn't going to cut it for sure, so what is the point?
3 out the 5 models available at MC this morning are over $800 LOL. Other 2 are $420.
All releases had decent stock for launch. Afterwards they have a very slow trickle. Especially for AMD cards. Mine showing all showed out but 24 power color cards that were $820.Just got back 30 min ago from my local MC on the East Coast -- got there 7:21am EST, had a reference RX 6700 XT (from Sapphire) in my hands by 9:45am (for $479 USD). And there were guys behind me that got reference cards, too -- definitely not some paper launch.
Microcenter's QR check-in process officially started @ 7:30am, and my turn came up around 8am (I was in the 20s, in terms of list). They texted me at 9:36am; worked quite well (got breakfast @ the local McDonalds, a 2 min walk away, while I was waiting).
My local MC had Sapphire & AsRock for their 6700 XT reference providers; rest were all AIB customs, starting @ $779 USD.
There was one EVGA RTX 3070 up for grabs, but that went fast (well before it was my turn to get my card, from what I saw).
Given the short line, and relatively quick process, it looks like a lot of folks really bought into the mildly negative reviews on the RX 6700 XT.
Checking my local MC right now, they have only 1 reference card @ $479USD and 12 Powercolor Red Devils @ $819USD -- but I just talked on Discord w/a guy who was just there, and he says that there's only 1 Red Devil left; no other RX 6700 XTs whatsoever (website is probably updated slowly, as expected).All releases had decent stock for launch. Afterwards they have a very slow trickle. Especially for AMD cards. Mine showing all showed out but 24 power color cards that were $820.
It does update slowly.Checking my local MC right now, they have only 1 reference card @ $479USD and 12 Powercolor Red Devils @ $819USD -- but I just talked on Discord w/a guy who was just there, and he says that there's only 1 Red Devil left; no other RX 6700 XTs whatsoever (website is probably updated slowly, as expected).
all AIB customs, starting @ $779 USD.
LOL. Yeah, let me know where those at SEP are for sale a day after launch. SEP is an illusion and means NOTHING.but Amd is making them look like the budget brand with a $330 3060.
LOL. Yeah, let me know where those at SEP are for sale a day after launch. SEP is an illusion and means NOTHING.
And that has to do what with the SEP of 3060 cards that was the point of the discussion your quoted?The partner cards of 6700 XT are officially priced at equivalent of what the 2080 super used to sell (last year)
& performance is also in line with that
Effectively official price remains same as last year for same performance bracket
I am not sure about 3060And that has to do what with the SEP of 3060 cards that was the point of the discussion your quoted?
Nope. I think this might be the new norm til next generation cards come out. Even then we might not get a reset in the market. Mining craze has had fucking blew the demand even higher then it was.I am not sure about 3060
But regarding the 6700 XT, I think the market can settle to the official AIB price (~$800) within 1 quarter
So my observation is that in 3 months time we will be back to where we were 1 year ago in terms of both performance & price
Here, I just saved you hours of testing:My AMD.com order arrived today:
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I'll run it in my main rig for the next week or so and then switch back to the 3080. I'm curious how it will compare.
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I am guessing this is how AMD will position these cards:
RX 6700 XT 12gb vs RTX 3070 8gb
RX 6700 6gb vs RTX 3060ti 8gb
RX 6600 XT 12gb vs RTX 3060 12gb
RX 6600 6gb vs RTX 3050 6gb
I am expecting the 128 bit cards to be the 6500 seriesAs for the 6600 series, I would imagine 128 bit cards for those.
Having 2 192 bit cards is more than AMD has ever had already so very doubtful they will have 4. The 6700 is already a cut down 6700xt.I am expecting the 128 bit cards to be the 6500 series
Very suspicious of the 6700 6gb. Not sure if it is OEM only & not for retail sale
The 6600 cards will likely be cut down Navi 22
If that is the case then it makes sense for a 6600 XT 12gb & 6600 6gb